Euro Luxury or S2000, u decide..

As heading clearly asks, early model S2000(convertible :thumbsup: ), or a Euro '03 Luxury 6MT?

I know everyone will have their different opinions, please express them.

I've been in the market for an S2000 for a few months now, but the Accord Euro Luxury is so classy and very hard to get by. What would you prefer, and why? And how will the resale value be on either cars few years down the line.

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also: will Buddy Club P1s fit on their Euro?

i personally would go for the s2000, sports and classy look
but the disadvantage is its inconvenient if you need to drive people around

Personally, I could never own a 2 seater let alone a 2 door coupe.
Owning Honda Prelude for 6 years was more than enough to get tired of only having 2 doors and lack of space.
Now that I have 4 doors, I could never go back.

Performance in S2000 is good, but I think it's too expensive for what it is.
I'd get the Euro and if you are after a performance car, I'd probably get something other than a Honda.

Do you have a family, or going to have a family?? Have a 5 seater car that you can drive every so often??

If the answer is no and yes, then get a S2K. I would get the S2K if I was in your situation.

An early S2000 at about $40k would be nice but you can't beat the practicallity of a 4 door. The S2000 would still be worth more than euro a few years down the track simply because of the $70K+ entry price and popularity of this car. I personally would get S2000 as a second car or "sunday driver".

S2000 will pull the chicks :)

i'd love the s2k, but, practically a euro is better, and i'm happy with it.

If i had to get an inbetween, and I was allowed at the time, I would've had the Integra TypeR instead. It's more practical than the s2k. Coupe, fast and nice looking too!

The two cars that you mentioned are very very different cars and suit two lifestyles at opposite ends of the spectrum. I think the decision can only come from yourself and what will suit your needs.

I always wanted an S2 since they were first released, so I jumped at the chance to buy one when I could afford it financially. Some things you need to remember before purchasing one is the cost of insurance - it is quite dear especially if you are under 25. Aftermarket parts are also quite expensive.

The S2 is a very focused car. The bump stroke is stiff, the cabin is tight (no glovebox, only a small compartment), limited boot space, knife-edged feel to the handling. Since the roof is so thin, in the middle of Summer it is blisteringly hot inside the cabin. While it certainly isn't a bullet in a straight line (if you like drag racing, choose a different car), I always have a smile on my face after a spirited drive. I thought of the two choices that you currently have before settling on the S2, and I haven't regretted it since.

On the flip side, my friend is a similar age to me and he's in love with his Euro...

The solution is to have a good hard think about it, and test drive both of them.

I'd go the S2000 given the choice between the two and for my situations, ie. i don't ferry ppl much.

so, as majority have suggested, practicality and convenience would be the main factor in deciding between the two.

gd luck! :)

From what I read in the reviews, S2000 lacks low end torque and hence requires a lot of reving even during casual day-to-day driving. Frankly, I think S2000 is overpriced. Interior is VERY ordinary for a car worth a load of money as well.

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Originally Posted by CONAN

As heading clearly asks, early model S2000(convertible :thumbsup: ), or a Euro '03 Luxury 6MT?

I know everyone will have their different opinions, please express them.

I've been in the market for an S2000 for a few months now, but the Accord Euro Luxury is so classy and very hard to get by. What would you prefer, and why? And how will the resale value be on either cars few years down the line.

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also: will Buddy Club P1s fit on their Euro?

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My sensible side will say euro, but my fun side says s2k all they way.. I'm young and so are you...get the s2k :D

I'll never get an early model S2K- the plastic rear screen would be opaque by now, the clutch would be stuffed and pricey for new one.....

Get a PH@T pimping oddessey!!

The latest models are hot !!

get a NSX.

It all comes down to whether you want practicability or pure wind rushing through your hair :)

In my current situation, a S2000 would be more ideal due to the fact that I'm young and will be doing alot of weekend cruising, more so than day to day driving.

The Accord Euro could be better suited to me also
1. Family car less attention i.e police
2. slower car overall that could greatly lower the chances of me beating it and copping speeding fines.
3. 4 doors, mm practicality...

I can't decide! I want the sports feel, the convertible, the 174kw 9000rpm redline, the (chicks??). But after these thoughts i still refer back to the Accord Euro Luxury!..

Im just goin' round in circles.. blah!

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Originally Posted by gundam

I'll never get an early model S2K- the plastic rear screen would be opaque by now, the clutch would be stuffed and pricey for new one.....

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gundam: better so than handing over 75k(new) wouldnt u agree? I would settle for the plastic windscreen, it can't be that bad? I mean, I'm not going go out and pay an extra say 10k for a glass window. I'm not that silly.
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I had to make a hard choice when i got my car..

