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hey guys ive recently brought a DC2R picked it up pretty cheap.. and been driving it around stock as a rock ... but i think its about time i put a few upgrades on it.. could any one help me with some good upgrades without having to crack open the engine? ill post some pics when i get time to take some photos !! thanks for the help!
Injen CAI, Exhaust, Headers?
Exterior - Optional side skirts/rear pods/Visors/Coilovers and the list goes on.
Please search before posting stuff like this up...
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As above...please search.
Example: Chuck in "DC2R Mods" into the search box and here are some of the useful threads you might want to flick through:
http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthr...light=DC2R+Mod
http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthr...light=DC2R+Mod
http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthr...light=DC2R+Mod
http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthr...light=DC2R+Mod
http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthr...light=DC2R+Mod
http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthr...light=DC2R+Mod
http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthr...light=DC2R+Mod
are u in brisbane?? saw a dc2r with the places 'TYPE RR'
is that you?
sorry yea i should of searched first !! umm what is a good brand for headers? around the 800$ mark? or is that too cheap? sorry yea im new to owning a honda so i dont really know much about good brands of headers etc
Wouldn't go past Toda.
I think there's one for sale here for DC2R around 1k.
Want to know the best upgrade for your car???
It goes by the name of Google.
Should use it sometime, it's amazing man.
First of all man, what is your budget?
Without cracking open the motor, your best bang-for-your-buck mods are:
-Intake
Look into getting a good Cold Air Intake, such as an Injen. You should notice gains in the mid-top end, and it will give you a nice note in VTEC ;) You'll be looking $420 + Shipping from JDMyard.
http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthr...-USA-*JDMyard*
-Headers
As has been mentioned, you really can't go past a good set of headers, and this is a worthwhile mod. Brands such a Toda/Spoon/Mugen can get pretty expensive ($1000+) but as with most things, you get what you pay for. Keep a keen eye out in the For Sale section, as you will find used items pop up every now and then and you can snap some up for a good price. Pretty sure there are some up for grabs right now!
-Exhaust
This is the last piece of the I/H/E (Intake/Header/Exhaust) combination. As with the headers, it just depends on what your willing to spend and how fast you want to go. Also keep in mind that if it's your daily driver, you might want to stay away from something super-loud, it can drone and you'll probably regret it after a while (personal opinion). Also don't forget about upgrading your catalytic converter when you do the rest of your exhaust system. Dont qoute me on this, but i've heard that the JDM Type R cat is pretty good?
With some new engine management (Hondata) and a good tune (to get things working together and maximise gains) you should be looking at anywhere between 110-125Kw's at the wheels.
if toda, mugen etc.. are out of your of your budget i recommend fgk ehaust, injen cai. With the headers i had mugen reps they did the job but yeh it's how much you have and willing to spend.
Well I got a friend selling a toda exhaust all the way through for $1400.. So I was thinking of buying that but didn't know if it was cheap or didn't know about toda if they were a good brand or not.. I put a injen intake on it a few days ago and vtec sounds amazing!! As for speed I don't want anything too fast maybe something to give a dc5 abit ofa run?? Yea n I don't want something too loud as I do drive it everyday n am on my p's so it will attract alot of attention from the cops.. Thanks steve I'm gna look into fgk tonigt when i get home from work thanks for the help!!
Toda = Win.
toda is one of the best headers you can get. definetely a good brand.Quote:
Originally Posted by myrx8u
u want something to give a dc5 a bit of a run?? as far as i know stock vs stock, dc2r is already slightly faster than a dc5r..
in regards to exhausts, i have a fujitsubo rm01a, it is very quiet on idle and low revs and is still loud enough in vtec. this will cost you in the 800-1300 range depending on if you buy brand new/used etc. it is a very nice upgrade from the stock exhaust. but if you have the money i personally think you should get the j's racing 60RS. it sounds amazing. this is a quote from someone who has tried both rm01a and 60RS that is.. (it's vtecmachine):
"I tried a few exhausts on the DC2 (Stock, BuddyClub Spec III, RM01A, Spoon N1 and J's Racing Ti 60RS). The J's exhaust flowed the best, and sounded the best, the Spoon was the second best. The rest I didn't like - in terms of response and mid range power." - note that all of the exhausts he's tried a renowned brands.
