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hi guys
im looking at buying some oG's and i c alot of car with stretched tyres and they look gangsta as do u think it better to get normal tyres ? ups and down with stretched tyres... only asking before i buy the rims and do u guy know any where to buy them at a good price ? JDM JARd quoted me $1120 with 195/50/15 firenza st08 tyres or 780 without the tyres good price or should i shop some where else ?
thanks guys
stretched tyres put stress on the sidewalls as they werent designed to do it, but some tyres are better for stretching than others
stretched tyres let you fit a wider/lower offset wheels.
ive ran 195/50/15 nankang ns-ii tyres on my simmons and they were 15x8, as far as i see i had no problems with them, but thats probably because it wasnt a ridiculous stretch, and at the end of the day it depends on how stretched the tyres are, how well the tyres are maintained and how sensible the driver is
you can go here to check out what your stretched tyre would look like http://www.tyrestretch.com/
if you do a quick google search theres a lot of threads out there arguing whether or not stretched tyres are safe or not and if they're legal or not
i got 195/45 on sportmaxx's 15x8 ... Ride quality are bloody awful. Even though you're on springs..
But good thing is, as lukey said above*^
drifters stretch tyres, and they dont drive sedately.
as long as you maintain it and check ur tyres pressures reguarly youll be good
and the pressures need to be a tad higher than normal when stretching
but isnt it moar risk of popping it when going over a pot hole at a high speed ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Lukey
dodge potholes, and having it to low risks it coming off the bead when you got a big stretch
used to run 15'' og with 195/55r15 kumho ku31's
ran over a 10 cm pothole which i knew of by accident.
didnt sound very healthy, but came out no problem
<<<<< on that car
lol. people stretch tyres because there wheels are to wide. and if they ran a fat tyre it would not fit under guards.
so they go with a smaller tyre which will stretch the tyre to just sit under guards.
thats if your car is low. if your car is like high like 2 finger gap. and you have stretch tyre.
it will look silly. ive been in tyre business for about 4years now. and been stretching tyres for awhile.
and never had it poped off the bead. so im pretty sure its safe. thats my opinion
look at drifters. the drift on stretch tyres. and never seen tyre poped off rim.
unless they didnt fit the tyre on correctly.
and its illegal. you can be defected. tyre will be small for car. load rating will be wrong.
but if your guna run 195 50 15 should stretch alittle on 8inch rim. and should be fine.
195 45 15 will be stretching it abit.
my mate has axis og san 15x8 with 195 50 r15 re001. Theres a little bit of stretch, but nothing to wank over
thanks guys for ur help ive decieded to go with normal tyres, stretcheys look sick but to be safe go normal should i go 55 or 50 ?
where a good place to buy tyres from ?
should i buy some cheapys for my 1st set or go average ?
post ur pics if u have some.... anzai have any of ur car ? close ups
thanks guys
its the width of the tyre that mostly determines whether u will have massive stretch or not.
for instance for a 7 inch wheel, 205 tyres would sit flush with the edge of the wheels, 215 tyres is a tad wider, but still reasonable, 225 tyres is a bit pushing it, but i think mostly used on track/drag cars
for 8 inch wheel, i would say the "safe and legal" size would be either 215 or 225, from there its up to you to choose the profiles that would suit your car best, taking into account rubbing issues etc etc.
i found this from honda tech, just for your reference
i had 195/50/r15 on mine, this is raw fitment without camber kitQuote:
Originally Posted by toyomatt84
http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/2375/img0811pd.jpg
this is after camber kit (-3deg camber)
http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/3443/img1480ui.jpg
also, this has to be one of the best sites i've ever come across:
http://www.willtheyfit.com/
stretching will also depend on the brand/make of tyres as different companies make them slightly different to other companies.
i got 195/50 toyo t1r on 15x8 +/-0
http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot..._5750444_n.jpg
http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot...83_39598_n.jpg
http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot...5_385984_n.jpg
it will also depend on how low you are, how much guard work youve done and how much negative camber you are willing to run.
my rear camber is between -5 & -5.5 degrees and my front camber is around -4 degrees.
full car shot on how it sits/low it is.
http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot..._1132032_n.jpg
personally i think http://www.rimtuck.com/ & http://www.tyrestretch.com/index.php are alot more useful then willtheyfit.com
hope that helps?
What spring rate are your springs? Assuming its not sitting on the bump stops :D
buy it withput tyres i got 4 used re001s for $150 win win situation
dunno off the top of my headQuote:
Originally Posted by gumus89
Lol I change my mind might go strecheys after seeing lukey ride I like, ay mate where abouts did u get ur tyres from ? And how much ? And how's ur ride being that low and with strecheys ?
Cheers guys been very helpful
ive had those tyres on for a few years, cost me $160ea fitted back then. hows it ride? like a bucket of shit, lol, well something might see it like that but i dont mind it. i need to go to a smaller tyre as it rubs too much for my liking, will be going to a 195/45 nankang ns2 next.
I cant believe it would rub. There seems like plenty of clearance. .____.
Im surprised you havent been raped ten times over by police.
~5mm clearance. i think most of the rubbing issue is the big sidewalls.Quote:
Originally Posted by gumus89
i dont live in metro vic, i live out in rural vic
Bendigo is rural and they are the worst with the hoon laws. I am impressed though, but that might just be due to the fact that if you tried to drive on the roads I do you would raise it inches after one drive.
lol **** bendigo.
the town i live in is in my profile...
ive been driving like this for 5-6 weeks and not once been pulled over, driven past numerous cops.
haha i doubt i would raise it.
sup guys where a good place to buy tyres from ? Taleb Tyres good ?
where u from?
adelaide but i think interstate tyre joins are cheaper then here we dont have enough comp here
fair enough, you might find it hard to find a place that will fit a 195/50 on an 8" wide wheel
Bob jane is having a special on RE001's. Well they were a few weeks ago. Very cheap for 205/50/16 at least.
But then again, it was stock size.
any1 ...... looking for 195/50or45/15 for axis oG's
buy my toyos? lol
Lol how much tread left or u just jking ? If not how much
theyve only got 1000kms on them but i doubt any tyre shops will fit them since the sidewalls have been worn down xD
jus curious man, how does it handle? worse than before? lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Lukey
Obviously the cars a stanced out, an no track car, but for street use, can u even drive like that all days of the week?
its not the best obviously, but its better than on my king springs and blown shocks hah!
i cant corner with much speed, i can go pretty much everywhere i went before but i scrape everything, gotta stop/angle to go up/down/over things, it tram tracks a bit cos of the camber. the front uca (skunk 2 adjustable) hit on the strut tower.
i drive it every day of the week but wouldnt mind another car.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lukey
where abouts did u buy them from ? im looking for cheap cheap for my 1st sets
i bought them about 3 years ago from a local independent tyre shop for $160ea fitted & balanced.
they were the only place that would fit 195/50 on a 15x8 so i stuck to them, but i no longer go to any local tyre shops.