But my choices were the early gen s2k (like what u r lookin at) and the type r dc5 audm...

Even though i am young i picked the dc5 ova the s2k due to various reasons.

Have u considered a dc5r for an option?

TeMp: can u list ur various reasons?

dc5r is also an option, but I would choose a S15 GT Spec R over before it.

Get a S2000 then,

fang it around for a while, when u are sick of it, get a Euro.

problem solved.

I had a mate who bought a 1 year old S2K from a dealer (it was a demo) for about a 6k discount. He drove it for 2 months and then traded it in for a BMW 320. He lost like 14k on the car in 2 months!!

Whilst he liked the S2K, 4 doors and 5 seats is just way more practical day to day. Whilst it may seem like you dont need 5 seats, it will prove to be an expensive exercise if you change your mind.

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Originally Posted by CONAN

gundam: better so than handing over 75k(new) wouldnt u agree? I would settle for the plastic windscreen, it can't be that bad? I mean, I'm not going go out and pay an extra say 10k for a glass window. I'm not that silly.
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It can be quite bad mate. As with all second hand cars, it really depends on your luck as to whether you can find one that's in a decent condition for the right price.

I guess the point I was trying to make is what you are getting for 40K, and the condition of a 2nd hand early model S2K.

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Originally Posted by CONAN

TeMp: can u list ur various reasons?

dc5r is also an option, but I would choose a S15 GT Spec R over before it.

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Well comparing the early gen s2k to a new dc5r bk then... the reasons y i choose the dc5r was:

1. The practically of four seats as i quite often take ppl around. And when u lay the bk seats down the bk is completely flat n very practical.

2. It is more expensive/harda to mod a s2k then a dc5r.

3. For the price u get a early gen s2k u can get a "NEW" dc5... the feeling of a new car is just incomprable. No matter how good the condition the s2k is it will still have the used feel n the hints of worn to it...

5. Factory warranty!!! Didn't really want the headaches of a 2nd hand car and didn't want to play around with the luck of finding a "good condition" car as I am paying hard earned money for this car...

4. Insurance was a major problem for me as I am only 20...

5. And did i mention new car? NEW NEW NEW!

May be you could hire a S2000 for a week or so and try it out. It would be an expensive exercise but you could tell if that is the car you want.

Buddyclub P1's will fit, depending on what size you are looking at. Ie: more info needed.

S2000 would be nice top down cruising on the freeway or something, carrying stuff problem, seat only one more person, What happens when want to take mates for a drive, u can only take one or g/f. can only fit a golf bag as well
Euro is more practical take all you friends for a cruise, got luggage space for a huge system. its stylish it's got power, it's what hot on the market now and everyone wants one including me, choice between those two Euro luxury for me for sure,

Well earlier this year I bought an Accord Euro and around the same time one of my close friends bought a year 2000 S2000 second hand.

I love my euro. But i also love the S2000. Everything from it oozes sex appeal but then i don't think i can drive a S2000 everyday. I sometimes swap my euro with my friend for his S2000. But for sure the S2000 is cramped. The steering wheel doesn't height adjust and there is practically no room to store goods. Its bumpy and the boot is small but for sure the S2000 makes me have a huge wide grin once it revs to 9000rpms. The feeling of hair in ur wind while the vtec screams is a worthwhile experience...

But i am happy with my euro because it is comfortable, luxurious and spacious. U can be relaxed in a euro, but driving in a S2000 i feel very tense. But I agree with practicality... Whatever the decision moite, U know that both the S2000 and the Euro is both very good cars but are totally different. By the way My mate that owns the S2000 his mother owns a BMW 320i. He prefers to use his moms car....

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Originally Posted by gundam

I'll never get an early model S2K- the plastic rear screen would be opaque by now, the clutch would be stuffed and pricey for new one.....

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Honda has a "cleaner" - for lack of remembering what it's actually called - that you can use to clean it up and maintain it to prevent the cloudiness effect you get with plastic screens.

Clutches stuff up in all cars, and must be replaced anyways. True they are a bit pricey compared to your average Kia (they rock!! :p), but it's an S2000. :)

looks like everyone here has same opinions, 1. sports fun or 2. practically with a nice relaxing new car.

its guna be a hard one moite!

i got a S2k, wouldnt have it any other way. Your young, only time you can have a car like this. Thats my theory.

Might be selling my euro very soon...and most likely for an s2000...(gotta love honda engines)....anyway, i'll let you know if i regret selling it...if i do, i could always buy a euro again...but that would be pretty stupid...

