Hey am looking to buy an integra in the next few months and was just wondering what the difference is between the type r and vti-r models. shape, engine, interior, price, insurance.
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Hey am looking to buy an integra in the next few months and was just wondering what the difference is between the type r and vti-r models. shape, engine, interior, price, insurance.
do a search mate. there are many many differences in all of the above areas.
....my advice is to buy the type-R ...it is all round a MUCH better car than the VTi-R.
remember it is all round a MUCH higher price too.
depends on what you want really. If you just want speed, the amount of money spent to buy the type r could be put into a vtir and have a real fast car.
Just really depends on your wants/needs
fabz - do/did you own a proton gti?? please ignore if you dont!!
i bought a 98 VTiR for $15k with full Type R body kit and 150k km
then i spent $3k on sussy and will be spending $8k on the engine, so i will be upto the price of a good stock Type R...
they are my thoughts... but i like building my own toys...
if you get a VTiR make sure it is 98+ with twin airbags and facelift front and rear ends.
they are just as nice as the Type R inside, but cheaper insurance-wise too ;)
Be more specific what are your plans what do u want to able to achieve in it..
But personally if you can afford the r i would go for it no doubt about it.
Well it will be a 1st car lol so im leaning towards the vti-r so dont end up crashin it, and i will need to wait a WHILE longer before i can afford a type r. Is the body the exact same on these??
98+ Vti-R has same body shape if that's what you mean... but R chassis is stiffer.
a few bling items like rear spoiler, front lip etc is different. Vti-R is four lug - that's the major bits.
If you don't have the money and it's ur first car, no doubt vtir is a better option. Quick quesiton u still on ur P plates? If so definately VTIR. Insurance is a bitch of a thing. Oh yeah how much are you thinking of spending?
yeah man liek what spre3m said!! sorry if that was'nt the correct ozhodna username! yeah if ur on ya P's stick to VTiR if ur in voctoria cos apparently the ITR's can't be driven by P platers soon. i think list is already out so if u buy one now u can't drive it! and basically from what i know and heard the ITR is just a complete package! but VTiR is not a bad car i race type r's before my car is proibebly about 130 - 135 KW i have a VTiR by the way i am about same is first gear but it eats me in 2nd gear cos of gear ratios! but slap a ITR gearbox onto VTIR and ur laughing man, then heeaders full exhaust. i'm telling u VTEC with extractors is the best sound EVA beta than any turbo! or supercharger or even beta than a hot chick screaming, when ur ****ing her lol maybe not that.... but anyways back on the topic the itr beta suspension. beta brakes beta everything also only thing so far i like beta on VTiR is tghe power steering! thats my personal preference ur allowed to think otherwsie! but if i had money i'd get type r but if i didn't i'd get VTiR pick one up for $12000 if ur lucky don't worry aobut the KM's on it slap a B16a head straigh on and ur KW's will be the same as a ITR. i didn't want to tell anyone this but i had to let it come out! as u probebpy knwo me from posting the 14sec inetgra thread but a B16A is great even beta a civic type r head but i haven't looked into it. money is a big problem. but u can get B16A head and put cams and valve springs in cams do alot to a vtec engine! if u pick the right ones with right valve springs. full exhaust system 2 1/2 inche exhaust then ur laughing get a CAI and **** ur car will sound mean and still cost less than a type r and be quicker!!!! but u have to get ITR gearbox for LSD and closer gear ratios, best thing aobut that is it's even more of a sleeper than the ITR. and there u go boys with that info i gave u! u should get at least a 160 KW engine!!! AT LEAST. but most of u's would of probebly known that.!!!! and besdies with a VTIR full exhaust and a B!^ head and cams a cop wont know how much power ur running cos traight away cops look for turboa nd intercoolers. but the full exhaust and CAI might stuff u up abit cos they now can make u go dyno tune the car! but if u have mechanic friend ur mechanic urself u can change it easy!!!!! 1 day u get it all changed back if u work hard!
