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Simple question, what's the size of the stock rims for the Euro??
I think they are 16X6.5, but no idea about offset and spacing. The reason I ask is that I'm looking for a set a new rims for the Euro, and want to know what size rims will fit it. I'm after a 17" rim, and I think 17X7 will fit, it not sure.
They are 16" x 6.5" (I'm pretty sure) with a +45 offset.
17" x 7" will fit no worries, you could put 20's on if you wanted! The American market gets 17" x 7" standard.
Why not go 18's??? 17's are too small!!! 18's would look much better and you still have a 40 profile tyre, not rubber bands. They are not that much more expensive for a full set of mags and tyres.
The rims aren't just for looks, and I don't want to compromise performance with 18's.
get volk's then! 18's still lighter than stocko's. They will cost you ~$1000 per rim though!
try ysearch it up on net..
I have my eyes set on the CN28's...they are soo nice. Pity I don't have enough money for them :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Type R Positive
I'm setting my budget to around $1.5-2K. Don't mind 2nd hand stuff either, as long as it's not damaged.
This is what I like, got a quote for $2,000 delivered to my door for a set of 4 18" mags with tyres. Just waiting for spare cash.Quote:
Originally Posted by Slugoid
http://www.ozzytyres.com.au/wheels_m...=104&mag_id=31
Try tempe tyres as well, they are really cheap as well.
Almost right mate, they are +55 offset.Quote:
Originally Posted by Type R Positive
I have 17 x 7.5 - they fit perfectly- +48 offset. I wouldn't go less than +42 offset
cool, thanks!
Just to confirm that yfin is correct. The offset on the Euros are +55. Managed to get a 17 x 7.5 with + 55 offset too!!
I just found a set of DC2R rims for sale...just wondering if they will fit the Euro.
AUSDM or JDM DC2R rims?
if AUSDM it's 15", it won't fit the Euro cos of huge ass front brake caliper that Euro's got.
Yeah, they're AUSDM ones...damn.
I though AUSDM and JDM DC2R have the same rims...well they sure looks the same.
15" is a little small for the Euro. The DC5 is 16" and fits - I have seen the DC5R rims on a Euro - they look much better than the stock Euro rims.Quote:
Originally Posted by Slugoid
yeah, I'm thinking of getting a set of 16" DC5 rims for track use.
The offset of the DC5R rim is +45. perfect fit.
Just thought I would add some info about the PCD of the OEM wheels, it is 5 x 114.3
Thanx for that. Took me a while to find that out, cos I somehow figured that the CL7 (Accord Euro-R) also has the same PCD as well.
Just to add my 2 bobs worth, the original tyres and rims are
205/55/16 overall tyre diameter of 631.9mm 5 stud 114.3mm pcd.
offset of +55mm . original rims 16x6.5JJ ET55 (ET = +ve.)
I have put on 18" x7.5" rims G-Max E920 10 spoke +42mm offset machined lip high silver Rims on mine (see Gallery)
Fitted with a 225/40/18 overall tire diameter of 637.2mm
Therefore an increase of only 5.3mm ,not much to worry about .
The 225's at 42mm +ve offset means the tyre stick out 23mm more than original.
Looks good next to the slightly flarred guards of the Euro.
Next I will have to lower the car 22 to 35mm.
225/40/18 tyres are expensive comparred to the run of the mill massed produced low profile tyres.
Some Euros install 235/40/18's cheaper tyre to get and a better range of manufactures giving specials for that size .
235/40 is an overall tyre diameter of 645.2mm
An increase of 13.3mm ,can look too large ,especailly if you don't lower the car. But not a huge increase and is within leagal limit of increased diameter above standard issue.
The 235 wide tire at 42mm offset is also just legal and is almost flush with the guards.
The 235 can go on 7.5" rims but have seen them on 18x8's .
More selection of 18x8" with 5 studs at 114.3mm pcd than the 18x7.5's.
The 235/40/18 tyre is a popular Holden (Apollo) AU Falcon tyre on some models.
The 5 stud 114.3 42 offset 17 and 18 rims are the same as AU Falcons so once again an easy rim to get on the secondhand market, that's if you like what is available for Falcon on a Honda (not!!)
