s2k vs type r @ wakefield

My mate and I are arguing over which will win?

stock vs stock.

compare any type r model to an 00 model s2k.

cheers.

Granted, the ratio of ITR's to S2000's is about 10:1 ; I've personally never seen an s2000 above the Type R's in the timing list at Wakie.

isn't there that race series on speedweek that has the answer to your question?

that red S2k rips the dc2R to bits and is in a different class as well.

they only run suspension and ecu.........and of course cage.

as close to stock as your going to get at proracer level.

mm... both true but neither lead me towards one =/

Bwahahahaha tripitaka

Not say you're wrong mate, just stating an observation. The two cars are in different classes tbh.

The S2000 is a top contender in A-stock.
The old ITR (better than the new ITR) does fairly well in D-Stock.

The determining factor would be that the FWD ITR could be driven at 101% & be ok. Whereas the RWD S2000 could be driven at a consistent 95%.

My bet is on the ITR, but I'm biased ;)

It is much easier to drive an ITR than an S2000.

Taking that into consideration, the ITR is as fast or even faster than an S2000 on some track like Wakefield.

Ultimately however, there is no doubt the S2000 can be quicker, provided it is in the hands of a competent driver. It takes a very good, professional level driver to extract the best out of it.

The ITR handles very well for a FWD, but the S2000 handles better. But the ITR is more predictable less the snap oversteer possible. People say S2000 is twitchy at the last 5%, simply because they don't know how to handle one. It tends to go from grip to no grip then grip then no grip again at the last 5% because its power is too peaky compared to other RWDs like a MX-5. This is not a minus. This is a plus. One has to have utmost confidence in knowing how to drive RWD and then trust the S2000 when the tail comes out slightly inorder to get the most out of it.


Unfortunately people who can handle it at the 100%-105% limit are very rare indeed!

i'll agree with omotesando.
while FWD are more predictable RWD cars can really be driven to a finer degree.
one main plus i find with RWD is that understeer can be corrected later in a corner with power, unlike FWD where the steering line has to be commited to much earlier.
as tsuchiya puts it: FWD requires early tuck in with heavy throttle.
also depending on the track, if there are longer straights i would lean further towards the S2k. from what i've witnessed/experienced the S2k has better topend acceleration

There is a review like this in a wheels or motor magazine. I cant find it as i have over 1000magazines though. I cant remember if it had both but im pretty sure it did. It had a type R integra and it was either an Nsx or s2000 and then also a motorbike and they did lap times and max speeds acheived on laps etc and it was quite interesting. Im pretty sure it was the s2000 and it beat the type r, if it was the nsx then that would be pretty obvious.

really though from all the reviews the s2000 is a 'fun' car, it handles but its not easy to make do so. Around any tight course with equal drivers i would place my money on a type r. Take em to daytona though and it'd be a different story.

at the end of the day the most important tool of both cars/or any car is between the steering wheel and the driver seat...

if u and your mate does have a type r and a s2000 then go wakies and have some fun..im sure u both wont be dissapointed ;)

id have to say the type R is easier to drive around wakefield than an s2000. I have taken my s2000 down to wakefield and i just do average times with it. The s2k is unforgiving around certain corners of the track if you dont pay attention. Once the rear end comes round its difficult to pull it back. The rear end if often twitchy and as mentioned if your a pro driver and can take advantage of this the s2k can be a beast around the track. Either way its a fun car to drive around the track. Different cars are suited better to different tracks.

Read the first post on this thread:

http://www.s2ki.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=165438

i have seen a good driver drive a totally stock s2k around wakefield at 1:13.1