hey, can a h22a fit into a 1996 civic? including aircond and p/s
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hey, can a h22a fit into a 1996 civic? including aircond and p/s
yeah it can mate, but gonna cost a lot of money for labour.
anything is possible with money.
J swap it!
nah but h22a would be a torquey as car man!
there are a couple cars rolling around with h22s in their civics.. heres one that danny wrote for egs which have similar engine bay size as eks.
http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=47020
oh and check this discussion out aswellQuote:
H22a Engine coversion Prelude SIR/VTIR/type S
This engine conversion i am not familar but.
these engines can be found in the Gen 4,5 prelues, Accord Type R's etc
H22as can be picked up pretty cheap compared to the B serise has they are not as popular.
H22a's are very very torquey. There are few cars on the forums with H22a's and the can run mid to high 13's easy.
A DIY ariticel Done by Honda B blastn
http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthr...highlight=h22a
H22as are rated at arond 142KW. but custom mounts such as hasports etc are needed to fit in into a EG
http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=34727
Without provoking outrage from H22 conversion owners, I have owned 6 converted EG's and the H22 can make a beast of a vehicle - in good and bad ways!
The B16A and B18C7 just feel like they are designed to be in the car, handling, feel etc. The H22A cars I owned (only owned the first one for a day but it cost me $1500 in that day!), were both crazy fast and more torquey but less revvy than the B18 I have now (and no faster either down the strip or point to point). The engine felt like it's not at one with the chassis and the dash in both cars vibrated more than it should, even at idle.
The car understeers more heavily and without p'steering it is also heavier in the steering than my B18CR. In both H22 cars, heat soak through the firewall made summer drives a thing for the mildly insane.
My best advice is to drive something like you want to build before you build it! The number of build projects that get sold as soon as they are completed tells you just how important this step is!
EK's may be slightly different with regard to engine bay size, heat etc so ask someone who has done it before! Or... buy one already completed! It's cheaper in the long run in some cases!
Think about engine management, too!
A much cheaper engine to buy, though!
^^ That is some really great knowledge there mate,thanks a lot for sharing!
just had this swap done.
there are alot of parts required and cost of labour is high which cancels out the fact the engine is very cheap to buy..
i only drove mine for about 20 minutes when i picked it up lastnight before it started playing up. somethings up in the gearbox and goto get it checked out(but thats off topic)..
h22a are great motors. Got 2 tuned last weekend and both made very good power repectivity. Lets jsut say more than a b18c7 with the same bolt-ons.
Get the type S motors and you'll just wheelspin everywhre.
But ill spend the little extra and get a h2b kit. Better axle position, saves on buying the mount kit and the car will run 12sec down the 1/4mile
i got mine ek done wih a h22a. no aircond but ps still there. I cant really complaint it never had a problem once since i pick it up (its been over a year now). it drives like crazy love it. As you guys metioned there're alot of part to be replace so good workmanship is very important. the mechanics must know what he/she doing . if u want the workshop detail pm me or people thinks im advertising for those guys lol but they're fantastic. As for the H gearbox if u cant afford the H2B get the CL1 Accord type R gear box with closer gear ratios and OEM LSD equipped for about 2000. Ive been in my mechanics 12s EG with H2B. its a beast to drive but i dont know if i can drive around in it everyday lol.
i think through research iv found the only real weakness of the H22 is the gearboxes. ppl say if you start crunching 3rd then gears 5and reverse will go straight away.
H2b for an untouchable combination
I've always found the H22 boxes to be as strong as an ox.
I've driven 2 H22A EG's, 1 a drag car, and 1 a street car. For both applications they are great. The torque of the engine makes it a very easy car to drive on the street.
Most of the problems people have with conversions is not doing it 100% the first time. If you take short cust it will no doubt end in drama. Spend that little bit extra time, effort, and $$$ and you will be rewarded with a nice conversion. never try and do a conversion on the cheap.
Thing's with converted H22a EG/DC2 are the terrible axle position with the aftermarket mounts (hasport). For daily comuting it wont be such a problem. If you wanting to race it down the track then ill consider another option -H2B. Dollar value the H22a wins.
Absolutely. The driveshaft angles are terrible for drag racing and you will find you will break CV's like no tomorrow. Either make up some custom mounts or a from what I have read a H2B conversion.
so in reguards to the H2b converion, its obiously a b series gear box with an adapotor plate? and so dus that 'fix' the driveshaft angles to make braking cv joints less likely? by moving the box 2 a more suitable angle or position?
sorry im really new to this sort of thing, also how much are these h2b conversions worth? id imagine that it would be a buy and import item from the US or somthing
cheers
Josh
Im considering going down the same path, still saving $$$ LOL. the h2b is pretty much simply a b series conversion, except with a h series motor. Theres two main adapter kits, the evolution or QSD, but with the h2b the motor sits more straight so hood clearance would be an issue.
From what Iv read up the evolution kit makes it sit slightly lower than the QSD, for an EK with the evolution kit the hood should close without spacers.
you'll have to roughly calculate how much its goner cost, iv calculated over 7k minimum thats not including engineering costs or brake upgrade.
im asking approx how much for a h2b kit alone is worth? has ne 1 got any experience as to what kit is better out of evoloution and the QSD?Quote:
Originally Posted by simonnowis
if the evo kit is lower guessing h22 eg's would have more header clearance issues
check on www.ebay.com or www.honda-tech.com
they're like $1500USD not including shipping to aus. thats for the evolution kit btw.
people seem to favor the QSD kits more than the evo over in the states. correct me if im wrong, but i think the evo kit comes with a supplied flywheel, where as with the QSD kit you can use any b-series flywheel and clutch. the evo kit is more expensive because it comes with mounts to.
theres also ment to be a h2d kit where you use ur d-series box.
Both are great Kits. It depends if you want to lose ground clearance for a good hood fitment or raise the hood hideously and have ground clearance
If its going into an EK, ill go for the QSD kits
im getting a h22a in my civic and was thinking about a b18c gearbox, but i was told the standard b18c gearbox was fine but i was also told it would need to be strengthened? can anyone help me ?
i got a h23a vtec in my ek still has p/steerin and aircon so yer it can be done