When my 225's wear out I will probably put on 235/40's ,slightly larger in dia ,but will get a slightly softer ride back and still look great and a better track.
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Originally Posted by Type R Positive
Great looking wheels on the Ozzy tyre site you quoted almost the exact same as GieMax E920's 10 spoke high sliver etc.
I picked up the 18x7.5 GieMax's for $396 each pick up some good secondhand 225/40/18 " tyres for $100 ea & fitted and balanced and new chrome nuts and fitting tool for $1986
Another good rim is the Concept 9's 18x7.5 9 spoke shadow chrome ,not sure what the make or supplier is. "Tyre Power" have them.
I haven't got the mags yet, I might have to sell the Euro.........Quote:
Originally Posted by Lacrosse19
I don't mind ozzytyres, they seem to have good deals. The mags that I wanted cost about $1300 per rim. Volk racing forged mag progressive spoke's
http://www.wheelspecs.com/specs/wheelmodels/2238
Stock offset is +55.Be careful changing the offset greatly - I am told it puts a lot of strain on wheel bearings and suspension components. Changing the offset so greatly can also impact handling.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lacrosse19
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Originally Posted by Slugoid
They are 16"x 6 1/2" JJ 55+ve offset :)
man thats expensive....i got 18x8 bsa 291 shadow chrome with 225/40/18 tyres all new for $1550Quote:
Originally Posted by Lacrosse19
Yfin is right about changing the offset greatly as it will cause undue stress on your bearings and suspension components.
Remember, when we're talking about offsets, we're talking about how far in/out from the centre of the wheel the mounting point is.
If you're going for a wider wheel, a +55 offset on a 7.5in wide wheel will have a wider paw print than a +55 offset on a 6.5in wide wheel. The outer edge of the wheel will actually sit 13mm further out, and you'll find that the inner edge of the wheel will actually have 13mm less clearance from the strut housing i.e inner edge of the wheel moves further in. Therefore the whole paw print moves evenly out and in 13mm. If the 7.5in wide wheel had a +42 offset, the outer edge of the wheel would sit 26mm out compared to the 6.5in wheel, and the distance from the strut housing to the inner edge of your wheel would be the same as the 6.5in +55 wheel. Therefore the paw print extends outward 26mm, but not inward at all.
The ideal scenario is one where if increasing your wheel width, both the outer and inner edge increase evenly either side of the standard wheel, therefore maintaining a balance as close to standard as possible. The best way to do this is to stick with the same offest as standard no matter what width of wheel you use, however at the same time you have to ensure that the inner side of the wheel will clear the strut housing (if not you may have to go for a slightly lower offset to clear it). This combination in addition to finding a style that you like can be difficult to find, but in the end you'll be happier with how the car handles/grips and you'll be minimising the increase of wear on your suspension.
Here's a simple tool that you may find helpful http://toy4two.home.mindspring.com/offset.html
Hope this clears some things up for anyone still a bit confused :wave:
Anyone know the thread pitch for the wheel nuts? is it 12 x 1.5 mm? or other size?
Just got news from Honda, it's 1.5mm pitch, 12mm stud
Im getting 18 inch wheels on my new accord euro standard. What is the best, legal, safest tyre size for the 18 that keeps the rolling diameter the same (as stock 16in) and keeps the offset ok for suspension load/wear??
Use this:Quote:
Originally Posted by Suntzu
http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html
I think most tyre shops will recommend to you 225/40/18 - load rating above 91 to be legal.
Offset is determined by the rim - not tyres. You should aim for betwen +45 and +55.
Not to mention speed rating must be V or above
240kph sounds nice to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by euro77
See the problem is I was shagged when i bought the car, 5pm Sat after a 5 hour drive. So i just said " Ill have the 18s that were on the demo I just drove" but I didnt get the brand, tyre size etc. So im going to ring them to confrim tommorow what it is.
I will say "225/40/18 - load rating above 91 V speed rating" and they should be cool with that cause that what they should already have.
Thanks for the advice. Ive learned a shit load since buying the honda yesterday. I like to be armed with info, esp when I pick it up. :)
Great - make sure you check the rim offset!! They will not let you take it back later.Quote:
Originally Posted by Suntzu
How do I check it when i pick the car up??
