Fake Hondata S300! Beware

After looking at the other post on fake hondata Kpro floating around, there now seem to be fake s300 around too. From hondata:
http://www.hondata.com/s300_counterfeit.html

Counterfeit S300 characteristics

Typically sold with an ECU as used on online forums for a low price.
The installation is poor, with bad soldering, missing / invalid serial numbers and missing or incorrect value components.

The counterfeits show some or all the following behaviors:

Failure to upload or datalog.
Random rev limits.
Failure to start
Corruption of ECU table data.

We do not advise driving your vehicle on a counterfeit S300 due to risk of engine damage.

How do I know if my S300 is authentic?
http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/6...ounterfeit.jpg

good post.

I wonder how many people have these and dont know it. A software/firmware upgrade will soon bring them out.

Mine has a bigger cooler, 10 or 11 rows, but has all the other genuine marks. Whats the go with that?

+1 Rep

Thanks very much for the info!

so they arent using honda ecu's?

you know the the bit that says hondata is the only part thats hondata, and the rest is the ecu from your car?

if your worried, then buy the hondata and solder it in yourselves :) just make sure you have a compatible ecu. i believe you need obd1 ecu from america, which is physically different from the australian delivered ones.

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Originally Posted by Scholzey

so they arent using honda ecu's?

you know the the bit that says hondata is the only part thats hondata, and the rest is the ecu from your car?

if your worried, then buy the hondata and solder it in yourselves :) just make sure you have a compatible ecu. i believe you need obd1 ecu from america, which is physically different from the australian delivered ones.

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You can use any OBD1 ecu here in aust too, as long as they are on the compatible lists of ecu's.

as above, you dont have to use the ASDM ECU, any compatible AUDM JDM EUDM ECU will work

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Originally Posted by Scholzey

so they arent using honda ecu's?

you know the the bit that says hondata is the only part thats hondata, and the rest is the ecu from your car?

if your worried, then buy the hondata and solder it in yourselves :) just make sure you have a compatible ecu. i believe you need obd1 ecu from america, which is physically different from the australian delivered ones.

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i was working on my on the weekend and was having a problem of the s300 not connecting 2 the comp. mate sent me this link 2day and i opened the ecu 2 have a look and oh joy 2 c that i had the counterfeit. bought it a while ago from a member on here and hadnt used it till last weekend and i cnt member any of his details. spent $700 on it and now i really cnt do shit about it

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Originally Posted by chubby steve

i was working on my on the weekend and was having a problem of the s300 not connecting 2 the comp. mate sent me this link 2day and i opened the ecu 2 have a look and oh joy 2 c that i had the counterfeit. bought it a while ago from a member on here and hadnt used it till last weekend and i cnt member any of his details. spent $700 on it and now i really cnt do shit about it

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dont remember the guys username?

farrrrrk thats unlucky man sorry to hear!

try an older version old SManager

We have identified Benny Tran of BYP Racing and Developments as an importer and seller of counterfeit K-Pros and S300s. DO NOT buy any Hondata products from this person. If you have purchased any Hondata products from this person, please check them for authenticity.

Doug Macmillan
Hondata Inc
Torrance CA USA

Note - we have updated the picture:

http://www.hondata.com/images/S300_g...ounterfeit.jpg

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Originally Posted by Hondata USA

We have identified Benny Tran of BYP Racing and Developments as an importer and seller of counterfeit K-Pros and S300s. DO NOT buy any Hondata products from this person. If you have purchased any Hondata products from this person, please check them for authenticity.

Doug Macmillan
Hondata Inc
Torrance CA USA

Note - we have updated the picture:

http://www.hondata.com/images/S300_g...ounterfeit.jpg

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Please contact myself or another moderator in regards to this matter , as it's illegal and we don't want such practices affiliated or run on ozhonda.

Doug, we merely bought it off a supplier from the US. No-one knew it was counterfeit. Since that supplier has ceased operation, we all know now why im sure alot of people have been scammed. I for one has 5 of them sitting here useless. I've since reissue refund and sorted out those customer with new V3 out of my own pocket.

Since the announcement of the ECU being counterfeit, I've tried to retrieve all of them

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Originally Posted by Hondata USA

We have identified Benny Tran of BYP Racing and Developments as an importer and seller of counterfeit K-Pros and S300s. DO NOT buy any Hondata products from this person. If you have purchased any Hondata products from this person, please check them for authenticity.

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Hi,thanks for the reply.

How did you come to ascertain this exactly?


Regards, Toby

ended up sending my s300 to hondata 2 get a genuine 1 put in

http://cache.blippitt.com/wp-content...en-Colbert.gif

^ the **** u eating popcorn for?

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Originally Posted by SXC-84K

^ the **** u eating popcorn for?

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there must be a good movie on foxtel or tv ...

might check it outz..

