New CR-Z

Since I'm an Aussie, and this is an Australian Honda forum, I thought it might be an idea to start a thread dedicated to the 'coming soon' CR-Z.

There's no official release date as yet, and the best indication we have at present is some time in November. It can't be too far away, based on this recent article from carsales.com.au.

Price, depending on options, is likely to be around $35,000.

Speaking of options, nothing definite at this stage, but we're apparently getting the version with back seats and we'll be able to choose from either 6MT or CVT (rumour only).

If you've heard anything, or you're a dealer/honda salesperson with inside knowledge, or you're a potential buyer, post away!


Thanks to Estoque and ccn88 for the links.

im waiting for info on the Drive Day. should be this month. Ive seen 2 on the road they are Honda Cars.
As soon as i know ill post up

Bring a Type R CRZ!

^ doesn't exist so what can Honda Aus do??

Email just in from Honda Australia...

The CR-Z is launching on December 1! :cool:

interesting. but i'd rather get the FT86 (price depending).

Can't really compare it with FT86 though cause CR-Z is hybrid.

After 1 year in america and europe(man i really hate how australia gets things last).

But if i had the money i would get a KR-Z
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmOffqwWrJU

im booked in for a CRZ track day in melb on the 29th of nov. cant wait.

damn i hate you. to redeem yourself you better spill the price and spec now!! lol

haha i cant tell u what i know! there might be 2 spec levels....

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Originally Posted by UNLS1

haha i cant tell u what i know! there might be 2 spec levels....

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"povo" spec and "u can't afford" spec?? haha

both manual and auto are offered?

yes to manual and an auto!

First hybrid manual FTW!

Honda Malaysia brought like 100 units to Malaysia... without rear seats, just 2 holes behind where the seats are so its a 2 seater. I doubt can fit adults behind though

yeah there is no room in the back unless u have no legs. the integra was similar

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Originally Posted by UNLS1

yeah there is no room in the back unless u have no legs. the integra was similar

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no way. the problem with Integras are the lack of head room. there are adequate leg room if the front passengers aren't too tall.

CRZ would probably be like the old CRX.

oooer just got allocated my new demo CRZ luxury in turquoise horizon blue! :D

^^ pic or ban lol

bahaha as soon as i get it ill post up. just going to get tint and mats. really looking forward to the drive day now!

got the CRZ melb launch this wed night!

Saw the white version of the crz on the weekend!! Looked pretty mean from a far in the rear mirror, with the daytime runing lights, plus the driver was speeding down princess highway.

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Originally Posted by UNLS1

got the CRZ melb launch this wed night!

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u got details man?

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Originally Posted by Snoop_gee

u got details man?

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as i said, the launch this wed night.

Is that launch only for dealers or public as well?

dealers

So does that mean you'll have info on accessories/colours/spec levels etc. on Thursday?

2 weeks after an email from Honda Australia stating launch day was December 1, the CRZ website still says 'late 2011' launch. An update would be much appreciated.

i know the colours, i know what models and i will know deff specs tomorrow night and i hope prices.

it will be fun indeed and exciting for alot of us. Ill find out when honda is releasing all these details to the general public.

Base (velour) and luxury (leather). But I hope they have a regular spec and a sporty spec (bucket sporty seats) instead.

Driveline-wise, it will probably be the same since it uses the Honda Insight drivetrain.

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Originally Posted by Atjo

Is that launch only for dealers or public as well?

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thats wat i meant.

Anyways i got to spot 1 Yesterday.
in the right colour also
http://www.redpepperracing.com/galle...1/IMAG0193.jpg

cr-z or sp20?

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Originally Posted by Snoop_gee

thats wat i meant.

Anyways i got to spot 1 Yesterday.
in the right colour also
http://www.redpepperracing.com/galle...1/IMAG0193.jpg

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damns nice catch. no point to lock it up in dealers until launch day, as this driver spoils it all haha

great times last night there will be a sport version and a luxury.

Price(s)?
Colours?
Specs?

When will Honda in its infinite wisdom release the information that buyers actually require when considering a purchase? What's the point of the delay? Are we worried Toyota might steal important secrets?

mate the car has not been released yet. It will be on DEC 1st. media get the launch today.
its not big secret its just the car is not released yet. simple.
im sure buyers can wait a week or so

lol... more than 4 years since it was announced, over 12 months since the USA and Japan got it... we've been waiting way more than a week. But you're right... 1 more week is nothing in comparison.

I wonder if the 'loud noise/rattle' issue in the US model has been resolved in the Australian model.

who knows?! i suppose we will find out next week lol

Our questions answered...

