Advise on change wheels

Printable View

01-12-2004, 03:11 PM
NTGD

Advise on changing wheels

Hello all!

I am interested in changing the wheels for my Jazz Vti to either a 15" or 16".

I aksed Honda Australia, they said the Vti-S have a different set up to suit the 15" wheel compares to the set up for the Vti.

I also read from other place that it is not a good idea to change to a larger wheel size (17" or above) as it will have some negative effect the Jazz's steering system or something.

Can someone clarify this for me?

It will be great if someone can give me some pros and cons about changing the wheel size, such as effect on fuel concumption, power ...etc.
01-12-2004, 03:19 PM
TypeG

Quote:

Originally Posted by NTGD

I also read from other place that it is not a good idea to change to a larger wheel size (17" or above) as it will have some negative effect the Jazz's steering system or something..

this is right as i have been told by mechanic as well.
15 or 16 will be fine and with a better tyres will be enough

I never heard the vit and vtis have the different setup but i dun think it is tho.... coz from the spec, they are the same
01-12-2004, 03:30 PM
Philip Lee

Quote:

I am interested in changing the wheels for my Jazz Vti to either a 15" or 16".

cool man. get some nice ones.

Quote:

I aksed Honda Australia, they said the Vti-S have a different set up to suit the 15" wheel compares to the set up for the Vti.

i think that's a lot of bull but they may know something i don't

Quote:

I also read from other place that it is not a good idea to change to a larger wheel size (17" or above) as it will have some negative effect the Jazz's steering system or something.

Can someone clarify this for me?

well replacing 14"s with 17"s is illegal, the biggest is +2 = 16"s. if you have 15" from factory (ie. VTIs), then 17"s ok.

Quote:

It will be great if someone can give me some pros and cons about changing the wheel size, such as effect on fuel concumption, power ...etc.

changing to a bigger &/or wider wheels would generally improve grip (not necessary handling tho) as lower profile tyres usually have softer compound and you have more rubber to the ground. also the look department would generally improve too.

a few things to beware:
1. check with your insurance coy the max size you can upgrade to;
2. make sure the overall diameter is not changed significantly, otherwise the speedo will not be correct;
3. make sure the offset is correct for the wheels. it is illegal if the wheels sticks too far out and it may rub with the guard;
4. choose some wheels that is light, Jazz doesn't have loads of power and you wouldn't want to slow it down further. also increase unsprung weight is an enermy to good handling;
5. buy the best tyres you can afford. at the end of the day, this is the only item on the car that touches the ground. don't spend big money on state of the art wheels and have to settle on crappy tires.

hope this help.
01-12-2004, 03:59 PM
NTGD

Thanks TypeG and Philip Lee for your input.

I proably go for a 15", don't want to change too much. However since I only got my car for like a month, the stock tyre is still new, I might wait a while for the change. Also there is the money part of it, I think the whole thing should cost more than $2k.

If I change I like the Lenso VE wheel, but not sure on what tyre is good, advise on that will be good for my reference.
01-12-2004, 04:16 PM
DavidLing

Quote:

Originally Posted by NTGD

Thanks TypeG and Philip Lee for your input.

I proably go for a 15", don't want to change too much. However since I only got my car for like a month, the stock tyre is still new, I might wait a while for the change. Also there is the money part of it, I think the whole thing should cost more than $2k.

If I change I like the Lenso VE wheel, but not sure on what tyre is good, advise on that will be good for my reference.

Hi, i am driving a GLi, origially is 14", and i am looking for a 15". I don't think it will cost u more than $2k for 4 wheels and tyres, coz' u can buy a package (wheels and Tyres) which is usually cheaper.