HOPE I WAS A HELP TOO U, i sort of trailed off a bit!!! i told u guys all this thats how i was gonan pull a high 13 liek is aid i would at calder but i ca'nt go on jan 14th becos my mate from work had soemone stack into him!!! and his car(180 got written off) hit from front and behind cos a drive comnig opposite was fell asleepa dn hit him , and both drivers had no insurance so he car is gone i had to buy his seats off him cos he needed money for christmas! and cos of the seats i copped a canary so untill i sort that out i can't go to calder! and the sets took all my money! and i still have tog et rails! so thats why i wont be running on the 14th and i ain't going to calder again iwth the car is the same shape i wanna run a beta time! u get me!!1 so if u wanna bag me bag me all u want but i don't care becos i did this for a mate! anyways back to the VTiR and ITR if u wanna have a complete package without modiying get ITR if u inetnd to sell later too but if u wanna buikd a car urself get VTiR!!!! sorry abotu writing so much peoples
man u on E.... hahahahaha....
HAHAHA Rukz speak english bro!!!!!! :D
lol sorry boys i got abit excited!!!! lol race EJ8??? how'd u know my name anways??? r u stalking me
16CTEG - didn't bother reading your post, but can you please use paragraphs/punctuations in future? Makes reading what you have to say easier on the eyes. :)
fabz - If you have the money, go the R. Otherwise, the VTi-R. Simple choices. :) As for the differences, do a search. It has been discussed before. Good luck in your search for a car.
Hey lol i dont even have my P plates yet :$ but am looking to buy 1 pretty much as soon as i get my Ps. I spose if i get a vti-r the power wont be to much either lol i can work on it eventually. And i wasnt sure what models were the same shape as the type r's. Is the type r worth the extra $$$$
I dont think any type R owners ever regretted getting a type-R over a vtir.Quote:
Originally Posted by fabz
For straightline, you can buy a vtir- spend the money saved on mods and get upto or slightly surpass Type-R level.
However for corners, would need to spend a fair bit of $$$ to match the type R handling ability. This is where a typeR over a vtir will really shine :D
it depends on what you want and how you want to drive it. the vtir is a nice car, its a bit more civilised then the R, but the R is more of a raw machine.
goodluck
I would mainly wanting it for looks to start with id probably put body kit, rims and lower it pretty much as soon as i could. But id want it to be able to beat stock vti-rs at least coz ther are quite of few young people around my area with them :D
y is that alot of young people only care about beating this and that. thats one way people have accidents. anyway, who cares if you get beating etc, there is always someone faster then you.
depends on your budget, both cars are an integra so if you want bodykit etc, then both will look pretty identical. you pay for what you get. R is quicker then vtir stock vs stock, but the catch is the R costs more ;)
OMFG 16CTEG, i got a massive migraine from reading your huge post lol
Please use paragraphs !!!!
And as for fabs, i dont even reccommend you getting a VTi-R let alone a Type R.
You dont even have your Ps and you' re already worried about wot car.
I mean you should buy a cheaper car and practice in that first, then once you get better in a yr or so, get a better car.
but thats just my opinion.
First choice is Type R, Second choice is VTI-R.
Too many different between Type R and VTI-R.
Carbon look interior, Recaro seats, Momo steering wheel, Light wheels, output of engine, sporty suspenion, factory front lip, Rear spoiler, Better brake system, LSD, close gear ratio, higher level CV system, Light weight, Better intake and exhaust.....etc.
in my opinion since u haven't even got ur licence yet, how about once u get ur P's go car shopping. take a test drive in each car... only then will u know wot u really want to buy for the money you have. else, all this talk even before sitting behind the driver's seat wont do alot for ya... it may give u a good idea of wot's got wot, but since u've listed that u mite have the option of either, try them and u'll know wot u want. :D
however with that said, if u have the money, go for type r definitely if ur after an all round performer... it's a racing bred car out of the factory, great handling (best fwd car in the world, as suggested by many), excellent power for a 1.8L, and it's NA meaning u won't dig a hole in ur pocket for petrol :D
else the vtir is an excellent option too... just a more civilised road version of the type r. and the facelifted model is similar to the type r exterior wise, minus the kit and 5 lugs basically, and all the goodies on the inside.
good luck on ur search and keep us updated :thumbsup:
i havent read all of it either, but i could say:
the 98+VTiR Teg or Civic is bretty good package, and value as well...
but even then maybe a 92 EG Civic could be good?
but a few q's, are you in Vic. or somewhere else?
is it your 1st car?
have you ever raced on a track?
what's your favorite colour???
doh, EK9 got me.
so, if you ain't got your licence,
a type R ia way too much,
a car that handlesalright is the VTiR Teg,
but you could even just get a civic to get started with,
my 1st ride was the 'mighty colt', '86 model with 8 speeds, lol! (colt drivers woudl know )
my gf owns a civic, i love driving it, it is great in motorkhanas too, but we are getting ahead of ourselves...
but i think i answered the postsQ with: Teg VTiR or Civic... :)
edit:
dont forget to click on here to find what your'e looking for:
http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/search.php?
look for discussions about the VTiR, and they will usually include a comparison to a Type R or two...