also make sure to get a hondata as mentioned above or a power FC and get it tuned properly to get the most out of your mods..
i personally have toda header, mugen intake, RM01A, power FC and the last owner who dynoed it got 130kw atw. quite good for na imho considering it's all bolt on parts.
also when you said upgrades for your car, did you just want more power? i mean intake/header/exhaust/ecu +tune is pretty much all you can do without opening up the engine as far as i know - please correct me.
i would personally focus more on handling mods like coilovers etc.. at the end of the day its up to you and what you want to improve in your car, but dc2r aren't exactly famous for being fast(and like most na cars they're known to need a lot of work to be able to go ALOt faster) so why not improve something that the car was designed to do best?
of course if you have a lot money to play with, do both.
+1 To this. Rep for youQuote:
Originally Posted by rice_spirit
How much are you selling the injen intake for man? I have a friend with a dc2 also looking to buy a intake? Thanks
Do handling/braking mods first man, power comes later
Yea well I was looking into buddyclub coil overs but then apparently you lose slot of ride comfort and driving on bloody parramatta road every day is sort of a pain in my ass already.. So that's why I thought I'd do intake n exhaust,ecu first and then do coil overs but if you guys reccomend coil overs first then i guess I will do that I mean I'm happy with how my vtec sounds now with this intake so yea.. What you mean by braking mods like braided break lines and drill n slotted discs??
I'd go with the toda header as it is a 4-2-1 design which gives you power in mid to top end. If however, you want top end power only (such that you're be tracking more than daily) a 4-1 design is better as you'd be constantly on top end. As for intakes, injen CAI's offer good gain and sounds great on WOT however, a spoon cleaner is functional enough. Because of how the stock airpod is situated in the DC2Rs, that is on the drivers side (from memory), it's already far enough not to be affected by heat unlike the DC5R's.
For catbacks, since its going to be unopened and kept NA (i'm assuming), Fujitsubos and mugen twin loops are the way to go imo. They're nice on vtec but even better on daily driving and sneaking back home. Unless that is, you want everyone to know you're home then I'd suggest going for louder exhausts i.e. the J's Racing. There are other options too i.e. toda, buddyclub, apexi etc etc but really bang for your bucks, i'd recommend fujitsubo and mugen. Also cause they look nice :thumbsup:
I've seen you around QUT sometimes so be nice to see the updates.
It's not man. Go have a look at some stuff from best motoring, they make videos and what not. But have a look on youtube for some "VTEC Club" stuff. That's like a sub category to best motoring.Quote:
Originally Posted by rice_spirit
The Buddyclubs are among the softer coilovers out there imo, perfect for daily driving, I have them in my teg and just set them fairly soft (gf complains ride is too rough)Quote:
Originally Posted by myrx8u
If theres a day that you want to run natio or track just adjust the damper and you're good to go :)
just putting this out there...best motoring will likely be comparing jdm dc5r to jdm dc2r, seeing as it is a japanese program... difference between audm dc2r and jdm dc2r is very little, difference between audm dc5r and jdm dc5r is a lot.Quote:
Originally Posted by newpaddy3
the general consensus is that the dc2r stock is slightly faster than the dc5r stock - audm to audm.
i personally have never tested this but believe it to be true.
to re-iterate what a few have said:
toda headers are extremely good - i would go so far as to say they are the best from the few tests i have seen.
fujitsubo and mugen exhausts are quieter than spoon or js racing exhausts. you will get power gains from the former however you will get more power gains from the latter. the difference is apparently quite large (test between mugen twin loop on a dc5 and some other exhaust on a dc5) however i am skeptical of this so decide based on whether you want loud, super fcking loud, or reasonably quiet.
aparently if you do all the bolt ons, with a tune, you could be looking at upwards of 125kw atw, which you will feel.
i'm not sure if you've said this but how long have you had it for? i mean, if you can afford to mod by all means go for it but i would be hoping that you are getting close to maxing out the potential of the car as it is doing whatever it is you are doing.
the reason i say this is i can understand you wanting more power. it takes very little time to get used to how quick the car is.
but i would only start playing around with the suspension and stuff if you are already using the current setup to it's max....just my opinion....otherwise it's probs a waste of money.
oh and one last thing, what tyres are you running? because that's a very nice upgrade imo. get some semi slicks. you'll be quicker 1/4 mile and quicker round the corners.