Philip sent me a website (Tempe Tyres) and they have a cheap package, the cheapest 15" package is $700 only, and u can upgrade the tyres as well. It also shows the shipping fee, around $85 to anywhere in Aust. However, i am not sure the quility, i heard form Philip said they are made in China stuff. (Correct me if i am wrong)

the URL is http://www.tempetyres.com.au/index.asp

the following are my chooies:

This the lightest 15":
http://www.tempetyres.com.au/content...W_0431_RT8.jpg
http://www.tempetyres.com.au/product...um&part_no=552

http://www.tempetyres.com.au/content...W_0070_RT8.jpg
http://www.tempetyres.com.au/product...ly&part_no=716

http://www.tempetyres.com.au/content...W_0048_RT8.jpg
http://www.tempetyres.com.au/product...ly&part_no=598
01-12-2004, 04:30 PM
NTGD

Thanks David!!

Will take that into considersation.
01-12-2004, 04:49 PM
DavidLing

Quote:

Originally Posted by NTGD

Thanks David!!

Will take that into considersation.

You are so welcome!

but i am not really sure about the quailty. But Philip said many MX-5 are uisng the first one recnetly, because it is ultra light (aroung 5Kg). The price are very attractive too! he he :D

In my opinion, i like shadow chrome and burshed sliver. I don't really like chorme coz' that is too shine, and too westen (鬼"Lo") style! (but the first on seem like a chorme one)
01-12-2004, 05:04 PM
Philip Lee

Quote:

Originally Posted by DavidLing

You are so welcome!

..... I don't really like chorme coz' that is too shine, and too westen (鬼"Lo") style! (but the first on seem like a chorme one)

the first one is shadow chrome with machined lip. definitely not chrome. chrome wheels are usually heavy.
01-12-2004, 05:29 PM
DavidLing

Quote:

Originally Posted by Philip Lee

the first one is shadow chrome with machined lip. definitely not chrome. chrome wheels are usually heavy.

ok! but form the pic, it look like chrome!
01-12-2004, 05:42 PM
spoon fit

hey! NTGD join our sunday cruise
http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12559
01-12-2004, 06:36 PM
muli

Quote:

Originally Posted by NTGD

I aksed Honda Australia, they said the Vti-S have a different set up to suit the 15" wheel compares to the set up for the Vti.

just ring up again and say can i put Vti-s wheels on my vti?
01-12-2004, 06:42 PM
TypeG

depends what rims u get
for some better JDM tims, u looking for 2k + since good tyres cost u around $150+ a corner for sure
01-12-2004, 08:05 PM
MRFIT

what tyres comes with the VTi model?

I am using the original tyres from my VTiS, with a set of aftermarket rims..... cost saving.... :D
01-12-2004, 08:13 PM
Jus-10

I run 16x7s with no probs at all. No rubbing on full lock and no scrubbing.

Just do it man...
01-12-2004, 08:59 PM
NTGD

Quote:

Originally Posted by spoon fit

hey! NTGD join our sunday cruise
http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12559

Unfortunatlely I got something planned this Sunday. Maybe next time.
01-12-2004, 09:00 PM
will_pop

Quote:

Originally Posted by Philip Lee

well replacing 14"s with 17"s is illegal, the biggest is +2 = 16"s. if you have 15" from factory (ie. VTIs), then 17"s ok.

it's legal to replace 14" iwth 17" ... the 2" difference is about the over all diameter of your wheels... so if you change your tyres to a lower profile.. u will be fine
01-12-2004, 09:00 PM
TypeG

no
it is on 12/12
so u must come...
01-12-2004, 09:13 PM
NTGD

Oh! my mistake, not this Sunday.

I will know can I go about next Wednesday!

I will post on the cruise thread if I can make it!
01-12-2004, 11:04 PM
MRFIT

Welcome NTGD...
02-12-2004, 12:25 PM
wyl03

Quote:

Originally Posted by NTGD

Thanks TypeG and Philip Lee for your input.

I proably go for a 15", don't want to change too much. However since I only got my car for like a month, the stock tyre is still new, I might wait a while for the change. Also there is the money part of it, I think the whole thing should cost more than $2k.