LOL @ Tinkerbell ;)
well, you can't say that a type r is way too much or too hard a car for a newbie driver... if that's wot ur saying, hehe. :p cos i drove a jdm itr and a ctr wen on my P's :D both were easy to drive, great for street. but then again it depends on the driver...
good for you, you must be good or lucky ;)
or both, lol!
i will def. say one thing, Type R's are safe as anything once you get to know them... DC2's that is...
lol, definitely lucky... not sure about good :D but going OT now... back to business ;)
it really depends on what your plans are for the car...
want to make a straight line weapon?
go for the vti-r and spend the difference in go faster bits and pieces.
want a great all round package to leave mostly stock?
type-r. i reckon it's got a great compromise between performance and comfort.
as for handling, braking and other performance meters- it's not a big task to bring the itr beyond the level of a stock R. a set of good shocks, springs, swaybars and a good wheel allignment already gets the turn in and adjustability sorted out. brake conversions are not hard to do, and i believe willwood kits are reasonably well priced now too. straight line takes a little bit more though, a good header, intake and exhaust on the vti-r should get you line ball with a type-r, add a hondata and it should be marginally quicker. tack on a kaaz lsd *chuckle* some custom gearing and away you go...
you'll never have the type-r envy that a real type-r gets, but if you aren't worried about that, the vti-r is still a good choice. it just needs a bit of attention :)
liek i said sorry boys i got abit excited when i wrote my reply! i trailed off abit sorry!
u boys are right a ITR is foolproof...almost it's probebly beta around corners than a WRX! and i liek it how vtec can't kick in when ur enigne is cold! but thats all vtec engine i think well at elast the DOHC VTEC engines! but the ITR is a complete package u dont' need to modifie it to go around a track it great speed and good cornering! and it's not bad for straight lien either but a VTiR is the go if u like straight line! just mod it abit and then very much almost god as a ITR for straight lien but no way it'd be as good cornering!
but if u really want cornering u should go a RWD cos drifting a corner is soo much more fun!:D
How much is the price difference between a VTIR and a TypeR anyway?Quote:
Originally Posted by ginganggooly
With all the modifications needed in terms of power and handling to get it to match or slightly beat a type R, wouldnt you be better off just getting the type R instead??
Guaranteed that you'll stack the car, no ifs or buts about it.
you got no P's yet and everyone stacks on thier P's.
don't waste a Type R, get some experience b4 you get one :)
no hard feelings bro, just the facts of life
not everyone stacks on there Ps :( lol
Why are u advising him for a VTIR for a straight line weapon when he could get a turbo car LOL. Stats say you's most likely to crash at least once within ur 3 years on P plates. Through out life time you will crash at least 3 times. So they say.
Daily driver, comfort & a mod potential :arrowr: the VTiRQuote:
Originally Posted by ginganggooly
Status, status & status :arrowr: the ITR
The ITR - not a car for MUSIC LOVERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:thumbdwn: :thumbdwn: :thumbdwn:
DUDE...use paragraphs!Quote:
Originally Posted by 16CTEG
My version of what you wrote;
u boys are right a ITR is foolproof...almost it's probebly beta around corners than a WRX!
and i liek it how vtec can't kick in when ur enigne is cold! but thats all vtec engine i think well at elast the DOHC VTEC engines!
but the ITR is a complete package. u dont' need to modifie it to go around a track. it great speed and good cornering!
and it's not bad for straight lien either but a VTiR is the go if u like straight line! just mod it abit and then very much almost god as a ITR for straight lien but no way it'd be as good cornering!
but if u really want cornering u should go a RWD cos drifting a corner is soo much more fun!:D
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Sigh...so much easier on our eyes. :)
Anyways, like most people have said, since you haven't even gotten your license yet, the wise thing to do is to take cars that you have a fancy for ,and that fits your budget, for a test drive and then deicde which car you wish to buy.
That way, you know you will feel comfortable in it. Don't close your mind to only the Honda range. There are many other choices out there.
Once again, good luck with it.
Be safe, and have fun.