I myself have not tested this either, and reseaching I could not find a definitive test between the AUDM models, so I'll post some facts and you all can decide for yourselfs which one is fast to 100km per hour.Quote:
Originally Posted by pure_na
DC5R
Power 147kW @ 7400rpm
Torque 192Nm @ 6000-6000rpm
Kerb Weight (kg) 1160
6-speed transmission
DC2R
Power 141kW @ 7900rpm
Torque 178Nm @ 6300-6300rpm
Kerb Weight (kg) 1087
5-speed transmission
So who knows, maybe being 73kg lighter is enough to combat more power, more torque, and more gears.
Looks sexier any way.
But for the sake of being extremely technical and a desire to be right, the DC5R has a higher top speed :)
Meh numbers are numbers.
nah i wont be tracking it daily... probably wont be tracking it at all i mean with work and all i really got no time to do anything accept go to work come home and go to sleep haha! so yea a 4-2-1 would prob be best thing for me.. and ive got kuhmo KU36 tyres on the front and back.. good tyres from my opinion they grab traction straight away and handle pretty good at high speed and apparently they are street slicks im not too sure just what a friend of mine told me... yea i think ill leave the suspension until after i get a exhaust and ecu going on it.. im happy with the ride height and how it handles at the moment.. thanks heaps!
ill suggest get I/H/E first then coils, rims and interior then turbo =P
i got a dc2r too, it handles great but once u have coils on, ur car turns into a totally different car.
i got catback and intake mod atm, n planning to get coils bfore i get some headers, coz i want to lower my car and it just handle great
haha yea man thats what im going for IHE first then suspension next but dont think ill be changing the rims/interior im just too inlove with the Recaro seats and the Type R rims !! oh yea which reminds me does anyone know if i can like get my drivers side recaro re stitched so the sponge looks normal again ( not the whole thing just the bottom right sponge thing).. its only the drivers side... the owner before me was a fairly big guy and he just couldnt get in n out of the car without pressing up against it and really looks ugly haha so wouldnt mind getting it re stitched if anyone knows ! thanksQuote:
Originally Posted by tiah313
hmm what exactly do you mean by restitched? well the things at the bottom of the recaro seats that hold the driver in place are called bolsters, if they are saggy or broken from not getting in and out properly you can buy brand new recaro bolster foams and replace them.Quote:
Originally Posted by myrx8u
you can buy the bolster foams from here:
http://www.capitalseating.co.uk/prod...e&rid=61&mid=2 - just scroll down till you see bolster foam
although i hear you can source them for cheaper on ebay but at the end of the day it'll be in the 100 dollar range which shouldnt be a big deal to you seeing how you are getting I/H/E :P
there is a DIY of how to replace the bolsters here:
http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthr...rs.-EASIER-WAY.
best of luck
ahah thanks heaps rice !! thats exactly what i was looking for!! but are they going to fit 100% and not look like one sides bigger than the other?
think u can buy for both side n then diy =)
Haha thanks but only need for the driver side .. And also there's the other sponge part above the bolster can that be replaced also or cAn thatnot be done?
are u in melbourne?? coz i know theres a shop in clayton sells the bolster but forgot the addy, think some member could help u. if yea u could just go and ask them if they got any
Hey! Congrats on the purchase, never got tired of my DC2R when I had it.
One of the single best mods I have ever experienced in a DC2R, was driving one which had Mugen rear brake pads + a new set of stock DC2R brake pads on the front. It evened out the brake force (front to back) and compared to my bone-stock DC2R was able to be scarily brave coming into a corner.
Other than that, I also run a Spoon filter - definitely noticed this working well when going for a late night burst.
Handling wise, I also bought the rear Type R strut brace - this makes a big difference to in-corner speed. Before the strut brace, you can hear the rear tyres start to squeal, just reminding you their about to let go - After strut brace: they squeal but it takes alot more speed and force to make them slide. Almost makes the DC2R perfectly neutral.
Cheers, D.