It is on the inside of the rim - most likely you will need to remove rim off the car. Why don't you call the dealer and get them to find out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Suntzu
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Originally Posted by yfin
Yeah, Offset of the rim is very important.
stock is 55, Offset 48 will allow wheels to sit out a little bit more than stock but still within legal limit, and it wont rub the guard/fender. Albii has 18" on his Euro with offset 48. It looks very very nice.
yfin,
I got some info of the dealer today.
The wheels are made by KONYA ??
Continental Conti Sport Contact 2. Size is 215 40 R18 is the tyre.
Will this be ok? Anyone heard of KONYA?
I can get my insurance quote now, looks like the tyre size is well within 25mm of stock width. Are the continentals any good. The demo I drove had this Exact combination and frankly it handled brillantly, thats why I ordered exactly the same.
Any comments appreciated.
I can't find any info on Konya rims on the web. That doesn't mean they are bad - it just means they are more likely to be cheaper Taiwanese rims. Ask what the warranty period is for piece of mind.Quote:
Originally Posted by Suntzu
In terms of tyres - 215 is an unusual size - I would be going for 225. Offset?
The Continental tyres sound fine.
Yeah I couldnt find them either, might have been a type in the email they sent, maybe Koya ? Yeah the size is unusual. It will be in speed with the rolling diameter but.
Does this mean they are likely, 18x7 ? That would be good as I want to keep rolling resistance down.
Actually, if you go here http://www.koyawheels.com/inox.html the first wheel presented looks EXACTLY like the one I saw on it. I think I was sent a typo. They are an australian company by the looks..
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Originally Posted by Suntzu
Yep - I see. You should call them tomorrow and find out the offset available for the 18 x 8. If it is not too late I would also inquire about 225 wide tyres.
215 on an 8" wide seems wrong.
Continental is a German brand (I think). It makes good quality tyres, just that they dont have that much publicity here in oz like Goodyear and bridgestones. Lots of Mercedes have Conti SPort Contact 2 as standard tyres (eg. C200 K). so they can't be to bad.Quote:
Originally Posted by Suntzu
They sare definately KOYA wheels. Im not sure of which one exactly. 5 or r spoke, maybe the sport versions. I checked with the dealer. They may be 18x7 or 18x7.5 as that would make sense with the 215/40/18.
The Conti Sport Contact 2 are awesome tyres!! I've got a set on my Supra, and they are easily the best tyres I've had on it - better even than the Pirelli P Zero Assymetrico's I had (and more expensive too). As a comparison, the prior Falken's I had (not the cheapo ones, the top street tyre) would light up in 4th gear in the wet under boost, with the Conti's I can nail it in 3rd and it sticks!!Quote:
Originally Posted by PNR888
Now, obviously the Euro won't have that problem, but it goes to show they've got some grip... They also ride very nicely, and are pretty quiet too!! (Damn, I'm starting to sound like a Conti salesperson :D )
Great. Frankly I was astounded why the euro stuck so incredibly well on the 18" and the contis. That explains it! :)
It is not so much the tyres - even the stock Euro with 16" grips really well in the dry. Very hard to rotate the rear enough to break traction. I think it would be a bloody hard car to lose control in - in the dry that is.Quote:
Originally Posted by Suntzu
I went to Brisbane BMW last night, looked thru the showroom's glass window. The new 3 series (320i with 16") have Continental Conti Sport Contact too.
sorry for asking this....
using this website http://toy4two.home.mindspring.com/offset.html
our wheel is 6.5 width with 55 offset
if i was to get width 7 offset 40
it say that "The clearance from stut housing to the inside of the wheel will be 9mm MORE"
what exactly does that mean? and is it ok ? thanks
it means you have more room in the inside because your wheels will be sticking out a lot to the outside.