First things first dude - call up a few insurance places and pretend you're about to buy a VTIR or a Type R - print off the specs of one of them and see how much insurance is. Ring around, but being a fresh P Plater will guaruntee you'll be paying through the nose - a $12000 car sounds good, but if you have to pay $3000 to get it insured (and you're going to want to do that comprehensivly if you're modding it) then you'd be surprised what you'll find.
There's an insurance thread - search.
Also, as someone mentioned, i'm pretty sure Type R's can't be driven by P Platers - the kW rating is, funnily enough, right on the cut-off by like 2 kW's or something. Fact: if a cop sees you, decides you're a 50-cent listening punk kid from dandenong with his seat so far back you can't see over the dash - chances are s/he's going to make sure you won't be legally allowed to drive the car. No point saving up all this money and having to sell the car a month later. Means you have more paperwork to fill out, more hunting through ads, more placing ads, stamp duty, rego, insurance etc etc.
If its your first car, buy something shit and cheap so you get the feeling of the road - how people drive, react, etc. Even if its just for 3 months. The last thing you want to do is feel invincible and end up on the news.
Go the VTIR, cause... at least you'll be able to drive it.
around 10 grand, a bit more or less depending on age, condition etc...Quote:
Originally Posted by Xenon
if you were planning to leave the type-r stock it's great, but why spoil such a nice compromise? you'd have just spent a fair whack of moolah for better seats, brakes, transmission motor, suspension- no point doing that if you're planning on replacing all that stuff later.
it'd cost maybe 4 grand to get the vti-r to approximately the same pace as a type-r, though it'd still be an inferior vehicle... but the minute you start looking into serious mods, it's another pot of satay my friend.
hey ginganggooly, can u name some of those mods included in your 4grand to get vtir up with the itr?...
ta man...
maybe out line approx price and power?! that would be o so lovly.
Hope this webpage helps.Quote:
Originally Posted by fabz
http://www.dohc-vtec.com.au/pages/li...udm-vs-jdm.htm:thumbsup:
Fabz!!! Two words and one letter: GO THE R
i'd start with the suspension becuase thats where it is most lacking. 240 odd for a rear swaybar and tie-bar combo, 800 on shocks, 300 on springs, 20 bucks on a castor kit and 120 on a wheel allignment (not the bob jane style one mind you). maybe make yourself some bracing for the rear too. you wouldn't believe the difference that makes to the car... make a cold air intake by butchering up your existing airbox for maybe 5, another 1500 on the exhaust and the rest on a hondata or proecu.Quote:
Originally Posted by kousoku
i know from driving the two cars back to back, that the suspension will feel more firmly suspended and tied down than a stock type-r. my one put out 108.6kw at mt druitt dyno, which i think is marginally more than a stock type-r makes there (maybe someone can confirm that for me). as i said, it's still not as "good" as a type-r, but the turn in will feel a bit more precise and it will have less bodyroll, the trade off is that it will have a stiffer ride, so don't expect the same comfortable ride you get in a type-r *chuckle*.
the exhaust will make it noisy too... but i like the noise. thems the breaks i guess :)
and before someone starts harping on about doing the same stuff to a type-r, don't forget about the law of diminishing returns. :o
After reading all of this i was too thinking VTi-R or Type R....I've made up my mind....I'm going for the TYPE R :D
I'm glad im 27 coz insurance for me with NRMA was $1887 but with AAMI it was $805.00....what a bloody difference!:confused:
Vtec Doesnt kick in when engine is cold i was under the impression that the oil had to be certain temp and engine etc...
or am i wrong
And the post
Insurance would be my main drawback....i had my p's for six months i wanted a type R but i couldnt afford the insurance every year
so i got the Vtir still a great car....when im 25 :P maybe
yeah man...AAMI will not let anyone under 25 drive the car at all....if u want a Type R i would wait until u r 25 or older. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by lerroy
Isurance can be a prick
Not much longer to wait now almost 25 :) heheQuote:
Originally Posted by BoneZeeŽ
thats a good price diff Might have to get a few quotes my insurance is coming up again soon
Quote:
Originally Posted by BoneZeeŽ
Yeah Well the pricks at AAMI wont let any one under 25 drive a gsi Fvcken dogs just cause its a 2 door :mad:
One important thing i haven't heard yet about Vtir or Type R is that Vtir comes with sunroof while the Type R only got a sunroof option in the 2000+ model, so if u think sunroofs are as important as they are to me, i'd go for the Vtir if i was gonna buy a 98-99 model Integra.
