HELP PLS ... B16 or B18?

Ok guys, dont know if this is the right place to post this but i'll give it a go anyways.. :thumbsup:

Ok I wanted to ask for peoples opinion pls....

My situation at the moment is that I want to do a conversion on my EG3.

My two options are B16a2 or a B18C. :honda:

I have the budget for either one.... but im stuck on making my my decision!?!

I only do daily driving and i dont really plan to mod hard out on the engine I do decide to put in.

So my question to you guys is, what would you do in my situation??

And please be straight up.,... not just say B18C because its faster..:eek:

No haters pls... just really want some feedback..

Thanks in advance! :wave:

B18c more torque for daily driving

yeh I know that... hahaha

i like the sounds of b16's but compared to my b18c majority of people here will say b18c.

search too. alotta ppl have asked the same thing, and in the same position as you..

anyways i'd go b18c. if u get the b16a, in time u'll want more power, and wanna get the b18c, thinking you should have got that first. b16a and b18c fine for both daily driving, your not driving some high performance turbo car or anything so just relax, just an EG. its what you want outta the car, since you said you know.

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yeh I know that... hahaha

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... then your decision shouldn't be that hard. jsut get the b18c. but its your car, b18c is more expensive for a reason

like i have an EG, and if it was in your position, i'd go b18c, worth it more at the end, no regrets (like you wouldn't wanna down grade in power) n its not like ur gunna head massive gains in just changing in the engines..

B18c7

Cheers for the reply! :wave::thumbsup:

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Originally Posted by MWAKU

search too. alotta ppl have asked the same thing, and in the same position as you..

anyways i'd go b18c. if u get the b16a, in time u'll want more power, and wanna get the b18c, thinking you should have got that first. b16a and b18c fine for both daily driving, your not driving some high performance turbo car or anything so just relax, just an EG. its what you want outta the car, since you said you know. ... then your decision shouldn't be that hard. jsut get the b18c. but its your car, who care about other ppls opinions..

like i have an EG, and if it was in your position, i'd go b18c, worth it more at the end, no regrets (like you wouldn't wanna down grade in power) n its not like ur gunna head massive gains in just changing in the engines..

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both engines will pretty much use the same amount of petrol as well

b18, more power. has more capacity to improve

lol go get the mugen engine vroom vroom vtec mugen tuned! lol

EG3..hence breeze correct?
When you say that you've budgeted for either, have you considered all the extra costs involved? The whole conversion can actually cost alot more than you think.

First of all, how much have you set aside for an engine? B16A halfcuts can cost anywhere between 2,000 - 4,000 depending on K's and condition. B18C will be start around the 4,000 mark i'm guessing? Then B18C type R motor will blow away 6,000 minimum. Also if you can't source it locally, may have to find one interstate. Hence shipping costs?

Then you'll have to worry about the process of converting the single carb to EFI. Parts wise it isn't too bad, just need a fuel pump, fuel tank and 3 fuel lines as carb models doesn't have the return line. Budget around 400 bucks for that. From my understanding an OBD0 to OBD1 harness is required as well? Set aside just a tad under 200 for that.

What about other factors such as rebuilds? You might wanna replace the gaskets on the head and block since you cannot be 100% sure on the history of the motor. E.G. how long it's been in the wreckers for or how long its been in someone's backyard. Whether moist or water has seeped through into the engine?

Should also replace timing belt while you're at it, which is another 100 bucks for the parts and a couple more hundred for labour. Replacing all your fluids is vital as well. Save yourself the hassle by doing it right the first time. As i said, you don't know how long it's been laying around for and hence you'll want to flush the motor and start clean with new engine oil, brake fluid, clutch fluid, transmission oil, power steering fluid, the lot!

If you're not doing all this yourself, then labour will be a whole lot more as well..Not sure on rates, but I think it'll be well over 1,000 with all that done.

All the stuff mentioned to be replaced is not essential, but to be honest, why would you stooge yourself by saving a couple of hundred bucks to begin with, then end up needing to replace a timing belt later on down the track causing more labour and hence more costs.

I'm looking at a B16A conversion myself and i've taken some of these factors into consideration, as a result my conversion should near 4,500. I would imagine a B18C conversion costing somewhere around 6k-7k.

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B18C is better, lot more torque. However if you wanna mod the B16A down the road, results won't disappoint either. You mentioned that you don't wanna hardcore mod out the engine. However, just for some info, a B16A all motor rebuild by Toda apparently gives 130kw+ at the wheels, which is approximately an extra 30kw over a stock integra type R. Once again $$$ is obviously involved...Lots of it. Whereas for light mods, you'll still get a pretty quick B16A on the streets. In conclusion, B16A gets my vote.

ive got a b16a in my eg, i believe its a fun revvy car, which has heaps of potential, though i do agree it does lack quite alot of torque. But it opens doors to FI/ or evn going b20a later on down the rd. Its just what u want out of the door.