I've just checked my KPRO sold by BYP Racing & Developments, it is LEGIT. I know its not the best pic, but if u zoom in, you can clearly see there is a space between Honda and ta

http://i1096.photobucket.com/albums/...olegitmofo.jpg

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Originally Posted by r3ckless

I've just checked my KPRO sold by BYP Racing & Developments, it is LEGIT. I know its not the best pic, but if u zoom in, you can clearly see there is a space between Honda and ta

[IMtp://i1096.photobucket.com/albums/g327/chuckbung/For%20Sale%20Items/kprolegitmofo.jpg[/IMG]

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http://www.picslap.com/sites/default.../Gandalf_0.jpg

yeah sorry mate, but i wouldnt know the difference holding a camera or a gameboy.

kprolegitmofo.jpg

lolol

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Originally Posted by r3ckless

I've just checked my KPRO sold by BYP Racing & Developments, it is LEGIT. I know its not the best pic, but if u zoom in, you can clearly see there is a space between Honda and ta

http://i1096.photobucket.com/albums/...olegitmofo.jpg

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its suppose to also say V3 somewhere on the PCB ...

The were just resellers from another resellers/supplier from the states.

cant blame them if they had no idea they were being supplied counterfeits by the ceased shop/supplier.

we all in it for the game................of vtaaakkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk

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Originally Posted by IV73CI

its suppose to also say V3 somewhere on the PCB ...

The were just resellers from another resellers/supplier from the states.

cant blame them if they had no idea they were being supplied counterfeits by the ceased shop/supplier.

we all in it for the game................of vtaaakkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk

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I disagree.

most are in it for the money.

Truth

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Originally Posted by Bludger

I disagree.

most are in it for the money.

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If a reseller knew goods were counterfeit , and there was no public knowledge / scrutinty of this they would likely keep selling . All for the money. The issue here is we need to find out if said reseller was selling counterfeit goods knowingly or not.


Can ANY person that has dealt with and purchased a hondata unit off them ( benson / byp) please contact myself in regards to this matter.

Benjamin, myself and two others have bought a kpro each. All were checked and are genuine kpro. If i knew how to take photos and eliminating shadows, i would.

I think you need to tread lightly before outright accusing BYP of knowingly selling the fakes.

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Originally Posted by r3ckless

Benjamin, myself and two others have bought a kpro each. All were checked and are genuine kpro. If i knew how to take photos and eliminating shadows, i would.

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Enough with the Kpro talk

dude, we are talking about s300, not Kpro.

Some serious accusations here on this thread

got my s300 off byp a month ago, checked it tonight to be sure, and it's genuine

Im sure viewing the invoice and prices of the S300's bought would quickly sort out if someone knew they were buying legit or dodge items and then passing them on, just like the kpro's that were going round earlier and only being sold installed, were these S300's in proper packaging or just 5 chips, maybe those who have bought might care to comment?

i didn't buy mine seperately, i bought mine already installed in the ecu by the boys. didn't see this thread till last night, and double checked it tonight, seems to be all good,

i also bought s300 with ecu of byp and its totally genuine because i just checked my ecu now lol

This is why I buy everything myself from overseas suppliers. There is too much of this shit going around lately.

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Originally Posted by Benson

Doug, we merely bought it off a supplier from the US. No-one knew it was counterfeit. Since that supplier has ceased operation, we all know now why im sure alot of people have been scammed. I for one has 5 of them sitting here useless. I've since reissue refund and sorted out those customer with new V3 out of my own pocket.

Since the announcement of the ECU being counterfeit, I've tried to retrieve all of them

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Benny, wouldn't it be fairer to either offer a full refund or a direct replacement for the original kprp? Instead of having to fork out the extra $300 for the v3? Fair enough if you actually WANT to upgrade to a v3 but what if you just want a direct replacement for the counterfeit unit?

maybe the availability of the old one is no more, must use v3.

no matter the reason, cost should not be absorbed by the end consumer.

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Originally Posted by u mad?

Benny, wouldn't it be fairer to either offer a full refund or a direct replacement for the original kprp? Instead of having to fork out the extra $300 for the v3? Fair enough if you actually WANT to upgrade to a v3 but what if you just want a direct replacement for the counterfeit unit?

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this is actually s300 thread, you should post that in KPRO thread.
your mate is here on ozhonda?

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Originally Posted by Bludger

maybe the availability of the old one is no more, must use v3.

no matter the reason, cost should not be absorbed by the end consumer.

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this is correct, hondata only sell v3's now.

and i agree.

turns out mine is fake also,which is scary as i had none of the typical counterfeit kpro symptoms. would of had nasty surprise if i went to retune/update.

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Originally Posted by mocchi

this is actually s300 thread, you should post that in KPRO thread.
your mate is here on ozhonda?

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woops it is to.. and nope.

If a reseller wants to maintain a reputation there should be a full refund of parts and perhaps discounted labour etc ?

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Originally Posted by u mad?

this is correct, hondata only sell v3's now.

and i agree.

turns out mine is fake also,which is scary as i had none of the typical counterfeit kpro symptoms. would of had nasty surprise if i went to retune/update.

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Benny has sorted out this issue. Thanks.

I checked my hondata, and it's fake

all sorted now thanks