Just try some Honda FEO R engine oil.
anyone try it? It feels like Castrol R oils.:cool:
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Just try some Honda FEO R engine oil.
anyone try it? It feels like Castrol R oils.:cool:
Feels like Castrol 5W30 you mean?
But at least Honda FEO Rs are cheaper
I've heard my fd in US that Castrol have oil burning issue on Vtec, anyone had experienced that?
so is this new? wat diff is it to the FEO? more info would be good... :D
I think it's not new....... not sure...... i just thought it's the one which highly recommend by Honda for the Type-R's........ I've using it for 15000km and the engine runs VERY smooth and quiet, and hmm...... don't compare it with Mobil 1 or Motul 300v cos it's different thing :)Quote:
Originally Posted by supernatural
ive seen this oil before - actually has a "TYPE RRrrr" on the front ( and a dc5r tacho revving) they dont seem to sell its at honda dealers anymore tho ?!?
YES!!! :thumbsup: That's the one i am talking aboutQuote:
Originally Posted by bennjamin
It's still selling in here, $27.xx..... not too expensive
10w30 semi-synthetic?
semi?? isnt it better if it was full?? :confused:
I saw it at the dealer yesterday
$27.xx for how many litres?
i saw it at dealer here in melb 2 weeks ago, wouldnt be surprised if places like hondwreck have a few litres on them
they did a test a while back on a whole bunch of oils..
Tested it on an Integra.
That Honda stuff was one of 15-20 oils tested.. Overall it came second last, just avoiding last place who was taken by standard shell helix mineral oil u can buy at woolies for $15!! ($12 when on sale!!)
The top 5 winners were;
Castrol R 10-60W
Mobil 1 0-30W
Mobil One 5-50W
Royal Purple 10-60W
Amsoil
(All Synthetic..)
If you have a revvin machine or turbo, dont settle for anything less than synthetic.. YOu get what you pay for, and for only $50-60 for 5L, its well worth the $$$$
I recommend Castrol 10-60W or Mobil One 10-60W and most ppl here would agree.. Dont buy the 0-30 stuff coz the aussie weather is too hot for it!!
my 2cents
60W oils are a bit thick for low capacity highreving NA cars. great for wear but you'll suffer a bit with performance.
the lighter oils such as the castrol R 5W 30 are too thin for the hot summers but are great during winter, especially on those super cold mornings :thumbsup:
FEO is made for Honda to Honda's Specs for Australian Conditions. I wouldnt belive every thing you hear in the media regarding testing.
who conducted the test, any ideas. sounds interesting though.
I've used the 10-30 FEO oil and i have to say it is very smooth. You have to remember that if they made it for the Type Rs then it would have to be pretty decent wouldn't you think? And yes they sell it at Honda dealers for $27 still cos i brought it about 2mths ago there. 60w are good for Turbos Dnation, and not all of us own one.
Hey Mr.Limbo, its Dave mate... You're just too patriotic to Honda Limbo... First it was toyota, now Honda...
:P
Im not saying the stuff is bad dude, but everyone I've ever met, who tried either mobil 1 or Castrol R after a normal oil, were very impressed with the added smoothness...
RE: the comment on made on this oil for TypeR's Aussie standard??.. Are you sure mate? 0-30W rating is hardly Aussie standard.. 30W is way too thin for our harsh summers.. I would be thinking it was made for Jap climates coz its cold can get cold up there... Ideally, a 50-60 rating are the best for Aust i would think?!??
RE: The test, it was a Zoom magazine who did the article.. They tested the wear of each oil after 1000km & 5000km. Mobil 1 had the best wear, only wearing 3% after 5000km (most of the others had about 7-10% wear). Additionally they dynoed the Integra with each oil. Castrol R and Mobil 1 gave more than 5hp peak power over most other oils and had a better power band also.. Next time you come over dude, I'll let you read the article..
I'm not saying the FEO stuff is bad coz in the end, it'll still protect your engine if u maintain it properly.. Its better than most of the other mineral stuff, but synthetic will always be in another league. If its performance u have in mind, its hard to go past pure synthetic.. In the end, u get wat you pay for, so if this FEO honda oil is less than HALF the price of most synthetic oils, that should speak for itself...
I dont know about u guys but I worship both mobil 1 and Castrol R oils and use them religiously.. Its only an extra $20ish per oil change but the short-long term benefits are aplenty.
Dont be a tight a55 Hao, buy the best you can coz u'll need it to beat my B16A... hahaha
JK
My 2cents..
dave
been driving on it the last few days, engine runs smooth at low revs
but try to floor the car at high revs just doesnt feel the same as Castrol R or Mobil 1 etc.
oh well its a once off since I got it for free.
I found this on asia.vtec.net
http://asia.vtec.net/topics/oil1.html
I wonder if Honda Aus gets the same oil as Honda Japan
Hey Dave i'm sure you will notice that the Honda seem to be running lighter internals than the Toyotas. This is prob. the reason for the 10-30w as a standard for the entire honda range. Like i said the Honda oil is pretty good and it is also used on the Type R. Will let you know when i run the Castrol R next if there is any difference, but i don't see anything bad in the oil.
As with running your car we'll see when and IF your car gets off the ground. :cool:
btw.. for those of you who wish to seem which oils are actually performing goto this site..
www.themotoroilsite.com i've just downloaded the oil bible and it has a range of oils which have been independantly tested and gives each a rating. Also test the different viscosity of each oil against each other.
I'm gonna try amsoil next if i manage to get my hands on it. From the Amercian sites it seems to kick both the castrol R and the Mobil 1 :D
anyone know where in sydney you can buy this FEO R???
i use to see it on sale at canley vale but it seems like it isnt being sold for a while now, at dealers, and at canley no luck......anyone know where i can score some of this in syd?
interesting, gonna find out whether I can get this.Quote:
Originally Posted by civiceg9
10w60?? wtf??
but i agree with the others though all 10w30s and the FEO are smooth... but going down to 5w30 and i burn oil in vtec in summer as sivic suggested... it is better in winter though
Why 0-30 is not suitable for our aussie weather?:confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Dnation
the lower the numbers the generally for lower ambient temps.
Thicker for hotter
Why lower viscosity oil not suitable for hotter ambient temperature?Quote:
Originally Posted by bennjamin
wow this is an old thread
so old that that 'FEO R' is just 'FEO'.
honda used to also use a lower quality 'HMO' (honda motor oil) for anything not type-R or NSX but they switched to FEO for everything except for hybrids which use special LEO hybrid oil
:) I recommend AMSOIL, 100% Synthetic, either 20W-50, for racing and sprints etc., or 10W-40 for Street use. When you look at all the independent tests that have been done, AMSOIL is well ahead in all categories. It was in nthe market before Mobil 1, and beats that in all tests also. I use it exclusively and have done so after using Shell and Redline, that are excellent oils also. I used to be an Agent for AMSOIL, but not any more because they want me to stock far too much to get a good buying price, otherwise I would still sell it. Now that I am no longer selling it, I can give it an unbiassed plug:thumbsup:
I wouldn't use anything thicker than 10w-40 in my B18. That guys running 0w-60 or whatever in his NA B16 is a nutter. Yes there is better protection, but less flow flow. I think you would spin bearings if you rev hard on a track using that stuff.
5W-30 is fine for the street, even in hot, harsh aussie climates. If you are scared it's too thin... then use 5W-30 for winter, and 10W-40 for summer.
Mineral oil is fine too. Just need to change it earlier.
how many litre should put in the engine when doing oil change? eg. k20a
hmm about the oil dip tick theres two dot low/hi, how many litres would be in middle?
some subjects are just timeless though!Quote:
Originally Posted by Limbo
nicely revived phillip_pc
i know stuff all about oils and went for a 5-30 a while back... VTEC chewed through it so quickly!Quote:
Originally Posted by VTECMACHINE
winter doesnt get too cold in Bris so i'll be sticking with the 10-40 over the coming months
Read your manual!! :pQuote:
Originally Posted by EP3EVA
By be interesting for you guys to know, Honda will be receiving new FEO oil soon.. =) 5-40 or 0-40 i cant remember the numbers exactly.. but im 100% on the new release.
we already got it. its 5w-40 full synthetic engine oil. its FEO Ultra
I saw Valvoline Synpower 5w40 5L at the local auto store for under $50. I might try it later on.Quote:
Originally Posted by blk_shadow
wat benefits does feo ultra provide over feo?
price? i was getting feo for $40
Hmm ... and people said 5w-40 was a tad too heavy for hondas when I was selling my ELF oils ay?
5w-40 fully synthetic oil is the best ranged oil on the market.
And I would recommend it for any highly enthusiastic driving. Too bad I cant get ELF anymore...
correction, its 5w-30 FEO Ultra
when and where will it be sold? jus from dealers?
in Melb they're already available to buy.
only from dealers.
price?
Thats the new one thats in the silver coloured bottle yeah?Quote:
Originally Posted by blk_shadow
Since its fully synthetic now, I'm guessing it'll be even better than the old FEO mineral oil?
It's silver , made by caltex and about $70 per 5l bottle. Might as well get castrol 5-30 for the money tho.Quote:
Originally Posted by type_AHH
Btw for any tightasses out there - feo is sold at supercheap auto under the calibre prefix. It's 10-30 and made
By caltex too.
The normal feo is silver as well, or is it grey?
So calibre is rebranded feo? Wat price tho, cos normal feo is about $40
Oh, and at $70, might as well get royal purple or mobil 1 or elf stuff
no FEO and calibre 10-30w ( retails for about $28 for 6 litres ) are the same stuff made by caltex. One is sold at super cheap auto and the other at honda.Quote:
Originally Posted by yellows2k
Your source?Quote:
Originally Posted by bennjamin
just went to sca, saw the calibre brand, tried to look at the labelling and "made by" but didnt really have anything distinguishing
The FEO oil is specifically blended for Honda, its made by Caltex and wont be the same as the Calibre produced by Caltex , It may derive form that oil however not exactly the same
Remind me NOT to ever buy YOUR Type R hahaha.. 15,000kms on one lot of oil ? phwoarr !! it's not a ford falcon yo ! and the oil isnt MAGIC hahaha.
I can't push this further than "what my fathers mate" told me. It's exactly that , that my dads mate that works at caltex was mortified how much the mark up was and told me so.Quote:
Originally Posted by SPEEDCORE
Anyone care to run tests in a laboratory ???
Strange.
I seem to recall that Honda FEO mineral 5W-30 was produced using a Castrol base stock with a Honda supplied additive package.
FEO is 10w-30w - typo ?!
Yep.... sorry 10W30. I had the new "full synthetic" on my mind.Quote:
Originally Posted by bennjamin
I wonder if it's worth changing from Mobil 1 0W40 to this new Honda synthetic? Pricing for the FEO Ultra is $59.95 per 5l at my local Honda dealer.
So whats the verdict on the FEO Ultra ?
About to change the oil on my newly purchased 98 Accord 3L
Local dealer quoted me..
FEO Ultra Engine oil $33
Drain plug washer $1
Hamp oil filter $$22
Honda ATF $20 per ltr.
:cool:
:wave:
$33 for FEO ULTRA???? wtf where
I get charged like $50 for normal feo.
FFFFFFFFFKKKK!
are you 100% sure that the FEO oil and the Calibre are the same?Quote:
Originally Posted by bennjamin
don't tell me i've been using that shit in my car...
Quote:
Originally Posted by souperman
as stated......its what ive "heard" - the coincidence that FEO and FEO ULTRA are manufactured by caltex , and that the same oils rated 10/30w and 5/30w come in as a budget oil at super cheap auto perhaps is just a coincidence.(perhaps surplus stock?)
To the eyes they appear to be the same. Its up to a lab test environment to really tell if they are truly one and the same tho !
I work at supercheap, I don't know if FEO is the same, but Calibre IS made by Caltex, it has the Caltex logo on the back, there is also Calibre Semi and Fully Synthetic available now. But to be honest I'd steer clear of any calibre products except the tools, there's a reason it's all cheap. lolz
Feo ultra has the caltex logo on the lid lol
it says on the back that its pretty much the same as caltex oil but with honda's altered recipe and higher quality control