If you're young...i would get an s2000...i mean you gotta have a 2 seater once in a lifetime...especially a convertible/.

One thing i would like to ask....do you seem like a total jerk when friends ask you for a lift when you have someone with you already and you (having a s2k) say "sorry, my car only has two seats"??

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Originally Posted by EuroSip

One thing i would like to ask....do you seem like a total jerk when friends ask you for a lift when you have someone with you already and you (having a s2k) say "sorry, my car only has two seats"??

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I would tell them to walk. Unless they were a really hot chick, where you would ditch your mate and tell him to walk (best friends always understand!).

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Originally Posted by Type R Positive

I would tell them to walk. Unless they were a really hot chick, where you would ditch your mate and tell him to walk (best friends always understand!).

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Haha! normally the person with me will already be a chic...and the person asking will also be a chic...i dun normally drive guys around...

Then what do you do? guess it's back to the bigger boobs choice huh...

No really mate, if you want performance and absolute luxury than i have to say get the euro lux manual!!! You will be stupid not to! Th s2000....Well not much luxury, it doesnt even have a clock in there but its all about that 2 litre hard reving engine and sporty drive. Not saying euro isnt sporty but s2000 is designed to go hard. The euro manual is slower than s2000 by a second and half??? correct me if i am wrong. But really if i were you i would go for the euro luxury manual!!!! Its fast as a v6 car! Luxury at the standard of mercedes and lexus! Handling is awesome!

Go for the euro manual!
I recomend it!

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Originally Posted by CONAN

looks like everyone here has same opinions, 1. sports fun or 2. practically with a nice relaxing new car.

its guna be a hard one moite!

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Really im telling you again. Euro manual is very quick, its not slow. I had a test drive on one when buying the euro but ended up getting the auto. S2000 and sex appeal??? i read a few posts above saying you can pick up in the???? what the hell??? Buy a euro manual put a body kit on there and it wont disapoint ;) I wouldnt buy a s2000 over a euro manual. Sure the s2000 is a bit quicker and convertible but the euro is a luxury sports car i guess and you cant really go for a s2000 sitting in a luxury euro. Have test drive of the manual euro, you wont be disapointed.

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Originally Posted by Faiz

S2000 and sex appeal??? i read a few posts above saying you can pick up in the???? what the hell??? Buy a euro manual put a body kit on there and it wont disapoint ;)

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Chicks will always go for a convertable. It could be a ford capri for all they care!

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Originally Posted by Type R Positive

Chicks will always go for a convertable. It could be a ford capri for all they care!

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is you say so, getting girls by buying a convertible is a pthetic idea though! that is kinda sad if you thin about it. :thumbdwn:

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Originally Posted by Type R Positive

Chicks will always go for a convertable. It could be a ford capri for all they care!

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or a holden astra convertible

you guys are all missing the point here.... yes we know there are heaps of girls that would ride in a convertible and that might be a point of potential hookup but i really do reccomend this guy the euro manual...You really want a convertible that bad? than go for it. You will regret wasting 40 k on it. Buy a euro, its a great car long term and is sporty, fast as v6. s2000 seems to be a waste of money when compared to the euro though. Just my opinion. Or is you like you can get the integra type S.

No, no, and no. Im not settling for an integra type-S.

Faiz: I will take all your comments into consideration and not be fooled by the convertible factor. But I cant deny that I am very much persuaded by it at the moment. *exhilarating*!!

thanks for your inputs.

weren't we trying to convince Faiz about his Euro as well not long ago :)

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Originally Posted by Faiz

Its fast as a v6 car! Luxury at the standard of mercedes and lexus! Handling is awesome!

Go for the euro manual!
I recomend it!

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It's not as fast as all V6's and it's no where near the quality of Mercedes, I assure you that. I went to test a C180K before getting the Euro, and I can tell you that the Merc (and even Audi) build cars like a tank. No wind noise on freeway, absolute comfort (like sitting on your favourite couch) and pure style. Sorry to say, those cars are in a class of it's own in terms of luxury. However, the Euro wins on features and has above average comfort for an excellent price.

Faiz you are trying to force your opinion on the lad a bit much there! :P Remember mate you must decide what is right in your situation. As many have said both cars serve different needs. S2k is an absolutely awesome convertible NA beast, whilst the euro just oozes class. Whatever you choose though, you have made a wise choice. Both cars are gorgeous :)

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Originally Posted by Slugoid

It's not as fast as all V6's and it's no where near the quality of Mercedes, I assure you that. I went to test a C180K before getting the Euro, and I can tell you that the Merc (and even Audi) build cars like a tank. No wind noise on freeway, absolute comfort (like sitting on your favourite couch) and pure style. Sorry to say, those cars are in a class of it's own in terms of luxury. However, the Euro wins on features and has above average comfort for an excellent price.