Click here

Info here:

$34,990+ for base manual

http://www.themotorreport.com.au/529...e-in-australia

http://www.themotorreport.com.au/529...-for-australia

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Originally Posted by UNLS1

yeah there is no room in the back unless u have no legs. the integra was similar

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WTF? Compared to s15 or RX7, to name a few legless examples, Integras have doable rear leg room and can fit smallish adults.

my wife fit in the back of mine with a wedding dress on. Yeh i made her sit in the back while I drove... lol jk i was in the back too :)

More info, see here


Honda's own estimate of total price including on-roads is closer to $45k... great!

Hmm, still no mention of colours...

I wonder if flashpro would work with australian ecus

Wow EXPENSIVE!!

I was interested in getting one but man those prices. For that amount of coin, you could get better cars :(

im taking the Luxury Home for the weekend. its the horizon blue colour. the storm silver looks good too! other colours are prem white, black and milano red.

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Originally Posted by chunsa

Wow EXPENSIVE!!

I was interested in getting one but man those prices. For that amount of coin, you could get better cars :(

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So what price range were u expecting??

Focusing on Honda only. If I wanted fuel efficiency I would opt for the Honda Jazz. Cheaper, more utility and based on the American forums very similar speed.

For top of the range CRZ you are then entering the Civic Type R range. For "sporty" you would go for the FN2 and even then I would look at other manufacturers.

Comparing to another hybrid would be the Lexus CT200h. For most people badge snobbery wins and you could get a base CT200h around this price range too (for the price of a top of the range CRZ).

As loyal as I am to Honda's I cannot understand this price point - driven alot of Hondas, converted my family to Hondas but now competition has really caught up. Over in the states they have priced the CRZ reasonably close to the Honda Jazz. Makes sense to me as you are just paying a few thousand for a more "sportier" car with similar fuel economy. I do not understand paying over 10,000+ more.

Likewise with the Mitsubishi iMiev sitting at ~$50,000 I would not consider it. Are they targeting people who are concerned with fuel economy or helping the environment here? Helping the environment is one thing but if that was the serious point why don't the government help subsidise it? (People who are "helping" the environment don't even drive cars that often - my observation)

I was really expecting a price under $30,000 to beat the VW Polo GTi. I see that as comparison. And what happens when the Hyundai Veloster pops out?

I just really need to understand who is the target market for the CRZ? Honda Enthusiasts? /ramble :(

Make sense

late 30's to 40's for a hybrid. Geez.

At least make it work the while and put a decent motor.
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6040/...30ff0aa7_b.jpg

i enjoyed driving it for the weekend, it is a fun little car to drive and nice and light and it had more zip than i expected.
i would have to agree with the price point, for the same $$$ u could get a euro lux nav! I guess it will be a niche market car.

Ill learn more at the track day tomorrow

spotted one today, looked great driving.

would be keen for one but as others have said not for that $$$

might wait for a damaged one and k-swap it...

now just need to win the lotto.

I think it's expensive because the hybrid technology itself still expensive to make. If all car manufacturers have at least one hybrid model i think it will become cheaper.

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Originally Posted by Dems

spotted one today, looked great driving.

would be keen for one but as others have said not for that $$$

might wait for a damaged one and k-swap it...

now just need to win the lotto.

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w0Rd!

Ok, Honda or Toyota (lexus) hybrid? All the review compares CRZ with Prius, but it should've been compared to CT200H. I think I still go for the Lexus because of the build quality (interior in CR-Z are so full of plastic, the sun light bounced on it)

yeah but the lexus looks like a pumped out corolla and the CRZ leaves it for dead in the looks dept.

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Originally Posted by UNLS1

yeah but the lexus looks like a pumped out corolla and the CRZ leaves it for dead in the looks dept.

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I loved the exterior and the futuristic dashboard, but bad quality can be seen immediately... :(

i cant see the bad quality im sorry.

I don't think bad quality are the right words, but Lexus definitely has better interior material than any Honda.

lexus should have a better build than any honda! it is LEXUS!

i dont know whats in the honda australia / govt thinking.. i saw the price and shake my head.

i was having a chat with murakami-san from js racing and was told this car is selling very well in japan because japanese govt gives heaps of incentives to buy hybrid car that makes the car cheaper than conventional car. for us we were slapped with premium price to go green. go figure!

they should include as part of their carbon reduction scheme to give incentives for us to buy green car as well since car emit carbon (heaps of cars in australia)

i know dealers wants to make money like any other business but just not seeing how people will be buying this car in this period where everyone is cautious how the $$$ is spend.

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Originally Posted by UNLS1

lexus should have a better build than any honda! it is LEXUS!

