Scratched CU2 - Panel beater recommendations

Evening all,

*sigh* soo sooo depressed atm. After having such a wonderful day the CU2 got scratched :(

The scratches are located on the rear bumper bar on the driver side. They're not deep just purely cosmetic and upon inspection i believe it can be fixed by a sand down and a respray.

Can anyone recommend a decent panel beater/painter around Western sydney and a rough estimate (if possible) of how much it may cost? The scratches result from a mild collision to a wooden pole while reversing. No dents just scratches.

Considering taking it to Trivett Honda in Blacktown as it is closest to home but just wondering on other peoples recommendations.

Thanks in advance guys.

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Originally Posted by dj_s2k

Evening all,

*sigh* soo sooo depressed atm. After having such a wonderful day the CU2 got scratched :(

The scratches are located on the rear bumper bar on the driver side. They're not deep just purely cosmetic and upon inspection i believe it can be fixed by a sand down and a respray.

Can anyone recommend a decent panel beater/painter around Western sydney and a rough estimate (if possible) of how much it may cost? The scratches result from a mild collision to a wooden pole while reversing. No dents just scratches.

Considering taking it to Trivett Honda in Blacktown as it is closest to home but just wondering on other peoples recommendations.

Thanks in advance guys.

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Sorry to hear that man.

But when you say not deep, what do you mean exactly?
Through the clearcoat or through paint as well?

IMO, I dont think its worth repairing if its a small scratch.
If you take it to a panel beater they'll either:
1.) Sand area and respray section only ~ Couple hundred $
2.) Respray whole rear bar ~ Few hundred $

Touch-up paint not an option?
If you want you really want to fix it, dont take it to the Honda dealer, they'll just recommend whoever they have business alliances with.
I know a decent panel beater but they're in the inner-west area.
PM me if you want their details.

I've used these people in Rydalmere, they're very good:

http://www.prestigeautosalon.com.au/

I know that these guys do a fair bit of dealer work, and detailing for car launches etc.

If you're lucky and the scratch is small enough that it doesn't really catch your fingernail, the scratch may not have penetrated the clear coat, and it might be possible to repair without respray. But if you hit a pole, it's more likely you'd need to respray the bar.

Good luck,

- HZ

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Originally Posted by dj_s2k

Evening all,

*sigh* soo sooo depressed atm. After having such a wonderful day the CU2 got scratched :(

The scratches are located on the rear bumper bar on the driver side. They're not deep just purely cosmetic and upon inspection i believe it can be fixed by a sand down and a respray.

Can anyone recommend a decent panel beater/painter around Western sydney and a rough estimate (if possible) of how much it may cost? The scratches result from a mild collision to a wooden pole while reversing. No dents just scratches.

Considering taking it to Trivett Honda in Blacktown as it is closest to home but just wondering on other peoples recommendations.

Thanks in advance guys.

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Maybe a polish will fix them, if they are not that deep. Post some pics

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Originally Posted by BatRambo

Maybe a polish will fix them, if they are not that deep. Post some pics

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Agreed.Post pics.If it's only minor those mobile bumper repair guys will be able to fix it at reasonable cost($150.00 approx)

Thanx for all the input guys. I'll grab a couple of quotes from the places that you guys have mentioned and some others that i've been getting from other people. So far 1 quote from mobile bumper repair guy at $250.

A polish is not going to fix it as it has cut right into the paint :'(

There are basically three areas on the bumper where it is scratched.

First area: Basically middle of the bumper (just above my tow bar) and it has cut right into the paint and is roughly 5cmx10cm.

Second area: To the driver side. minor scratching and once again cut into the paint. roughly 2cmx5cm.

Third area: Just on the corner of the bumper on driver side. 2 small scratches. Approximately 1cmx3cm each.

I'll post some pics up this weekend once i've given the car a good wash and maybe a closer look at the extent of the damage.

So you can compare... my scratch here - $700 at a panel beaters :(.

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Originally Posted by dj_s2k

Thanx for all the input guys. I'll grab a couple of quotes from the places that you guys have mentioned and some others that i've been getting from other people. So far 1 quote from mobile bumper repair guy at $250.