I was tossing between the two aswell before i bought one, but the sunroof option sold me!!!!
if you buy a vtir over a typeR cos of a sunroof then you definately made the right decision
This thread is almost a year old ?
take the lid off your airbox and try it...
wow this thread is over a year old! infact it is 2 years old!
but i haven't read it before and i agree with 00dc2... if that dude chose to buy a VTiR over the Type R coz he wanted the sunroof... then yes he DEFINITELY made the right decision... hahaha!
and to the THREAD STARTER, what did u end up doing? did u buy the VTiR or the Type R? if i read this 2 years ago i would say to buy the VTiR coz u mentioned that u wanted to put a bodykit, rims, etc. Stuff that u don't really do to a real Type R (unless they're lightweight wheels of course).
hehehe just read this today as well
i would agree with dc2rbody kits, wheels, sound systems etc... sounds more for a VTiR
yeah wouldnt mind to hear the tread start what they chose VTiR or a Typr R
Well if someone is choosing a Type-R over a VTi-R due to a sunroof then they obviously don't care as much about performance as you do, therefore they certainly made the right decision. The difference in ride comfort between the two is immense. Now ride comfort isn't in my vocabulary but i'm sure a lot of people care about it, girlfriends especially :)
If you care about "enjoyment" however, you'd have to be mad to opt for the VTi-R :D
Sound deadening is very important to many people, and you don't have to be mad to opt for a VTi-R. Fit Type R suspension incl sway bars etc and you have a very sharp car, don't underestimate until you've lived with it and you'll be surprised.Quote:
Originally Posted by string
I said that in the previous paragraph... By enjoyment I mean you bought the car purely to fang around :)Quote:
Originally Posted by T-onedc2
I effectively drive what you've just mentioned, but a DA9. The only benefit of the Type-R really is the stiffer & lighter chassis and better steering assembly, the rest is replacable or cosmetic.
I have ITR sussy etc on my DC2 and love the fact it's still quiet. Though I wish I had a close ratio box. I would certainly love the ITR but the noise would frustrate me at times.
??? Cheaper insurance sure. But you think the Lack of recaros, and momo steering wheels, and full black door trims and fake carbon fibre dash inserts are just as nice? IMO I think not. Also VTi-R's have that little compartment, inbetween the seats.Quote:
Originally Posted by tinkerbell
I think he would mean that the VTi-R with lack of Recaros etc is easier to live with day to day for the average person. Personally I'd love some Recaros in mine....Quote:
Originally Posted by ricki_kalsi
my 2 cents.
drive your mums car.
vtirs are great cars but ill choose a type r anyday if i had the extra money.
ricki_kalsi - the arm rest thing is gay ill trade my one for a type r one anyday.
Type R's in alot of ways are the "smarter" choice in terms of resale value and factory power. However, I think i would rather a VTi-R the price differance is just not worth it. I would rather spend similar money or a bit more on a S15 200SX.
In my opinion, if you have a VTi-R and you want to be able to out run a Type R, best thing you can think about is torque. A Type R only has around 2nm higher than a VTi-R. So Skunk2 Stage 1 cams, exhaust system, Intake Manifold, CAI and a remap. You will easily outrun a Type R in a straight line.
Even in handling, the Type R is still a factory car, so it still has to be ok for street driving. You could get better handling by spending the money left over on a nice set of Tein Coilovers and nice tires.
In some ways though, of course i'd rather own the R...just because of the fact it is a TYPE R.
might as well use the money to top up the budget and get a Type R.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sp00ny
Type R FTW!!
his point was that the VTiR would be faster...Quote:
Originally Posted by G_Vtec
hehe.. 8-10k car vs 21-25k car.
I'd rather the ITR, but if bfyb is going to factor into it, a vti-r with 10-15k worth of work to it is going to shit on a type-r from a great height, in pretty much any measure of performance.
i have owned both cars and from my opinion the type r is a much better car than a VTIR modded.
I endeavoured (spelling) to build up a vtir which i purchased for 8k to the same value as a ITR roughly 24k mainly to prove a point if u spent the same amount you could build something which is potentially better than a type R but more customised.....
This incl full respray, jdm front end, coilovers, type r interior, full exhaust and turbo setup.
As much as this car was fun to drive it was lacking something....doesnt feel as 'tight' as a type R. Not only that, end of the day with the amount of mods i had done to it, it was not a type r....
