EG Civic JDM D15B install by me

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12-10-2009, 08:58 PM
chowdaa

EG Civic JDM D15B install by me

My first honda conversion and pretty proud of how neatly it came together. This is a small guideline and should not be put to practice unless you have proper electrical knowledge and other reliable system information:)

All the mechanical was easy and everyone knows how to.

Wiring D15B Vtec into an EG Breeze using a EFI civic harness

Shock tower plugs on drivers side is plug n play besides from the Blu/Yel or Grn/Wht but that is mentioned further down.
Shock tower plugs on the passengers side has to be separated from the rest of the car body harness and comes out going from shock tower plugs to ECU plugs and with some random inputs and outputs needed to be wired. The inputs and outputs I wired into a spare 20-pin plug which I had spare from the harness so then the harness can be separated.
A gauge cluster from any EFI EG civic will fit, as you need to the tacho and fuel warning.
The speedo/odometer and SRS airbag light can be swapped to the new EFI cluster held by screws/clips.

New wires to be run-
· IACV (Blu/Yel or Grn/Wht) needs to be wired in from grey plug under RHF dash (coming from shock tower) to A9.
· Start signal from clear plug behind the fuse box to B9
· MIL is to be wired in from grey plug above fuse box to A13
· FLR-A7 and IGP2-A25 to fuel pump relay switching coil
· Fuel pump to fuel pump relay.
· The EFI engine bay fuse box is direct bolt on and comes with a handy electrical load detector which sends out about 4.5v when headlights or demister is switched on to idle up.
· ELD from the engine bay fuse box to ECU (3 wires), Blk/Yel to ignition, Black to ground, Grn/Red to D10.
· Tacho not doesn’t need to be wired, plug and play.
· Fuel warning light can be wired in if you are using an EFI tank as it has the 3rd pin (Grn/yel) at the sender to red plug above the cabin fuse box (Grn/Red) to cluster.

Wires already located in the harness of the old ECU-(there are a lot of wires there which lead to believe that you don’t need to run new wires but they don’t go ANYWHERE)
· D1 - B+ - Wht/Blu
· D2 – IGN – Blk/Yel
· D8 – A/C Switch – Blu/Red
· D9 – VSS – Yel/Blu
· D22 – Brake light – Grn/Wht
· B2 – GND – Blk
· B9 – A/c Relay – Blk/Red
· B10 – Fan – Yel/Red
these have been tested and work for me.

Wires to be switched-
· Vtec pressure switch - Passengers side shock tower 14pin plug - org/blk to blank space on the side. Then A6 to D6, pins are different in size so a spare plug with smaller pins is needed wire into D6.

Trouble I ran into-
· Coolant temp sensor – Bringing on engine light and high idle. Found temp sensor resistance to be 800ohms. Should be 200-400ohms, replaced with sensor from old carby motor with resistance of 250ohms. Worked a treat.
· Idle still very high (1500) – The previous owner had the fast idle screw all the way out. Then set timing after to red marking on crank with engine in service mode.

Nifty facts
· Best to change engine + gearbox oil, plugs, timing belt, tensioner, water pump if your keen, THROW OUT BEARING.
· Check gearbox fluid level!!
· Exhaust won’t bolt up – Simply use the old carby manifold and exhaust. Not that good performance wise but quiet asJ ensuring you swap the O2 sensor.
· Fuel lines – I went through the trouble getting the lines from the EFI car. But the carby lines are identical. But the vent and return is to switched, feed is normal old 5/16”. The return is then the next size down then the tank vent to charcoal canister is the smallest.
· THE TANK FROM A HATCH AND SEDAN WILL BOLT UP TO THE HATCHBACK BREEZE (remember to get the plugs).
· Intake bellow and air box can be used from almost any EG EFI civic.
· A hole is to be cut to accommodate the air box as the feed is in a different location to the old carby. But I just rigged up a temporary one J

This is the old motor
http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n...a/Oldmotor.jpg
This is engine from a Dennis and purchased by Thoa and installed by yours truly
http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n...wdaa/Motor.jpg
EFI tank-notice when both EFI and carby tanks are side by side the carby tank can't simply bolt in a pump as there is no hole.
http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n81/chowdaa/Tank.jpg
Wiring went from this unmarked, stripped rat's nest
http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n...wdaa/Loom3.jpg
to this sorted and labeled rat's nest
http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n...wdaa/Loom4.jpg
to this neat separable engine loom with diagnosis connector and fuel pump switching inputs.
http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n...wdaa/Loom1.jpg
this is the plug I've utilised for the cars inputs and outputs.
http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n...wdaa/Loom2.jpg
THE FINAL PRODUCT
http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n81/chowdaa/EG2.jpg
http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n...wdaa/EG3-1.jpg
http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n81/chowdaa/EG1.jpg
thanks for reading.
12-10-2009, 09:02 PM
90LAN