Most people would recommend not to go below +43 offset for euro. +48 is probably the best offset, as it will sit the wheels flush with the guard.
what would happen if i do get rims that is 40 offset 17x7
the calculator says its 9mm more does that mean i might rub the guard if i turn?
my car isnt lowered so does that have any affect? or shoul dit be ok to use? thanks
9mm more clearance meaning you have more room inside the wheel area, so it won't rub. however, your wheel will stick to the outside.
read how much the wheel will stick out, then measure it on your car, if you find it good, then go ahead. But becareful, I think it's illegal to have the wheel sticking out too much.
it says it sticks out 21mm??? is that still legal for our euro? sorry for these stopid questions i dont really know much about these things
does that mean from my guard the wheel will stick out 2.1cm? what is the legal limit in australia?
it sticks out 21 mm than what currently is. so you need to measure 21 mm towards the outside from your stock rim, and that's where your new rim will end up.
again, as others have said, +48 offset seems to be the best for euro.
yeah even +45 but no less....+45 or +48 seem to be about right.
from what the calculator says , a 17x7.5 +48 sticks out 20mm also soo not much difference as long as the 9mm more from stut housing is ok for the euro (not touching brakes, guard etc) then im happy
Looks like im getting Inox 1 18x8 wheels on my euro. Will this size be too wide for insurance if the stock wheel is 16x6.5 ???
inox 1 are fine...i was looking at them also until i found out there was another 3 or 4 euros floating around brisbane with the same wheels some with 19s in the inox 1s.Quote:
Originally Posted by Suntzu
Bugger, been told that they cant source the inox 1 due to a supply problem. Jeeze im getting BS'ed around on this deal...they reckon 4 weeks. Im gunna cancel the wheels and get them myself later.
hey where abouts you live bro which city??Quote:
Originally Posted by Suntzu
Im in canberra but the cars in sydney
have a look at my other choice look at my car pics
Im not sure what you mean?? Which pics?
Suntzu:
Another member checked with Beaurepair tyre shop for Koya Inox1 recently. he been told that Inox-1 is out of stock now until july. so I guess your dealer is not telling you lie.
Agree with you, I will get the car first. then do the wheel later.
$2200 with continental tyres sounds good deal. but u probably can get slightly better deal NanKang NS2 tyres. (make sure you get at least 225/40/18 tyre for 8" wide rims)
Yeah, its a done deal now. Ill try to get my own wheels and trade the 16s. Is tempe wheels any good?
anyone know offset of stock euro luxury 17s
I am fairly sure it is +55 - same as 16".Quote:
Originally Posted by REK13S
Hehehe i just bought those wheels!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Type R Positive
Look at the photo forum under my post for new wheels for the Euro
I put a set of mazda RX8 18 X 8 rims on the accord euro wagon, suit it very well. The mazda rims have a +50 offset and the rim guards on the 225 tyres sit outside the guards slightly. But the overall rim suits the euro really well (similar design to the stock rims only much bigger). The 45 series potenza 040 makes the diameter a bit more though.
BUMP.
Looking into aftermarket 17s. What bolt pattern am I looking for? 5x114.3 or 5x100? And what is the suitable range of offsets? Thread dimensions for locknuts?
5x114.3, +45 - +55 offset
hmmm, buddyclub p1 sf has 5x114.3 in 42 offset and 5x100 in 48 offset for 17x7.
Obviously as 5x100 stud pattern won't fit it looks like only the 5x114.3 version is suitable.
Done a search etc and it seems +42 may be a fine line. Will I encounter problems (scrubbing etc), especially in the future if I lower the car ~1.5" all round?
And anybody know about the locknut dimensions?
5x114.3 between +45-+55 offset & lugnuts should be M12x1.5 <-- confirm with someone else but thats what i know.
cheers, I think I can get away with 42 offset because its only 7 inch wide. Hopefully no probs when it comes to lowering
42 offset is fine, difference to 45 is so little.
M12x1.5 :thumbsup:
Thanks!
Sorry to revive an old thread guys, just considering getting some new rims and i want to make sure i get the right size etc.
Rim size - 5x114.3 / 17x7J with +45 Offset
Tyres - 225/45/17
Would that be suitable to run on the euro? I'm sorry, very noob with all this technical stuff
thats fine, thats just like stock 17"s but with a lower offset which is even better :thumbsup:
I have exactly the same size wheels b4 on my euro except i'm running 215/45/17Quote:
Originally Posted by Darkii_
fits perfect
thanks for that guys =) will post up pics when i get them