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with same price as Honda :)

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Originally Posted by hondar

i dont know whats in the honda australia / govt thinking.. i saw the price and shake my head.

i was having a chat with murakami-san from js racing and was told this car is selling very well in japan because japanese govt gives heaps of incentives to buy hybrid car that makes the car cheaper than conventional car. for us we were slapped with premium price to go green. go figure!

they should include as part of their carbon reduction scheme to give incentives for us to buy green car as well since car emit carbon (heaps of cars in australia)

i know dealers wants to make money like any other business but just not seeing how people will be buying this car in this period where everyone is cautious how the $$$ is spend.

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Japanese govt would want to help their car industry by giving incentive for hybrid cars which at the moment are most Japanese made.

we don't produce any hybrids so why would our govt wants to help foreign companies.

unfortunately with most things green/organic. you have to pay a premium for them.

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Originally Posted by UNLS1

lexus should have a better build than any honda! it is LEXUS!

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Originally Posted by denot

with same price as Honda :)

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but the cheapest CT200H isn't that much more exxy than the CRZ lux. with similar performance, 2 extra doors and usable rear seats. and it's a godamn LEXUS!!!

(i know i know, one is a "sports car" while one is a hatch. we have to pay premium for "sports car")

Dont get me wrong, if the price is right (RRP under 30k) I definitely buy the CRZ over CT200H. It just the price I'm concern about.... another 5k you can get CTR? or for the same price (as stated by UNLS1) you can get Accord Euro.

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Originally Posted by Philip Lee

we don't produce any hybrids so why would our govt wants to help foreign companies.

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Dang! And I thought Camry hybrid is Made in Oz like our "camry"

^CTR? completely different thing... apples and oranges

saw one the other day being test driven :D

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Originally Posted by denot

Dang! And I thought Camry hybrid is Made in Oz like our "camry"

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yeah but u think our govt will favour Toyota over Ford and Holden??? think about the media outrage......

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Originally Posted by denot

Dang! And I thought Camry hybrid is Made in Oz like our "camry"

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I actually prefer the new 2012 camry hybrid from Japan. I'd pick that over even an Accord Euro!

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Originally Posted by aaronng

I actually prefer the new 2012 camry hybrid from Japan. I'd pick that over even an Accord Euro!

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Saw one in flesh @ AMLUX and looks really good... So will they sell those here as Aurion Hybrid?

But I still think CRZ is a good daily driving (just for me to drive to and from work)

pics please

i would have to say the manual is by far the most fun to drive! did a few laps on my own flat out around the track yesterday and that car was made for twists and turns. It even has a better exhaust note than a civic 1.8, jazz ect.

It is similar to the old CRX's, the were not high powered cars but a hell of alot of fun to drive and good on fuel. Sat nav/ glass roof and leather dont really bother me so the manual sports would be my pic if i ever was to buy one.

another thing, it has a shorter wheel base than jazz but is the same width as civic. has a 60/40 weight distribution also.

so keen to test drive one now!!

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Originally Posted by UNLS1

i would have to say the manual is by far the most fun to drive! did a few laps on my own flat out around the track yesterday and that car was made for twists and turns. It even has a better exhaust note than a civic 1.8, jazz ect.

It is similar to the old CRX's, the were not high powered cars but a hell of alot of fun to drive and good on fuel. Sat nav/ glass roof and leather dont really bother me so the manual sports would be my pic if i ever was to buy one.

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A true spruik if I ever heard one.

Similar to old CRX how? Old CRX was about power vs weight, on paper this car is not that at all. A big rasberry for that one!

i would have to say the manual is by far the most fun to drive! when is it not?

Better exhaust note than Jazz and 1.8 Civic? LMAO, those car's notes are crap. What about comparing it to a b16a CRX?

The car was made for twists and turns: out of the factory it will be a predictable understeerer like almost all production cars (type Rs and STIs being noteable exceptions). Without aftermarket sway bars and lowering springs cars like WRX and DC5 aren't that hot in the twisties. I seriously doubt this car is any different.

What about a balanced review that mentions both cons as well as pros my car dealer friend?



p.s. I've probably opened a can of worms here, but I feel it's my time for a rant, so let the shit storm begin!

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Originally Posted by Mikecivic78

I've probably opened a can of worms here, but I feel it's my time for a rant, so let the shit storm begin!

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have you ever drive one? or have you even seen one yet? Please test drive one before you can comment how "crap" it is. Thanks

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Originally Posted by denot

have you ever drive one? or have you even seen one yet? Please test drive one before you can comment how "crap" it is. Thanks

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I never said the CRZ was crap. I said the jazz's exhaust note is crap. Pls don't misquote me.

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Originally Posted by Mikecivic78

I never said the CRZ was crap. I said the jazz's exhaust note is crap. Pls don't misquote me.

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alrite cool! :angel:

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A true spruik if I ever heard one.