I recently acquired a dc2r and really enjoy driving it. Handling feels much more direct than my previous vtir. furthermore with simple mods the type r is much more fun....
just my 2c
i guess different people have different experiences?
maybe you were just unlucky, or didnt get good advice, or just chose the wrong parts?
You need to get the right bits for it... However, many moons ago, when my car was about 100k km younger, I'd done bolt-ons ecu + suspension. All up it was about 3k's worth of parts, and the car was great. In fact, after back to back driving against my mates ITR, i was very happy with the VTi-R.
This all ended when all the rubber parts shat themselves due to abuse and old age.
End of the day summation- the fundamentals are there for a very good, very similar package to the ITR. You will always be missing a couple of key components (thicker subframe, thinner front glass) but the rest of it all gets changed during the modification process.
I think the ideal package would be an ITR with a good header, good intake and good exhaust (quiet) along with a hondata/crome/pfc. Leave it like that and enjoy it. You maintain what is one of the best factory packages around and liberate a few extra kw, without destroying the character of the car
yeah there's nothin i can say
if your goin to get a intergra it's best of getin a type r
maybe you should try it out your self
It is worth considering also that a VTi-R for 8k is very cheap and well worn and will be a 93-95 model most likely, the chassis is at least 5 years older than an early 99 Type R.Quote:
Originally Posted by .::F[L]Y::.
An accurate comparison would be against a low km 98-99 VTi-R, which from my experience also feel tight with good suspension. I do realise the Type-R inherently has a stiffer chassis (edit: incl 98+ VTi-R see Tinkerbell's post #73) and overall will feel tighter anyway.:thumbsup:
If only more people had this philosophy :angel:Quote:
Originally Posted by ginganggooly
OK, just so everyone can STFU about stiffer chassis (no offence T-onedc2) ,
this is what was actually added:
http://www.itrsport.com/images/tech_...ech_body_r.gif
once you add coilovers, strut braces and lower tie bars to a VTiR, especially a post 98 one, (which has some of the chassis mods the ITR has as part of the 98+ facelift) then the "chassis stiffness" line is redundant.
Very True. I think over modifing a car is costly, time consuming and demeaning in most cases of the cars original looks and style. I think a VTi-R with a Exhaust (Skunk2), CAI, Intake Manifold and a tune, along with a full service will run nice, even without the addition of coilovers.Quote:
Originally Posted by ginganggooly
Not to mention any money you put into a car you are 90% likely to get a very poor return on it. Expessially if its a type r. Type R's hold their value better when they are either factory standard or are very close to standard. The Type R would obviously be a wiser choice if you were worried about resale value.
I know if i was to buy a Type R I would only add E/I/IM and tune. Maybe suspension if I could afford it. The original styling looks great! I think integra's dont look good when they have body kits, big mags or anything of the sort on them. Also, it gives the bogan's/wog's an excuse to call us ricers. ;)
Exactly ^^ (tinkerbell)
IMO, If your going to buy a type R and modify it, go all out, and don't be a soft about it. Obviously if you buy a car without sound deadening etc, harder sussy, race seats, LSD and all the other gismo's you obviously won't care about ride comfort. If you do care about this, a vti-r would definately be the car for you... or perhaps a GSi.... or maybe even a Toyota. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by T-onedc2
The Type R is a great car from factory, but there is soooo much you can do... not so much to make it quicker around a track, but to make it more enjoyable from day to day. I guess different people have different requirements. But if your slightly concerned that the Type R may be a bit hardcore for you, IMHO don't get one!
i own a Black 98' Integra VTi-R. At the time i couldn't afford a Type R as they were going for about $24K+. Looking back on it now... i wish i had of gone for the Type R. All the extra's you get and the fact its got a bit more balls it would have been worth the difference in price.
Having said that... i'm quite pleased with what i have now. I've made some minor mods to the engine and suspension and it drives well. As mentioned by previous posts, make sure you take into consideration the hidden costs of owning a type r such as insurance etc...
Good luck!
so what have you spent the $10 grand you saved on?
I'd quite happily do all the hardcore mods for a track car but if it's also my daily driver then sorry I'll be soft and go the sensible route.Quote:
Originally Posted by ricki_kalsi
would there be much effect if you added a sunroof to a type r?
why bring up a topic from the dead?Quote:
Originally Posted by vtegra