A polish is not going to fix it as it has cut right into the paint :'(

There are basically three areas on the bumper where it is scratched.

First area: Basically middle of the bumper (just above my tow bar) and it has cut right into the paint and is roughly 5cmx10cm.

Second area: To the driver side. minor scratching and once again cut into the paint. roughly 2cmx5cm.

Third area: Just on the corner of the bumper on driver side. 2 small scratches. Approximately 1cmx3cm each.

I'll post some pics up this weekend once i've given the car a good wash and maybe a closer look at the extent of the damage.

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Mate,

If you are going to fix em maybe you can check these guys too: http://www.scratchmagic.com.au/

Just got the link from one of the other posts, dont have any impression from these guys, but try

I wouldn't trust a mobile guy, as the paint should really be done in a booth to keep dust out of the paint layers and get the best results, eg match orange peel. The mobile guy may just use a coloured quick drying paint, and may not use clear coat. The Honda has clear coated 2-stage paint, you want to make sure the repairer uses the same process, which is why it's expensive to fix properly.

- HZ

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Originally Posted by nickxau

So you can compare... my scratch here - $700 at a panel beaters :(.

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That's insane! Did they respray both doors or something? It seems quite excessive for a scratch like that.

I've got an email from the guys BatRambo recommended regarding the painting technique HZ said but dunno if I'm allowed to post it here. Can some moderator advise?

These guys were very helpful and honest but it was also because of what they said that I ended up going to a panel beater :o (due to the particular characteristic of my scratch).

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Originally Posted by Ken-f

That's insane! Did they respray both doors or something? It seems quite excessive for a scratch like that.

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That's what they did alright... a proper job :thumbsup:.

I still curse the f**ker that did that to my car whenever I think about it! :mad:

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Originally Posted by Ken-f

That's insane! Did they respray both doors or something? It seems quite excessive for a scratch like that.

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Yes, they would most likely have had to respray both doors. That can sometimes leave you with doors that don't match the front and rear quarter panels of the car, so it's not unheard of to repaint the entire side of the car.

Due to the paint being clear-coated, it's very hard to spot repair just the area of the scratch, especially if the scratch is deep. If it's not done properly, you'll see where the respray meets the original paint, usually as halos or hazy areas, or the colour won't appear to match, even if the colour layer is the same underneath. They have to 'lose' the edges of the repair, so normally the best way to do that is repaint the entire door.

- HZ

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Originally Posted by nickxau

That's what they did alright... a proper job :thumbsup:.

I still curse the f**ker that did that to my car whenever I think about it! :mad:

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x2 ;)

lol remmeber my scratch back when i first got the car

4 cm deep graze. entire paint stripped off, 30cm long and bent the bottom side skirt in completely.

covered it with touch up paint. havent fixed it yet. If ur door scratch cost u $600 to repair i am dreading the day i have to fix mine lol

if u guys were in melb i could have looked after you on painting and panel beating.

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Originally Posted by tenji`

if u guys were in melb i could have looked after you on painting and panel beating.

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Maybe its worthed for them driving to Melbourne :P

Well if your planning a holiday down here then maybe :)

Went for a quote this weekend at a workshop near my area And I've been told that it'll roughly cost $500 to repair and respray. I've also been told that the extent of the damage is actually worse than what I anticipated. To the point that after repairs it's only going to be 80% ok. To do a proper job a new rear bumper will be needed and I've been advised that these bumpers aren't cheap seeing as it will need to be imported in from Japan.

He recommneded just repairs as it will be farrrr to costly to import, respray and fit the bumper. He mentions that only upon close inspection fro
a trained eye will u notice the imperfections after repair. He is talking about the 2 slight dents in the bumper that I did not notice previously.

*sigh* breaks my heart just thinking about the damage to my car :(

What's your insurance excess? Might be worth claiming and getting the new bumper cover.

Not repairing it properly could affect resale value of the car, if it's noticeable.

