Just got my first Honda Civic VTec SOHC B16Y

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14-11-2004, 12:51 AM
Lukezen27

Just got my first Honda Civic VTec SOHC D16Y

Hi guys,
This is my first post :)

I'm a VTec Noob :wave:

OK from what I can gather I've got a VTec SOHC D16Y Engine

I have a 1993 built 1994 compliance Honda Civic 3D hatchback 93k on the clock

If I’m wrong plz let me know as l only started reading about this stuff tonight

OK what’s the cheapest way go get more power if any?

i.e after market ECU maybe but costly right?

How much more power dose an after market ECU give anyway?

Thx LukeZen
14-11-2004, 01:03 AM
bennjamin

the car u have must be a " d16y*" SOHC vtec . . . good for 96kw.
The cheapest mods to get any "power" woudl be this - Intake , exhaust and timing . Please research more - IE search this website too !

Welcome BTW.
14-11-2004, 01:04 AM
Chi

no such thing as B16y1 lol :wave:
Its D16Y1 and i assume ur car is a VTi.
At least you called it VTEC and not V-TEC :thumbsup:

Anyways congrats to ur new rides.!! :D

BTW your engine isnt a real performer, more towards fuel enconomy.

So a ECU wouldnt be worth while to purchase unless u boost it :D
14-11-2004, 01:06 AM
SeraphimX

93k?!!? dude!! thats nuts low...are you sure the kms a gen-u-wine?

Basic Cheapest way to get more power = Air Filter + full Exhaust
I'd go aftermarket ecu only after I change those

Have fun..
14-11-2004, 01:09 AM
SeraphimX

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chi

no such thing as B16y1 lol :wave:
Its D16Y1 and i assume ur car is a VTi.
At least you called it VTEC and not V-TEC :thumbsup:

Anyways congrats to ur new rides.!! :D

BTW your engine isnt a real performer, more towards fuel enconomy.

So a ECU wouldnt be worth while to purchase unless u boost it :D

oo so its a VTi, maybe swap in a b18a?? that will give you the most power gain for your buck...i think, cos you already have most of the running gear ie its not carby so can just swap right in right?
14-11-2004, 01:10 AM
vtc

Let me be the first to welcome you to this forum. Lots of great information on this website.

First.. update your profile to show where you are, there are alot of EG (what generation of car you have) drivers from each state that are willing to help you out and even meet up for a cruise.

2nd. spell CIVIC right in your profile! that could be a start.

3rd. People hate having to repeat themselves on any forum so its strongly advised that use the search function on this website to find the information you are looking for becasue it has been covered before.

4th. It really sounds to me you have no idea about your car at all, so i dont think you should be comtemplating modifying it. JUST yet.

and lastly.. SEARCH, READ, SEARCH, READ... thats the only way your going to learn anything and trust me your goiing to benefit in the future because you dont waste your money.

But welcome to the forum.. just try starting with a search on what car you actually have. Can be as simple as Civic Vti. But i can you that the engine code you have is either a once off from Honda or they simply do not exsist. Btw your engine code should start with D, and someone with an eg will tell you what it is soon.

WELCOME and ENJOY
14-11-2004, 01:11 AM
vtc

Well never mind about being the first.. i just type slow... :)
14-11-2004, 01:32 AM
Lukezen27

Thx guys,

Yup I’ve searched this site for a few hours already that how I cam up with my info

This post was mainly to clarify what model I have

Quote:

Originally Posted by SeraphimX

93k?!!? dude!! thats nuts low...are you sure the kms a gen-u-wine?

Basic Cheapest way to get more power = Air Filter + full Exhaust
I'd go aftermarket ecu only after I change those

Have fun..

Yup full service History and all :D

Oop’s Civic is now spelt right heheh

As for “”BTW your engine isn’t a real performer””

I thought the VTec’s were good performers that why I go it plus the shape rocks

Cheer’s Luke
14-11-2004, 01:41 AM
bennjamin

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lukezen27

I thought the VTec’s were good performers that why I go it plus I the shape rocks...

As a newcomer - PLEASE do not get the impression that you need an camshaft configuration acronym written on your camcover to be "accepted" and FASST. :rolleyes:

Vtec SOHC non-btec whatever...its the DRIVER not the car :)

BTW i love the lil EG shape too :)
14-11-2004, 01:59 AM
Lukezen27

Quote:

Originally Posted by bennjamin

As a newcomer - PLEASE do not get the impression that you need an camshaft configuration acronym written on your camcover to be "accepted" and FASST. :rolleyes:

Vtec SOHC non-btec whatever...its the DRIVER not the car :)

BTW i love the lil EG shape too :)

lol the driver hay hm

I'll take that :D

So what dose EG stand for anyway? Egg shappe heheh
14-11-2004, 09:13 AM
aimre

lukezen: Just wondering how much u got it for... if u dont ,mind me askin. i just recently (3 days) bought a vti 4 dr :):)
14-11-2004, 09:56 AM
Chi

Quote:

Originally Posted by bennjamin

As a newcomer - PLEASE do not get the impression that you need an camshaft configuration acronym written on your camcover to be "accepted" and FASST. :rolleyes:

Vtec SOHC non-btec whatever...its the DRIVER not the car :)

LOL, in other words you shoulda got a Si / D16a engine :D
14-11-2004, 10:07 AM
Lukezen27

Quote:

Originally Posted by aimre

lukezen: Just wondering how much u got it for... if u dont ,mind me askin. i just recently (3 days) bought a vti 4 dr :):)

$9500 dude

Good or bad?
14-11-2004, 10:07 AM
HRV-80Y

any honda is a good honda ! evn mine = ]
14-11-2004, 10:13 AM
Lukezen27

lol yeah :)

I when for very low K's and a bit faded paint over high K's and good paint

I’ll see how she buff’s out before going down the re-spry road
14-11-2004, 10:23 AM
[[d a n n y]]

Quote:

Originally Posted by SeraphimX

oo so its a VTi, maybe swap in a b18a?? that will give you the most power gain for your buck...i think, cos you already have most of the running gear ie its not carby so can just swap right in right?

b18a?
u mean b16a or b18c?
14-11-2004, 10:30 AM
Lukezen27

Quote:

Originally Posted by [[d a n n y]]

b18a?
u mean b16a or b18c?

So these b16a or b18c are DOCH in stead of SOHC right?

is that the only Diff?

Sorry to be a noob
14-11-2004, 10:47 AM
McChook

Quote:

Originally Posted by SeraphimX

oo so its a VTi, maybe swap in a b18a?? that will give you the most power gain for your buck...i think, cos you already have most of the running gear ie its not carby so can just swap right in right?

B18a?? From a DA integra, circa 1990, 108kw...
Well, yeah, more power fo you.....

I suspect you mean a B18C - 1.8 DOHC VTEC from DC series VTiR integra - sure, go for it -the conversion packages are few and far between - infact, they are almost impossible to find. Same goes for the Type R engine conversion packs - almost non existant at the moment

The only place I think you will find a B18C conversion would be Good Performance Centre.... Hontoys if you're lucky
14-11-2004, 10:54 AM
Weq

welcome make sure the timing belt has been done, and ur almost at clutch time also. if thesehave already been taken car of its was a decent deal pending condition of interior :)
14-11-2004, 10:55 AM
Lukezen27

Quote:

Originally Posted by McChook

B18a?? From a DA integra, circa 1990, 108kw...
Well, yeah, more power fo you.....

I suspect you mean a B18C - 1.8 DOHC VTEC from DC series VTiR integra - sure, go for it -the conversion packages are few and far between - infact, they are almost impossible to find. Same goes for the Type R engine conversion packs - almost non existant at the moment

The only place I think you will find a B18C conversion would be Good Performance Centre.... Hontoys if you're lucky

Nan was thinking of the DOHC ver of my car B16A?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Weq

welcome make sure the timing belt has been done, and ur almost at clutch time also. if thesehave already been taken car of its was a decent deal pending condition of interior :)

interior is very good apart from a Cig burn on the back seat

Dam smokers :thumbdwn:
14-11-2004, 12:02 PM
McChook

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lukezen27

Nan was thinking of the DOHC ver of my car B16A?

D16a - has 96kw as well, but (personally) I think it is a much nicer engine - found in the Si civics. However, ebing oder, they are often with higher kms....
14-11-2004, 12:12 PM
Lukezen27

Quote:

Originally Posted by McChook

D16a - has 96kw as well, but (personally) I think it is a much nicer engine - found in the Si civics. However, ebing oder, they are often with higher kms....

Cool man,

this being my first VTec I think I'll see how far she can go for now :)

I did a seach for after Market ECU and found 0 Wtf?

Also I got I price on tuned length extractors and flow through exhaust

$960 fitted

2” Stainless, seams way to low to me?
14-11-2004, 01:24 PM
SeraphimX

Quote:

Originally Posted by [[d a n n y]]

b18a?
u mean b16a or b18c?

I'm a noob to honda engines mine is 2zz-ge dohc vvtl! hehe, but I was wondering which one is the vtir engine?? are both the hand built type r engine and the vtir engine b18c?? cos i had the vtir in mind when i said b18a
14-11-2004, 01:27 PM
SeraphimX

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lukezen27

$9500 dude

Good or bad?

9500 seems a bit pricey, but I'm not sure how to value the low kms...my friend found a 94 vti with 151ks for 6500
14-11-2004, 01:43 PM
Lukezen27

Quote:

Originally Posted by SeraphimX

9500 seems a bit pricey, but I'm not sure how to value the low kms...my friend found a 94 vti with 151ks for 6500

I pay that coze if low K's and its stock right down to the tape deck :)

If figure there’s no way it will have been thrashed :o

Im lookking at getting this

http://www.alldayperformance.com.au/prod733.htm

what do you think?
14-11-2004, 01:46 PM
Chi

Depnding on how u set it up, it may make u lose power, than gaining it.

I suggest u research more, you seem ot randomly wanting to get many parts at impulse.
14-11-2004, 01:49 PM
Lukezen27

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chi

Depnding on how u set it up, it may make u lose power, than gaining it.

