Mugen ECU for K series

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05-01-2009, 05:43 PM
jaseDC5R

Mugen ECU for K series

Hey guys

Im looking to get a ECU for my DC5r and heard something interesting abt the Mugen ECU. Apparantely the Mugen N1 ECU tunes itself by getting readings from the sensors. can anyone confirm this?
05-01-2009, 06:26 PM
TODA AU

It's ok, (Hondata is better)
It's pre tuned & cannot tune itself except for long term fuel & knock trims.
Works well with all Mugen parts.
Not recommended for cam changes.
Put a post up in wanted to buy section... You should find one on here for a good price.
05-01-2009, 06:29 PM
jaseDC5R

thanks for the info.....
was thinking to go either hondata or mugen....but i know u need a race license to purchase the mugen.
05-01-2009, 08:00 PM
chargeR

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Originally Posted by jaseDC5R

thanks for the info.....
was thinking to go either hondata or mugen....but i know u need a race license to purchase the mugen.

You generally do need race hookups to get the N1 9000+ RPM version of the mugen ECU. I know of more than one in Aus though so they can be had second hand.

Mugen race parts are awesome though. Chicks dig them.
05-06-2009, 05:42 PM
qstoria

old thread but..

are there two versions of the N1 ecu?
11-07-2009, 10:19 AM
air23box

Yes it is....there is mugen Street ecu which rev to 8600rpm and Mugen N1 which rev to 9200rpm...Both of the Vtec change over at 5200rpm...race team usually use the 8600rpm one for long race and N1 for short race......They are generally about 1k-1.2k 2nd hand........about 1.8k brand new.....not sure about the price now since the exhange rate is so bad......in order to install it in audm DC5R you need to bridge a wire to your immoboliser or it won't start......also you will see the little green key light keep flashing....just ignore it........or you can pull the little green plug off behind the steeling wheel.....hope that helps..
11-07-2009, 11:30 AM
mystic

Is there a Mugen ECU for 2005 Type S models?
11-07-2009, 11:34 AM
air23box

Yeah...they are the same....
11-07-2009, 11:35 AM
mystic

Sweet gonna have a look for one.

Thanks!
11-07-2009, 12:42 PM
qstoria

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Originally Posted by mystic

Sweet gonna have a look for one.

Thanks!

1k and ill send you mine on monday
11-07-2009, 01:00 PM
qstoria

btw mine is the 8600rpm one obviously!
11-07-2009, 01:29 PM
mystic

Dont suppose you've plugged it into a 2005 DC5 Type S model before? Havent been able to find anywhere on the net about Mugen ECU (02-04) and a 2005 model....
11-07-2009, 03:39 PM
qstoria

not a type s sorry. a dc5r yep and it is quite noticeable over stock!

I am not sure how different a type s is from a type r. If i had to guess then i would say they would be pretty much the same. see what u find and if you are interested just let me know.
11-07-2009, 08:06 PM
blk_shadow

shame there is none available for EP3R
11-07-2009, 08:49 PM
qstoria

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Originally Posted by blk_shadow

shame there is none available for EP3R

what do u mean? can they not be used on in an ep3?
11-07-2009, 09:09 PM
Dr.k20z1

pm me if anyone wants to sell
11-07-2009, 09:27 PM
blk_shadow

Quote:

Originally Posted by qstoria

what do u mean? can they not be used on in an ep3?

I never find one that is applicable for EP3 anywhere. so not sure. the one for DC5R, Mugen actually recommends to change the valve spring as well (or is this the one for the N1 spec?)...so really not sure about running with stock internals when I can use that for my EP3.
11-07-2009, 09:58 PM
qstoria

i have used it fine for over 3 years now. stock motor apart from toda pistons. i'd say the n1 spec u would want higher spec valve springs perhaps. As for running it with an ep3, i would have thought that as long as u can plug it in then it would work. they are made for the K20A motors, not specifically for integras or civics etc.
11-07-2009, 09:59 PM
qstoria

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Originally Posted by Dr.k20z1

pm me if anyone wants to sell

like i said before, 1k and ill post it to you monday
12-07-2009, 02:32 AM
mystic

Quote:

Originally Posted by qstoria

like i said before, 1k and ill post it to you monday

I think Dr.k20z1 is in the same boat as me with a type S. I've talked to a local guy in Perth and informed me I need to get 02-04 ecu and get hondata to update it to fit an 05 model. Hopefully this will get me somewhere!
12-07-2009, 12:09 PM
JDM.Power

Quote:

Originally Posted by mystic

I think Dr.k20z1 is in the same boat as me with a type S. I've talked to a local guy in Perth and informed me I need to get 02-04 ecu and get hondata to update it to fit an 05 model. Hopefully this will get me somewhere!

yes this is correct,

refer to hondata site.

02-04 and 05+ are different
12-07-2009, 05:21 PM
qstoria

ok im a little confused here? are you guys all saying that the mugen n1 k20 ecu cannot be used in a type s? I am also confused as to why hondata is being mentioned?
12-07-2009, 05:32 PM
mystic

Havent found any reference of anyone with a 2005 model and a Mugen ECU. All the sites that are selling it have the 02-04 stated. Airbox23 said its the same for the 05 Type S, so it could work?

Quote:

Originally Posted by qstoria

ok im a little confused here? are you guys all saying that the mugen n1 k20 ecu cannot be used in a type s? I am also confused as to why hondata is being mentioned?
12-07-2009, 05:48 PM
denrie

There is one available for EP3R. Username (nvdvtc) bought his EP3R with a Mugen ECU and is selling it. Give him a buzz if interested guys.
13-07-2009, 02:42 AM
BusterSonic12

anyone does a diy guide to change mugen ecu back to stock? because toda has welded some wire together for the immobilizer or something. how do i undo it?