- HZ

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Originally Posted by HunterZero

What's your insurance excess? Might be worth claiming and getting the new bumper cover.

Not repairing it properly could affect resale value of the car, if it's noticeable.

- HZ

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Off the top of my head i think insurance excess is about $1,500 ??

Not really concerned about the resale value as i don't plan on selling this car anytime soon.

Just not sure whether to go for repair job or new bumper :S

The guy did say that there will be around $1000+ difference between repair and whole new bumper. He did say that if it was a Civic and not the Euro it would've been a cheaper job. Godamnit ! haha

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Originally Posted by dj_s2k

Off the top of my head i think insurance excess is about $1,500 ??

Not really concerned about the resale value as i don't plan on selling this car anytime soon.

Just not sure whether to go for repair job or new bumper :S

The guy did say that there will be around $1000+ difference between repair and whole new bumper. He did say that if it was a Civic and not the Euro it would've been a cheaper job. Godamnit ! haha

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do they replace the side skirt (the stock ones) with the bumper. because if you notice its connected in one long piece. maybe thats why its so expensive.

could you also post pics, im really curious to see how bad it is.

did you know it only costs around $1k (worst case scenario) to import a rear bumper...if you get it done by someone always imports stuff so shipping isnt expensive. then it would cost just around $700-$800

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Originally Posted by furythree

do they replace the side skirt (the stock ones) with the bumper. because if you notice its connected in one long piece. maybe thats why its so expensive.

could you also post pics, im really curious to see how bad it is.

did you know it only costs around $1k (worst case scenario) to import a rear bumper...if you get it done by someone always imports stuff so shipping isnt expensive. then it would cost just around $700-$800

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Haven't had time to take pics. As soon as I'm free I'll take a few quick snaps and load them up.

Any one recommend a place in Melbourne to get my 05 Euro sparyed. Got some scratches on the left side skirt and rear bumber :(

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Originally Posted by hardboiled

Any one recommend a place in Melbourne to get my 05 Euro sparyed. Got some scratches on the left side skirt and rear bumber :(

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where do u live in Mel?
If in East Sub, PM me.

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Originally Posted by by-life

where do u live in Mel?
If in East Sub, PM me.

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PM sent

hi Tenji - got a scratched on my CU2 R/H side mirror

see attached picture
paint= charcoal grey - ?Polished metal metallic, as it was known in Japan ?code = [NH-737M]

would be interested in a quote or how i could be looked after.

would also loved to hear from anyone with similar experience or advice!

http://img812.imageshack.us/i/scratchedsidemirror.jpg

discussed

http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthr...ro-please-HELP

Give Bill a ring,dont have his number on me at the moment,but he is BRILLIANT,and very reasonable.

WWW.dentfix.com.au

Located in Sturt street,South Melbourne just off Kingsway.

He sprayed my Euros bumper after getting reccomended to him here,and he is touching up our Golf tomorrow.

Hi Antony & dr1ft3r

Thx for post. Will consider dentfix Bill*0417 319 855
Rear 282 Sturt St, Sth melb or possibly final inspection from the thread link above!

Once I get it done, will post a pic.
Thx again !

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Originally Posted by EuroJoe

Hi Antony & dr1ft3r

Thx for post. Will consider dentfix Bill*0417 319 855
Rear 282 Sturt St, Sth melb or possibly final inspection from the thread link above!

Once I get it done, will post a pic.
Thx again !

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Looks like a scuff through to the plastic, and it's taken the corner off the plastic. I don't think that Final Inspection do resprays, but they no doubt can put you in touch with a quality painter who can do the job. Since the scratch is only on the mirror it shouldn't be too hard to get fixed 100%.

- HZ

EuroJoe,please post pics up if you can.

Thank you,hope it works out well...

any good panel beaters in sydney? mainly want them for bodykit install and paint (and also touch up dings on my door with the paint they probably have left over)

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Originally Posted by furythree

any good panel beaters in sydney? mainly want them for bodykit install and paint (and also touch up dings on my door with the paint they probably have left over)

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Try Prestige Auto Salon in Rydalmere.