If I change I like the Lenso VE wheel, but not sure on what tyre is good, advise on that will be good for my reference.

hi NTGD,
i'm in the same boat as you are.
looking at changing to 15"s within the next few weeks. I like the Lenso VEs too. replica of the VOlk TE37.

as for tyre choice, you should look at Bridgestone G3 or BFGoodRich's G-Force Sport?
02-12-2004, 12:27 PM
TypeG

good suggestion
02-12-2004, 01:01 PM
Philip Lee

Goodyear GS-D3 is good too.
02-12-2004, 01:02 PM
NTGD

Quote:

Originally Posted by wyl03

hi NTGD,
i'm in the same boat as you are.
looking at changing to 15"s within the next few weeks. I like the Lenso VEs too. replica of the VOlk TE37.

as for tyre choice, you should look at Bridgestone G3 or BFGoodRich's G-Force Sport?

Thanks for your input, let me know how you go with the change and post some pictures after your change will be great.

Also, can you let me know how much you pay for the wheels and tyres?
03-12-2004, 10:39 AM
DavidLing

I bought my insurance from Honda (The company is called Swann Insurance). I just check with them, and they said i can only change to a wheel which is 1" bigger then my original. Coz' i am driving GLi, and that is 14", i only can go for 15"
03-12-2004, 11:03 AM
TypeG

http://www.wheelspecs.com/specs/wheelmodels/423
what about this rims?
what do u think this rims on a red jazz?
03-12-2004, 12:00 PM
wyl03

not bad but i prefer these ones:
http://rayswheels.co.jp/emenu/datas/GRAM/04_57S/03.jpg

i believe gramlights are not too expensive. the above can be found for under $1500 with tyres.

NTGD - i was quoted $800 for lenso VEs with cheapo tyres, $1300 with BF G'rich tyres. prices are for 15"s.
03-12-2004, 12:26 PM
TypeG

i dun want fake and cheap tyres or i just dun cahnge until i got the money especially for tyres...
03-12-2004, 08:45 PM
spoon fit

Quote:

Originally Posted by TypeG

i dun want fake and cheap tyres or i just dun cahnge until i got the money especially for tyres...

yes, get the tyres from hk...
http://www.n-1.com.au/advan_neova.asp
ADVAN NEOVA AD07 SIZE 195/55-15 AUS$660 each ....in hk HKD$27xx a set

i like this one
http://www.wheelspecs.com/specs/imag..._emotioncr.png
03-12-2004, 08:51 PM
TypeG

i want 16 to raise my car a bit after installing kit
04-12-2004, 07:47 AM
Oldman

Quote:

Originally Posted by TypeG

i want 16 to raise my car a bit after installing kit

Smart move. Let me know when you intend to change your wheels, I'll will buy those MF10L off you.
04-12-2004, 11:33 AM
TypeG

LOL
sorry man
someone MAY swap mine with his VOLK
but if u want to get my rims, PM me with your offer and if I am not getting those VOLK, i will get a set in HK and sell mine after Feb next year
04-12-2004, 01:26 PM
MRFIT

Quote:

Originally Posted by spoon fit

yes, get the tyres from hk...
http://www.n-1.com.au/advan_neova.asp
ADVAN NEOVA AD07 SIZE 195/55-15 AUS$660 each ....in hk HKD$27xx a set

i like this one
http://www.wheelspecs.com/specs/imag..._emotioncr.png

This one is nice..... shame its 5 lug though....
04-12-2004, 05:06 PM
spoon fit

http://img127.exs.cx/img127/3240/b9-Emo_023.jpg
04-12-2004, 05:23 PM
TypeG

nice find
the rims look similar style and color as the Volk one which i can photochop it
oh yes, what is the black little wing on the front bar called?
i love it man.....
04-12-2004, 06:06 PM
spoon fit

Quote:

Originally Posted by TypeG

nice find
the rims look similar style and color as the Volk one which i can photochop it
oh yes, what is the black little wing on the front bar called?
i love it man.....