good work mate

good example of how much work is need to do carby to efi conversion
12-10-2009, 09:14 PM
chowdaa

thanks man, forgot to include my retrofitted air box/filter. pk screwed the filter to the top half of the box. looks legit to the untrained eye
http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n81/chowdaa/EG4.jpg
12-10-2009, 09:17 PM
sPoOnD_

wat does it go like? been looing into the D15B's
12-10-2009, 09:18 PM
SuiJin

why would you put a d15b when d16y1 is same price or even less.
12-10-2009, 09:18 PM
90LAN

same power as a d16 vtec
130 hp but 1.5lt

some jdm d15b boxes have lsd too
13-10-2009, 11:33 AM
Webby_roller

Nice work man.. I had the JDM D15b in my old ED6.. was the best little motor for toying around... cheap to run aswell... they sound crazy when your really getting up into the limiter :)
13-10-2009, 11:40 AM
SuiJin

Quote:

Originally Posted by 90LAN

same power as a d16 vtec
130 hp but 1.5lt

some jdm d15b boxes have lsd too

nice, price comparison?
13-10-2009, 01:32 PM
jspec civic

dats my old motor from my eg8 ferio...lol
13-10-2009, 01:35 PM
jspec civic

did you buy that motor from a green sedan..sold to a bloke and he sold it to the guy that you bought it from..
13-10-2009, 03:47 PM
90LAN

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuiJin

nice, price comparison?

500-800 bucks
13-10-2009, 06:26 PM
chowdaa

i did buy it from a guy with a green sedan, got the whole car for 400 so all thats needed to set up the breeze (tank, box, wiring, spares). cheap and fun. considering wreckers wanted 370 for a used d15z2 long block carby motor cus the old one was rooted. The motor is very zippy and i like noise:) will post up cluster soon.
13-10-2009, 07:32 PM
dougie_504

Fantastic work man. I wish I had your talent. At least we have the same rims :D though mine are 17's I think your's look a little smaller and my civic's an EH
13-10-2009, 09:01 PM
chowdaa

o and just another thing, d16y1 not for me, so run of the mill, yeah have same hp, but i am also keeping the cubic capacity, fuel efficiency is much more, cheaper to get for me, apparently more aggressive cams and the shock tower plugs are the the same with the old d15 :p. just better..
13-10-2009, 10:25 PM
dougie_504

Quote:

Originally Posted by chowdaa

well done, you are awesome

O and by the way dougie they're 17 but the pictures from my phone aren't great, sorry.

Ah ok, couldn't figure if they were 16 or 17. Maybe mine just sit a little lower or something - they're rubbing atm :(

Again, nice work. I'm jealous of your ability :)
14-10-2009, 04:52 PM
jdm_b16a

Upgrade?

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuiJin

hmm my d16y1 + ecu + box was 200 in working condition

Fook, that's a good price. You scored bigtime!

Quote:

Originally Posted by chowdaa

My first honda conversion and pretty proud of how neatly it came together.

Nice job on the conversion too. Did you say what ECU you used? Maybe I missed it. So you had to wire up VTEC separately? Did you use a non VTEC EG harness, that's why you had to wire up separately?

Peter
14-10-2009, 07:27 PM
chowdaa

Thanks heaps guys, i am running a p08 ecu, the harness was from a different vtec i think cus it had the vtec solenoid output but just no pressure switch input and the d15B didn't have a 5wire 02 sensor which is the wire i used for my pressure switch.

If anyone has any questions, please dont hesitate to ask
14-10-2009, 11:33 PM
G-Stick

nice work :thumbsup:

but with the efi conversion, cant u just get the complete interior harness and change it over with the swap?
15-10-2009, 06:40 AM
chowdaa

Thanks

i was unsure if i could swap, plus it seemed easier at the time cus i would have had to remove the evaporator + heater box to remove and install harness. so now i have a fully separable harness.

http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n...a/Image001.jpg
after a wash and again with a terrible camera sorry guys
18-10-2009, 05:01 PM
chowdaa

http://i110.photobucket.com/albums/n...aa/Cluster.jpg

front case clips off, 4 screws behind the speedo and falls right out. just to keep my awesome kms ;)
04-11-2010, 08:40 AM
xclusive_eg8

lol that candy green ripped apart civic sedan has been around by the sounds of things... I went and seen it but more for the car body which was way to much work