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Really how many 40 k cars have heated seats?? stability control, traction control??? The level of equipment in the euro is compareable to a bmw or a lexus. May be not mercedes or audi but you get the point. Its good value for money. By all means if i were to get a car between those two, i would get euro manual, i do regret why i got the auto euro because the manual euro is very quicker nearly 3 seconds. Not saying the auto is slow, its as fast as camry v6 auto, passat v6 auto, mitsubishi v6 auto. Euto is good value for money especially when you compare it to a s2000. Yes s2000 is has more power etc but i would never buy a second hand old one. May be its just my opinion. If you really want a sporty car that bad, get the type S.

That is all

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Originally Posted by Slugoid

However, the Euro wins on features and has above average comfort for an excellent price.

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:rolleyes:

Buy both, dillema solved :D

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Originally Posted by Slugoid

It's not as fast as all V6's and it's no where near the quality of Mercedes, I assure you that. I went to test a C180K before getting the Euro, and I can tell you that the Merc (and even Audi) build cars like a tank. No wind noise on freeway, absolute comfort (like sitting on your favourite couch) and pure style. Sorry to say, those cars are in a class of it's own in terms of luxury. However, the Euro wins on features and has above average comfort for an excellent price.

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Though you might think merc has good build quality, I have to disagree...The C class is made in South Africa and the fit and finish just isn't as good as the previous generation. However I do concede that the Audi has good quality. However, the TSX(Euro) was designed to compete in the segment of near luxury cars ie 3 series, c class base models, and it is built in Japan for the European market as well as USDM and JDM, I think a lot of effort has gone into this car...

When I compare the C180K and the Euro Luxury I find the equipment levels similar, and what's more, the Euro betters the C180K in offering a sunroof and heated seats + hids as standard in the luxury model for much less. What Mercedes has is class kudos and style, but I would not go so far as to say that the quality of the euro is "No where" near the quality of a merc c180k, I know because I nearly bought 1...


Also, CONAN(is that frm detective conan??), I reckon the choice you have to make about the cars is not a hard choice, they are 2 totally different classes of cars altogether, most ppl would be deciding between an S2k and an MX5 or an euro and a liberty... You'd be happy with either, but in the long run an euro would be less painful to own as you will have less hassles and inconveniences of a small convertible.. Sure it will be nice to own it but how long before you get over it? (probably 6 mths)...

SeraphimX: Its CONAN as in He-Man, old action movie played by Arnold Schwarzneggar. Well, I'm 70% sure it will be the S2K. Still looking for a white one, is there any out there!!

I'm really starting to like the DC5R, in white. Blah!
when your looking for a car, anything goes!!!

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Originally Posted by CONAN

SeraphimX: Its CONAN as in He-Man, old action movie played by Arnold Schwarzneggar. Well, I'm 70% sure it will be the S2K. Still looking for a white one, is there any out there!!

I'm really starting to like the DC5R, in white. Blah!
when your looking for a car, anything goes!!!

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You could end up in an echo O.o

There is sooo many more modifications out there for the S2K, You can get them with about 40,000kms on the clock for about $40K. They have all ready lost their depreciation and shouldn't go down much more at all. They might go up again in price when they stop making them. This would never happen with the Euro, it is not an exclusive car. The S2K ia a much better car for the money. Go the S2000.

A NSX might be had for around $60,000. Ever drempt of owning one of those?

I will never own an AUDI, buckets of crap. My bro had one and it cost him big time. Allways something going wrong. Merc's are heavy pieces of poo. BMW's are great in my eye's.

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Originally Posted by Faiz

Really how many 40 k cars have heated seats?? stability control, traction control??? The level of equipment in the euro is compareable to a bmw or a lexus. May be not mercedes or audi but you get the point. Its good value for money. By all means if i were to get a car between those two, i would get euro manual, i do regret why i got the auto euro because the manual euro is very quicker nearly 3 seconds. Not saying the auto is slow, its as fast as camry v6 auto, passat v6 auto, mitsubishi v6 auto. Euto is good value for money especially when you compare it to a s2000. Yes s2000 is has more power etc but i would never buy a second hand old one. May be its just my opinion. If you really want a sporty car that bad, get the type S.