canard
http://store1.yimg.com/I/hopup1_1821_58483910
04-12-2004, 06:48 PM
TypeG

are they expensive?
04-12-2004, 08:00 PM
civiceg9

Quote:

Originally Posted by spoon fit

yes, get the tyres from hk...
http://www.n-1.com.au/advan_neova.asp
ADVAN NEOVA AD07 SIZE 195/55-15 AUS$660 each ....in hk HKD$27xx a set

i like this one
http://www.wheelspecs.com/specs/imag..._emotioncr.png

The rim looks nice
$660 each that crazy, cost like $800HKD for semi slick in HK.
Water good price hehe.:D

those Wings worth shit if u get it oversea (ie. HK, Taiwan, Malay :p )
04-12-2004, 10:11 PM
spoon fit

Quote:

Originally Posted by TypeG

are they expensive?

c-west one $200 a pair
04-12-2004, 10:23 PM
TypeG

wahhhhh and they are illegal
05-12-2004, 01:01 AM
MRFIT

cut open someone's leg..... :D OUCH!!!

spoon fit..... that pic proved me wrong.... I like the look..... ;)
05-12-2004, 04:09 PM
spoon fit

Quote:

Originally Posted by TypeG

wahhhhh and they are illegal

illegal? :confused:
05-12-2004, 04:34 PM
TypeG

yes
those things are basically illegal
09-12-2004, 10:34 AM
wyl03

got my lenso VE's installed a couple of days back. tyres = BFGoodrich G-sport.
i've used B'stone G2s in the past, so I'm trying out BFG.

pics below:

http://img97.exs.cx/img97/4527/myjazz10ff.jpg

http://img96.exs.cx/img96/777/myjazz40zz.jpg

http://img97.exs.cx/img97/281/myjazz58ag.jpg

BEFORE .. looking at those skinny wheels :p
and the car was so much cleaner ... sigh.

http://img30.exs.cx/img30/1285/jazzback0nw.jpg
09-12-2004, 08:43 PM
spoon fit

15"?
09-12-2004, 09:09 PM
kuso

They look a bit small hey :S.

The closeup I looked at before in another thread looked OK, but there isn't a big difference and it somewhat looks odd from these pics. Not to be offensive but that's my 2 cents.
10-12-2004, 09:10 AM
wyl03

heh . yah .. 15-inch. so they are a bit small :p
10-12-2004, 10:31 AM
TypeG

not really small for a jazz
it is just right
lower the car will help the look of small rims i swear
10-12-2004, 12:20 PM
asiansquad

hmm..what are some nice cheap rims for jazz??
10-12-2004, 01:19 PM
wyl03

Quote:

Originally Posted by TypeG

... lower the car will help the look of small rims i swear

that is correct. :thumbsup:
02-02-2010, 08:35 AM
insanesam

looking to get some alloys on mum's new jazz (2010 model)
I got the VTi which comes in 175/65/15 (tyres/wheels). The VTi-s has 185/55/16 (tyres/wheel). Basically i just want 16" wheels on this car.
I noticed the wheels of the VTi-s is 16 x 6. Looking around i can only find wheels that are 16 x 7. Is there a big difference? Would i be able to use the 185/55 tyres on 16 x 7 rims?
05-02-2010, 11:07 AM
hoey888

16x7 uses a 205 width tyre, however 215 width can be accomadated by stretching.

bear in mind 16" tyres are pretty expensive, since you'll be looking at getting 205/45/16 tyres. re001 are around 180+ a corner
05-02-2010, 10:42 PM
Mikecivic78

I wanna give my old man's White CVT '03 Jazz some nice mags. Those stock wheels look so pedestrian!

But then again, he'll scratch the shit out of 'em. (never had mags in his life)

He scraped a mag on my em1, and i made him replace it bwahha. I guess im a bad son.

205/40r16 for a sick look IMO.