- HZ

are they cheap? the word prestige doesnt sound cheap lol

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Originally Posted by furythree

are they cheap? the word prestige doesnt sound cheap lol

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Well they're not cheap, but they're not more expensive than anywhere else. They specialise in cosmetic and minor spot repairs. They will give you a quote.

They do stock repairs for Honda dealers, so they're familiar with working with them.

- HZ

try paintless dent removal if it's minor scaffs and scraches. Cost way less than a actual panel beater for those minor stuff... and the best part is they come to you.

Sigh, my week old CU2 got scratched after getting it tinted at tinting place. I reckon it's an accident at the tinting place. Initially the guys did not admit but gave in and told me to get a quote and they will sort it out with insurance.

Just brought it to panel beater and quite a bit of job, for some small scratches. They have to respray the rear passenger door. The whole wheel arch and side column as well as remove bumper and respray.
I have attached the pictures except the one on the bumper, which is similar to the door.

Guys, what should I do? In a dilemma. I didn't want the panel beater to rip apart a week old CU2 just to fix some minor scratches even though the shop is paying for the repair. Morever, they might not do a good job and there will be visible color mismatch.

I am thinking of doing some minor polish either myself or from those mobile repairs.

I am also thinking of just leaving it and not do anything but afraid it will cause rust or corrosion down the road.

Anybody from Perth can recommend me some of those that do good paintless scratch removal?

Advice much appreciated mates...

I would speak to the dealer who sold you the new Euro,as it ABSORLUTELY needs to be properely repaired, and see who they reccomend...I would have been crazy,its a 1 week old baby...

When Honda clear coat is stressed around a scratch, it turns white, which can make the scratch look worse than it is, especially on a dark car. Does your fingernail catch in those scratches? Do the scratches look white inside, or can you see metal/primer/colour?

If your fingernail doesn't catch or only catches a little bit, there is a chance that those scratches (particularly the one on the door) have not penetrated the clear coat, and wetsanding and buffing could remove them entirely (this process will remove a chunk of the clear coat). Depending on the scratches, the remaining clear coat film build may be too thin after sanding to reasonably attempt this repair.

Unfortunately, I can't recommend a place to do this in Perth, you're going to have to do the ring around to see if anyone will try paintless scratch removal, and if it's possible. Note that they will likely charge you extra for an attempt to fix the repair without painting first.

But if the tinter did this damage and you've been in touch with the insurer - hey, you should be covered. But check with the insurer if you have an attempt done do fix it without respray.

- HZ

Hey Antony, Hunter, thanks for the advice.

After much thinking, I am quite certain I will not go for the respray option. A shop here quoted me $100 plus GST. to touch-up, cut and buff for the repair. Sounds like a good deal to me.

I have already forwarded the quote to the tinting company for action.

If they are not honoring the repair, I might just leave it. I am not too concern about the cosmetic. My biggest gripe is the door rusting only.

BTW...how long does the rusting process takes to spread through the door? Years? Just curious to know.

$100 sounds reasonable for a paintless scratch removal and polish - hopefully the shop has the skill to do it. It should only need touch-up paint in areas where the scratch has gone right through the paint.

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Originally Posted by jay2

BTW...how long does the rusting process takes to spread through the door? Years? Just curious to know.

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If the paint has not been scratched to the metal, then it won't rust. There is a good chance that the clear on the door was not penetrated looking at the pics, the only area I would be worried about is the panel edge on the guard. The paint is normally thinner on the corners, and raised areas and corners are more susceptible to damage.

Rust starts pretty much right away on exposed metal, factors like humidity determine how fast is spreads. Rust can start quite quickly if you park the car in salty sea air near the coast. The rust can start to become noticeable after only a couple of weeks. It's always best to repair scratches and stone chips as soon as you notice them.

- HZ

You need to get it done properly,and I would get it resprayed......

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Originally Posted by antony

You need to get it done properly,and I would get it resprayed......

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+1, if it needs respraying and the tint shop is footing the bill, then I'd get it resprayed. Touch up paint will look ugly.

- HZ