That is all

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your the last person that should be giving advice, next minute you know you change his mind to get an auto cause it's faster :D
should of taken your own advice and got a manual Euro as well :p

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Originally Posted by Catcha

your the last person that should be giving advice, next minute you know you change his mind to get an auto cause it's faster :D
should of taken your own advice and got a manual Euro as well :p

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Great advice. I'm taking your advice Type R Positive about the depreciation value with the S2000s. You just made my day when you said that! haha.

There seems to be only one white S2000 for sale up in sydney/act. It's an '01 model, red leather, 17" BSA wheels, and with 70,000kms. Asking price is $46,990. I gave him a ring and sussed out a few answers. Apparantely this car has been for sale now for the last 6months or so? Can anyone confirm this? I was also emailed some photos and the exterior looked great, but the interior wasn't really what I expected. Leather was stratched and bit worn, carpet looked dirty. He could not tell me who the previous owner was, age wise that was.

Would you consider 71,000kms on a 2001 model slighty high?? Redbook says 45-55k is average. I'm looking forward to buying an S with say 30k on it!

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Originally Posted by CONAN

Great advice. I'm taking your advice Type R Positive about the depreciation value with the S2000s. You just made my day when you said that! haha.

There seems to be only one white S2000 for sale up in sydney/act. It's an '01 model, red leather, 17" BSA wheels, and with 70,000kms. Asking price is $46,990. I gave him a ring and sussed out a few answers. Apparantely this car has been for sale now for the last 6months or so? Can anyone confirm this? I was also emailed some photos and the exterior looked great, but the interior wasn't really what I expected. Leather was stratched and bit worn, carpet looked dirty. He could not tell me who the previous owner was, age wise that was.

Would you consider 71,000kms on a 2001 model slighty high?? Redbook says 45-55k is average. I'm looking forward to buying an S with say 30k on it!

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If it looks suss give it a miss sure they will be others on the market and in other states........don't want to buy into another persons problems

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Originally Posted by Type R Positive

I will never own an AUDI, buckets of crap. My bro had one and it cost him big time. Allways something going wrong. Merc's are heavy pieces of poo. BMW's are great in my eye's.

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Can't really judge a car based on one bad experience. According to the J.D Powers survey, BMW isn't all that reliable either.

Thanks toE for your p.m!

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Originally Posted by coladuna

Can't really judge a car based on one bad experience. According to the J.D Powers survey, BMW isn't all that reliable either.

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BMW are far more reliable than Audi. I see too many Audi's with lots of trouble, not just my bro's. He upgraded to a Lancer. There are so many E30's still getting around, they are a great car.

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Originally Posted by CONAN

Thanks toE for your p.m!

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No worries.
Was that the one u saw?
The high price could be because it's a rare GPW(Grand Prix White) with red leather interior.
Carpet being dirty and stretch/worn leather is usually attributed to wear and tear, so I wouldn't think much of it, unless u're a fussy bugger :p
What you should be more worried about are the mechanicals ;)

But, good luck with it. :)

Interesting thread...

For the past couple of months I've been asking myself the same questions but my choice is between an S2000 and a brand new Subaru Liberty GT. I already have a run around car so the S2000 would be a weekend car whereas if I buy the Liberty I can ditch the run around and just have one car. Tough choice but I'm leaning towards the S2000 because I get bored of cars pretty easily and the Liberty will probably seem boring pretty quickly. The new car factor is a big issue however.

What I will say though is that at least these cars a similar power to weight wise. I think after driving an S2000 an Accord would seem a little slow.. One and a half seconds to 100kmph is a big difference. Thats like comparing a WRX to a Commodore V6.

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Originally Posted by Type R Positive

BMW are far more reliable than Audi. I see too many Audi's with lots of trouble, not just my bro's. He upgraded to a Lancer. There are so many E30's still getting around, they are a great car.

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Once again, the sample size of J.D. Powers survey is far greater than your observations here and there.

Convertibles are always difficult to sell later down the track.
I wouldn't get one.

Just went go-karting today at Eastern Creek. Went for the 9hp carts (the lowest one other than the Junior 6hp), and then after that, got back into my Euro 6MT. The Euro has less acceleration than the 9hp cart.... OMG. hHehhe... Fun.

My dad has an S2000 nad my mum drives a Euro

I have driven both of them.

Give me the keys to the S2K anyday for the following reasons:
1) rear wheel drive
2) shit load more power, with a sweetass engine note
3) it is CONVERTIBLE! :D

I guess it is up to the person behind the wheel. It depends why you drive a car.
The S2000 simulates the racing feel with the short throw box and the 9000 RPM redline. The Euro is obvioulsy more for the luxury. At the end of the day, you will get more looks in the 2000. :thumbsup: