been doing some research and have come to the conclusion that prices for;
-b18c7 100k kms = $5-6k
-k20z (type s) 80k kms = 10k
are these prices correct (not including installation)
cheers
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been doing some research and have come to the conclusion that prices for;
-b18c7 100k kms = $5-6k
-k20z (type s) 80k kms = 10k
are these prices correct (not including installation)
cheers
Yeah sounds about right, but from my understanding it will be ALOT more to install a k-motor then a B-series motor. But if you got the doosh, i think i speak for everyone when i say...K-series it up!
i have a jdm k20a for 7k
mm honda stuff is very expensive, try and squeeze in another engine some how, like sr20 or something, do something bizzare and different ;) lol
you can get a decent k swap setup for around 13k these days :) its worth it
The minute you pay for a K, your already loosing money
better off finding a car with k swap already if u really want a k series motor
You don't see many ppl keeping there car that long after a k swap
Golan has k20r for $7k. Offer him $6k + BJ i think is good deal.
What. The. F ck.Quote:
Originally Posted by trentd
sr20?
Where do you live so I can smack you out. Literally.
sr20 is the sh ttest motor.
Dont try defend the SR. 2.0L DOHC injected. Munches fuel. And produces the same power as a SOHC vtec d16y engine.
Chain driven engine with 3 different tensioner roller designs. For the same engine. And they all still rattle over time.
Square motor meaning the bore and stroke is the same. Which means, not alot of engineering went into it.
Longer stroke = better down low torque.
Shorter stroke = higher revving.
Square = In the middle.
Ill stop there. I cbf bagging out the SR.
As to OP.
Go B series if you have a budget. Its cheaper on parts. And alot of aftermarket support. With less hassles.
Mate i run a f.kn b series engine you f.k. SR20 is something different and you can buy them turbo for cheap, and from there you can do more.
show some respect. its an idea mate.
in case you didn't read what i wrote on the end, do something bizzare and different.
just because its a honda forum doesn't mean you have to bag everything else.
Imagin what people would think when you pop the bonnet and there like 'oh shit'
and there not a bad engine mate, huge amounts of power can be made from them. a lot more then what a sohc vtec engine.
leave it.
alright this is about fun not trying to prove people wrong and how smart you can be by abusing them and shit.
alright i'm in montmorency, smack me out mate, let me know where and when and i'm sure you won't be doing the smacking mate.
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Originally Posted by OMG.JAI xD
sr20ve - good bang for buck - can get a motor for around 1500 with 187hp stock. It's no honda but its something different.
keep the Honda motors in a Honda and Nissan motors in a Nissan. Anyone whos done a Sr20 Honda is just going backwards
there will be a huge amount of people who would say 'oh shit' and more people saying after oh shit, 'how dumb is he'
feel free to prove me wrong and do it. :)
how dumb? wouldn't they think, whooow how did he do that. its only the absolute honda finatics that will b like 'how dumb is he'
i do agree with the keep honda nissan blah blah.
but its good for your money and i'll tell you, if some guy in an rg civic rocked up and popped his bonnet and i saw it.
i think i'd b speechless, i'd reakon that would be mint.
Back to topic. out of the 2 engines k20 would cost a lot more to do but would be pretty quick.
b18c7 is a top engine aswell. both powerful.
if i had the choice and money wasn't a problem it would be the k20 for me.
but the thing is we live in a world were money is all the problem, so in reality i think i'd go the b18c7 because its a quick fit with minimal work for me.
Yet the SR has been popular enough to reach such a cult status with 10 years of use by Nissan.Quote:
Originally Posted by OMG.JAI xD
Mod for mod, the turbo SR makes MORE power than a turbo K20 for a LOT less money. With a GT2871r, exhaust, ECU, cams and injectors easily sees 230-240kw at the wheels with a bunch of cheap off the shelf bolt-ons. All the crap that you have to go through to obtain this type of figure with a K or B series engine is just not worth it.
How do I know this? I've been from a 180sx to a DC2R to an S15, which I then sold for my DC5R. As good as the K series is, frankly you're an idiot if you think the SR20 inferior.
Produces the same power as a D-series? I think not. Let me know once you get a D16 to 230kw atw and then we can talk.
Munches fuel? Once again I think not. My S15 made 500klms to it's 45L tank just like my DC5R.
I'm not saying the OP should go put an SR in his honda, and I'm not saying the K or B series are bad engines, I'm just saying that you shouldn't be so closed minded and go around spouting crap about an engine that you clearly have no experience with. You can whinge about the design of an engine as much as you want, but at the end of the day, whatever works, works.
THANKYOU! someone who understands.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChrisSX
good post.
people are now bolting turbo's to the sr20ve - i think this is going to yield alot of power.... by the way for those who don't know a sr20ve is nissan's sr20 with vvl (like vtec just called something different)
and if anyone wants to compare a nissan engine to a honda one they did this a few years back... ek type R vs pulsar vzr. Both 1.6 ltr 2 door hatch backs
I thought the K20 was a square engine as well - actually the same specs as a sr? 86 x 86
I've previously owned a DC2R and now i own a 180 with a SR20
So i know what its like from a B18C7 to a SR20DET
let me tell you.. SR20's are crap... slow.. fuel munching.. unreliable, to be honest.. if i had a chance to switch back to a DC2R.. i would in a heart beat
oh and Have both been at WSID
DC2R - 1050KG - B18C7 - 108kw atw - 13.9 with a 2.0 60' time
180SX - 1150KG - SR20DET - 170kw atw - 13.9 with a 2.0 60' time
only managed 13.9 on the 180 but an extra 60kw.. you would imagine a better time.. but no..
look b series engines are extremely reliable and have no trouble with increasing power.
sr20's can b problems and can be excellent, just depends on the one you have.
k20.... depends how much you have to spend
i was just beating a friend in a gutted dc2 R with 132fwkw in a all motor sr20 n14.... you should compare apples with apples...Quote:
Originally Posted by RR-04-RR
at the end of the day depends on what money you have to spend. honda engines are expensive.
power to weight! ;)
i am in the process of doing an engine swap, at the end it should have around 130 - 140 kw atw. not bad for a $1500 engine with cams i think
its better then not bad. its great. what kind of engine?
its a sr20ve - they come out in xtrails in japan. its almost the exact same block as the sr20de
yeh mint, i like it
ur s15 had a 45L tank? thought they were 60 or 65L.....Quote:
Originally Posted by ChrisSX
there defantly not 45L tanks. according to redbook.com.au they are 65L.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChrisSX
correct there mate
well thankyou very much for all the interesting and helpful replies.
what are k20a and k20z worth becoz between here and google searches im getting 2-3g up to 13g for k-series swaps??? can anyone explain.
i ask this coz i am may be able to get my hands on a type-s integra and wanna know how much is worth spending, lets not forget i could part out interior and some panels
cheers
dc5S go for 20k+
and lol at the sr vs k engines
School holidays not over?
i for got to mention the type-s is a writeoff lol.
would anyone be interested in buying the motor its got 60k on the clock. not worth getting if the motor if it is gunna sit there if i dont choose to put into my ek1.
cheers
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Originally Posted by trentd
http://www.honda-tech.com/showthread.php?t=2104408Quote:
Originally Posted by ChrisSX
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qxtf3_IHTfs
400WHP STOCK INTERNALS (besides ARP headstuds) boosted D16