info on turbo'ing the teg

hey guys...i'm looking into turbo'ing the teg but i'm not sure about it as i've never turbo'd a n/a car b4.... the guy that owns the gold integra (not sure if u guys know much about it.. i think croyden built it) with the alfa front bar is selling his setup... i heard about it i think he wants something like $5k that includes everything... computer, manifold, turbo, cooler, piping, everything needed to turbo a teg... if anyone can give me some info on if this is worth the money in doing it.. and if it'll kill my engine

i think the turbo is a t04, haltech computer, custom cooler, piping and manifold... sorry for the long post... thanks...

Will

Depends on a few things i guess. btw that post wasnt long..
How healthy is your teggys engine? will it withstand being boosted by a to4 ?
Think about those things before you go getting ahead of yourself...
Keep us updated if you get it. CHeers..

Also depends on whether ur thinking of ever tracking the car... if ur going to track the car id keep it N/A as it is my understanding that it costs a lot of money to have a reliable turbo track car... much more than 5k

=P

Well if you have already decided to go turbo, then you need to provide us with specifics as to the setup that he is selling and its condition.

well 1st things 1st... i've seen the setup in the car and looks pretty good... turbo doesn't look like it's got any fins broken or much shaft play... i'm just wondering if it'll completly munch my nice b18c.... my engine is in good condition... log books always serviced .. the timing belt has been done etc.. i dont give the car a very hard time i give it a good dose of vtec every day or 2 on the way home from work!!

i'm just more wondering about if it's worth it.... cause i just want to know if i'll end up killing my car cause the car is in good condition.. always serviced ... timing belt changed, log books etc... i dont want to ruin the car buy a turbo... so does this mean i should just keep it n/a and have a decent track car etc...

Will

weq u wanna take this one

You won't ruin the car as long as you:

1. Don't run excessive amounts of boost
2. Use a good ECU and have it tuned well (this is the key to reliability)
3. Regular servicing and maintainance after you do the turbo conversion.

Take care of the car and it will take care of you. IMO the b18c is a good candidate for a turbo application and if your engine is already in good condition, adding a turbo will be fine for street applications.

If you are planning on tracking the car however, then i'd be careful

fair enough...... cause only reason i ask is i've heard of alot of turbo honda's smashing rods/pistons and killing the engine cause turbo a high compression engine will kill it ...

and i've also heard storys about after turbo'ing a honda u actually loose power... it happned on a black del sol crx....

i was also looking at supercharger kits from the US .. vortex kits to be exact... not sure where to head with this option!! thanks for helping me out guys with info on honda's as i'm still a newbe... appriciate it ..

Will

Vortex your looking at roughly around the $7000 mark, not intercooled, last time i checked. Its shit all power compared to that of a turbo running off unused exhaust gases. Also, boost on a vortex supercharger is extremely limited, and to up the boost, would involve buying a bigger supercharger in some cases. However vortex build some very reliable and safe kits for the b18c, b16a. Talk to capa performance, they know everything about them.

The turbo setup should be good. For around 4-7psi. Anything above, and it could be causing problems. A good friend of mine has a turbo teg, just like yours. Has been running 5psi, and driving it quite hard for a few months now. No problems what so ever. But he spent quite a bit on tuning.

CL455, we did a teg, been boosted on a stock b18c for about 1.5 years, stock engine and it ran 10psi daily. Believe me this guy doesnt treat his car nice, and has not had one problem to date.

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fair enough...... cause only reason i ask is i've heard of alot of turbo honda's smashing rods/pistons and killing the engine cause turbo a high compression engine will kill it ...

and i've also heard storys about after turbo'ing a honda u actually loose power... it happned on a black del sol crx....

i was also looking at supercharger kits from the US .. vortex kits to be exact... not sure where to head with this option!! thanks for helping me out guys with info on honda's as i'm still a newbe... appriciate it ..

Will

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is that the guy in canberra who ran 6psi on his CRX and blew the headgasket after a week?? I wouldnt take any hints from that setup man if thats the case. I'll take you for a drive next time i'm out, you can see for yourself how much power you lose :)

and guys here will back up what i said to you about superchargers ;)

hahahahahaha..... nice poid!! yea that black crx is the one i'm talking about... cause i heard he was only running low boost and it went bang!!

i might seriously think about it..... take me for a drive poid and i'll make a decision from that... so the pressure is on ;) hehehe i'm not for superchargers no more.. i looked up on some info about it.... not the best things in the world..... but i'll wait on u poid...

Will

i was looking at turbo charging my teg

i had received a few quotes from various workshops

they ranged from 9-12 k thats is including parts and labour

they told me depending on how you drive your car, you should be fine running low boost thats is 4-7 psi

however if you drive like an idiot, they couldnt guarantee that the engine wont blow or even more importantly that the gear box wont be f*king up on me

keeping in mind, gear boxes aint cheap to replace

just have a think about all your circumstances that may result and if you can find some one that could guarantee you on your parts ie engine and box, than your cheering :)

goodluck

Honda gearbox's are generally quite strong, and the only time they will be braking will be after many hard launches at the track/bad misshifts.

As for the setup, 5k could be a good price depending on the exact parts used. Im assuming u have a VTiR teg? She will boost fine. My only concern is the second hand turbo - never been a fan. how long has it been used for? The way the drive the car doesnt really matter, its the tune you have that will define how successful the conversion will be. Look at adding another 300-500 for tuning of the ECU once everything is install.

As for the 10-12k turbo conversion done by shops, pass it up. generally u will be wasting alot of money because they wont even be opening the engine up with those prices - basically just be giving u what a turbo kit offers.

yeah thats exactly rite Weq, they couldnt warrantee my car parts from f*cking up and went going to strengthen anything either. Thats y I wasnt so keen anymore to continue with my project. I needed a few more grand to strengthen various engine/box components. And didnt have the budget to follow such an expensive application.

Its either do it properly once, or dont do it at all.

D.A.R.T can do some good jobs for around the 10k mark. This includes fmic, injectors, turbo, rods, pistons, rings, new bearings, etc. Does not include ECU and tune. Let me know if you want their details

hmmm the ecu's r really expensive though

just do some research in what ecu is required 2 go with the setup and some prices

as mentioned above, a proper dyno tune is extremely required

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Originally Posted by wynode

If you are planning on tracking the car however, then i'd be careful

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explain

A track car will generate a lot more heat and be more susceptible damage than a street / drag car, hence if you are going to track the car, you will have to think about an oil cooler, upgraded radiator to say the least :)

yep keep that oil cool on the track. where as on the street, an oil cooler may be overkill and actually harm the car because the oil isnt at the correct operating temp.

hmmm......... i think with all that comes to mind with turbo'ing a teg.. i think i might just leave it N/A and get some nice toda cams or something like that... and have the nice vtec sound....

anywayz... thanks for all the info guys... really appriciate it... if i do sometime in the future go turbo i'll look back on this thread!!

cheers,

Will

You'll need some Spec A camshafts to go with the Toda Cam gears, to notice any real difference!

my mate can get a turbo kit for $1200 for the B serires engine complete, except for intercooler, all u ned is custom made, can be boosted to abotu 18 PSi, but all u want is abotu 7, thats enuff for a teg, with 8PSi u rip most ****s on the road these days, no ned for track times, want track times get a RWD car. cos i wanted to get that turbo kit and do my car, but VTEC and turbo sin't a great mix at him booost small liek 7PSi is alright but higher is liek not good cos of the higher Vtec compression, turbos run beta on low comp.
can't be F**cked writing mroe so cya;s all later if u really want the turbo kit PM me