Similar to old CRX how? Old CRX was about power vs weight, on paper this car is not that at all. A big rasberry for that one!

i would have to say the manual is by far the most fun to drive! when is it not?

Better exhaust note than Jazz and 1.8 Civic? LMAO, those car's notes are crap. What about comparing it to a b16a CRX?

The car was made for twists and turns: out of the factory it will be a predictable understeerer like almost all production cars (type Rs and STIs being noteable exceptions). Without aftermarket sway bars and lowering springs cars like WRX and DC5 aren't that hot in the twisties. I seriously doubt this car is any different.

What about a balanced review that mentions both cons as well as pros my car dealer friend?



p.s. I've probably opened a can of worms here, but I feel it's my time for a rant, so let the shit storm begin!

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1.WHen designed they had the CRX in mind and wanted to get a similar shape and make it fun to drive aswell as good on fuel, im sorry u missed that at training yesterday.

2. alot of people dont buy manual anymore and like autos with paddle shift, alot of the feed back was that the auto CVT was much better than people expected.

3. The exhaust not is better than those non hybrid cars and sounds rather good, well in the track it did as everyone commented. We all thought being a hybrid u wouldnt hear much note at all, and under power it sounds rather good. (sorry i didnt see u there once again)

4. yes made for twists and turns, it hadles fantastic for a hybrid car compared to the others in the line up, it handles much better than civic and jazz. Once again i didnt see u on the track driving them.

5. if u want cons then fine, i needs a center armrest as standard, i dont like CVT in any car at all but thats just my opinion, i think more women will drive it and want to buy it, i think it is priced too high.

Why did you delete this last part of your last post? Here it is for everyone to see.

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mate well done to u for being a die hard old school honda fan! i dont like old little civics or CRX's but i dont go on here crapping on about it, i sell the things and have for over 7 years, i am not a die hard honda fan and in fact if i was to purchase a car tomorrow it would not be a honda but thats just my opinion.
pls stop holding onto the past, this is not going to be a hardcore TYPE R or CRX.
i think most of ur comments are just forum crap to be honest, i dont care as i said i just gave my opinion as an every day driver not a hardcore fan.

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You wouldn't buy a Honda, but you shamelessly sell them for your own interests. This is a forum for hardcore fans, not salespeople (unless you are a trader, and they pay to sell here). You post just to spruik your wares. Salesmen will say anything is awesome just to make a sale, that's my point.

You've been here for 6 years, yet have No reputation or trade ratings, so step the f**k off.

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Originally Posted by Mikecivic78

Why did you delete this last part of your last post? Here it is for everyone to see.



You wouldn't buy a Honda, but you shamelessly sell them for your own interests. This is a forum for hardcore fans, not salespeople (unless you are a trader, and they pay to sell here). You post just to spruik your wares. Salesmen will say anything is awesome just to make a sale, that's my point.

You've been here for 6 years, yet have No reputation or trade ratings, so step the f**k off.

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Hmmm if I have the money to buy a small run around car to & from work, this could be considered... Like I said the only thing that I'm dont like is the price... If Honda really wants to bounce back on the market, they should start lowering their profit margin to get more customer. Even UNLS1 (Honda salesman) share the same thought about the pricing...

honestly who give a rats about trade ratings? this is an internet forum ffs. i dont have reputaion?? once again who gives a flying F*&!
i come on here and give an opinion as a normal person not a hardcore honda fan. i dont come on here to sell cars either, just to give my 2c about cars coming out. Im not saying anything to make a sale, im just giving my opinion and that is it.

Normal people come on here to find out about Hondas in general. lots of potention honda future customers looking at 2nd hand and new ones. What i say is very valid indeed and there are many people on here who are not as hardcore as you so please gtfo!

i have sold almost 1000 hondas in my life and i have a fantastic trade rating....

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Originally Posted by Mikecivic78

Why did you delete this last part of your last post? Here it is for everyone to see.



You wouldn't buy a Honda, but you shamelessly sell them for your own interests. This is a forum for hardcore fans, not salespeople (unless you are a trader, and they pay to sell here). You post just to spruik your wares. Salesmen will say anything is awesome just to make a sale, that's my point.

You've been here for 6 years, yet have No reputation or trade ratings, so step the f**k off.

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Originally Posted by Mikecivic78

Why did you delete this last part of your last post? Here it is for everyone to see.



You wouldn't buy a Honda, but you shamelessly sell them for your own interests. This is a forum for hardcore fans, not salespeople (unless you are a trader, and they pay to sell here). You post just to spruik your wares. Salesmen will say anything is awesome just to make a sale, that's my point.

You've been here for 6 years, yet have No reputation or trade ratings, so step the f**k off.

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Chill out! We don't tolerate negative comments like that. This is an open forum, not just hardcore fans only.