I suggest u research more, you seem ot randomly wanting to get many parts at impulse.

Hm I thought the first thing everyone did was get new Air Intake?
14-11-2004, 03:21 PM
SeraphimX

well now the brand of air intake and the type of air intake matters too...

since we are driving NA, just changing the filter won't do jack, you need at least a short ram, or better still a Cold Air Induction kit, and that being said, different brands costs vary as well as their performance, you really need to do some research and thinking otherwise you could be making some costly mistakes... and of course there's the slight possibility of losing power inthe case of getting exhaust (too big and you lose power because of compression or somthing like that)

I don't think you'd be wanting to change/swap the engine tho, the premium you paid for the low kms makes it unviable (ie if you wanted the swap it you'd have bought a thrashed one for like 4k, threw out the engine, spend another 4k swapping a b18 in)
14-11-2004, 03:43 PM
Lukezen27

Quote:

Originally Posted by SeraphimX

well now the brand of air intake and the type of air intake matters too...

since we are driving NA, just changing the filter won't do jack, you need at least a short ram, or better still a Cold Air Induction kit, and that being said, different brands costs vary as well as their performance, you really need to do some research and thinking otherwise you could be making some costly mistakes... and of course there's the slight possibility of losing power inthe case of getting exhaust (too big and you lose power because of compression or somthing like that)

I don't think you'd be wanting to change/swap the engine tho, the premium you paid for the low kms makes it unviable (ie if you wanted the swap it you'd have bought a thrashed one for like 4k, threw out the engine, spend another 4k swapping a b18 in)

Yeah Im keeping this engine for a few years or till I kill it :D

But the above link is a Cold Air Induction kit including a filter

As for the exhaust compression 2" is about right from what i've read so far?
14-11-2004, 04:47 PM
Weq

get 2.25"

seach for jords car. that sohc vtec he has goes hard! btw, try redefining ur searches - opening up the search criteria. try a search for 'ecu' 'exhaust size' and 'td04' u will get alot more hits.
14-11-2004, 05:13 PM
Lukezen27

Quote:

Originally Posted by Weq

get 2.25"

seach for jords car. that sohc vtec he has goes hard! btw, try redefining ur searches - opening up the search criteria. try a search for 'ecu' 'exhaust size' and 'td04' u will get alot more hits.

lol yeah my search are sucking

There coming up with jack :(

I'll give it a go
14-11-2004, 09:52 PM
SeraphimX

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lukezen27

Yeah Im keeping this engine for a few years or till I kill it :D

But the above link is a Cold Air Induction kit including a filter

As for the exhaust compression 2" is about right from what i've read so far?

That looks more like a short ram but i may be wrong, a CAI usually extends to the bottom of the car, it is exposed to open air, not in the engine bay..
14-11-2004, 10:21 PM
Lukezen27

Quote:

Originally Posted by SeraphimX

That looks more like a short ram but i may be wrong, a CAI usually extends to the bottom of the car, it is exposed to open air, not in the engine bay..

Not to sure, I’m a noob remember
15-11-2004, 07:28 PM
aimre

i got my 93 vti wih 66,ooo ks for $6k

im acualte interfior... tho bumper need respray
15-11-2004, 07:35 PM
Lukezen27

Quote:

Originally Posted by aimre

i got my 93 vti wih 66,ooo ks for $6k

im acualte interfior... tho bumper need respray

Show off :wave:

I had to go down the Finance road so what can you do

Hatchback?
16-11-2004, 03:33 AM
SeraphimX

how the heck do you guys find such cheap low k examples??? my fren looking for one, and I prolly might buy 1 too for going fishing :)
16-11-2004, 05:48 PM
Lukezen27

Quote:

Originally Posted by SeraphimX

how the heck do you guys find such cheap low k examples??? my fren looking for one, and I prolly might buy 1 too for going fishing :)

I looked round for about 2 months till one turned up :D

I paid a bit more than I wanted to but I think its worth knowing its not thrashed

LukeZen
16-11-2004, 09:58 PM
aimre

naaa 4dr.... took 1 yr to find..... hed to drive my EF with 324,000 ks on it.

it was owned by a female judge.. and judging the the radio pre-set (abc classic fm) and the tapes she left under the seat (all clasical) i dont think she thrashed the car.
Full logbooks. always serviced by dealer
16-11-2004, 11:28 PM
Weq

Have a look at my thread. i think u will find K's dont matter when ur under 200k, its the amount of care taken in servicing and running it that makes the difference. if my mum and sister are the judge of anything, they think 10-15k services are as good as it gets and the only time the bonnet needs opening.
17-11-2004, 05:43 PM
Lukezen27

Quote:

Originally Posted by Weq

Have a look at my thread. i think u will find K's dont matter when ur under 200k, its the amount of care taken in servicing and running it that makes the difference. if my mum and sister are the judge of anything, they think 10-15k services are as good as it gets and the only time the bonnet needs opening.

lol Weq,

All my cars get 5k servicing and my Mum doesn’t even have a license :rolleyes:

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