How to clear the K24 Power Steering in an EM1/EK OEM Bonnet??

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16-02-2012, 10:45 AM
IV73CI

How to clear the K24 Power Steering in an EM1/EK OEM Bonnet??

As the title says,

Apart from cutting the bonnet frame support,

has anyone done this and does the PS Pulley/Body clear the OEM bonnet?

Engine: K24
Chassis: EM1/EK

what has people done to rectify the clearance issues? smaller pulley? cutting frame? etc etc?

any ideas or someone has this working in their car?

thanks.
16-02-2012, 04:21 PM
Riced_Civic

if its only a few mm, lift the bonnet up with a few washers
16-02-2012, 04:24 PM
Oxer

Hammer?
16-02-2012, 04:32 PM
IV73CI

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oxer

Hammer?

Lol.. Def do the trick
16-02-2012, 04:33 PM
IV73CI

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riced_Civic

if its only a few mm, lift the bonnet up with a few washers

U sure this is wit the k24?? Mayb k20 but i think 24 has a higher block...
16-02-2012, 04:35 PM
u mad?

just cutabit of the webbing* out if you have to.

*dunno what its called
16-02-2012, 04:38 PM
IV73CI

Quote:

Originally Posted by u mad?

just cutabit of the webbing* out if you have to.

*dunno what its called

Its called bonnet support frame i believe.. And not spider web.. Lol hehe :p

Yeh some cutting is required even with a k20 ... (my mate has told me)

But what i wanna knw if k24 will clear it or how much fabrication is required or what retro parts, fittings can be done.
16-02-2012, 04:38 PM
Riced_Civic

not sure, it was just a suggestion. if it was a few mm, using the washers is just an easier way than doing any cutting to the bonnet.

if a 24 block does sit higher than a few mm and you want to keep ur OEM bonnet u may be forced to cut the bonnet webbing.
16-02-2012, 04:43 PM
IV73CI

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riced_Civic

not sure, it was just a suggestion. if it was a few mm, using the washers is just an easier way than doing any cutting to the bonnet.

if a 24 block does sit higher than a few mm and you want to keep ur OEM bonnet u may be forced to cut the bonnet webbing.

Yeh.. Looks like from the net that most ppl are cutting the frame.. Which is fine to me,

But others are saying that even cuttng it will hit the actual bonnet surface alredy..

I need a better clarfication frm someone who has done this etc etc
16-02-2012, 04:59 PM
tripleuse

http://www.k20a.org/forum/showthread.php?t=28179
seems to work
16-02-2012, 06:26 PM
IV73CI

Quote:

Originally Posted by tripleuse

http://www.k20a.org/forum/showthread.php?t=28179
seems to work

Thanks dude

Ive read this, but this is for a k20 engine and not the k24.

I need examples of k24 engine wth the PS in an ek.
16-02-2012, 06:53 PM
tripleuse

oh sorry i thought they were both the same height. good luck man.
16-02-2012, 07:29 PM
DakDak

I think the K24A3 shits about 12mm higher than a K20A
16-02-2012, 07:38 PM
GU357

^ lol shits XD
maybe you could cut the webbing and tap out a lil pattern in the bonnet with a hammer?
16-02-2012, 08:34 PM
IV73CI

Quote:

Originally Posted by GU357

^ lol shits XD
maybe you could cut the webbing and tap out a lil pattern in the bonnet with a hammer?

I could, and the furthest i would go is cutting off the frame/webbing..

Im not going to bulge a lump on the bonnet .. Lol dats shit heheh

The other end (surface) will have a bulge on it lol..

Haah dat would be ghetto hehe
16-02-2012, 09:07 PM
GU357

nah make a stylish bulge, nice n neat one so it looks sick like the bulge on a ford bonnet.

ya dig
16-02-2012, 09:26 PM
IV73CI

Quote:

Originally Posted by GU357

nah make a stylish bulge, nice n neat one so it looks sick like the bulge on a ford bonnet.

ya dig

Tru dat.. Or ill just buy a nice small scoop that is sealed frm the top but underneath it is the pulley.. Lol
16-02-2012, 09:27 PM
mocchi

what mounts you using?
16-02-2012, 09:41 PM
IV73CI

Quote:

Originally Posted by mocchi

what mounts you using?

Got no choice but to use ekk1 as ive got the factory ABS..
17-02-2012, 02:15 PM
mocchi

Quote:

Originally Posted by IV73CI

Got no choice but to use ekk1 as ive got the factory ABS..

oh ok, i read egk1 moves engine bit more to the back, giving bit more room.
i assume by positioning engine bit more back, will also give bit more bonnet room.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hybrid Racing's Ultimate K-Swap Guide.pdf

Changing to the EG/DC subframe is NOT required. It is very possible to have the swap running
and working with the stock EK subframe. However, because it requires the engine to sit so far
forward, the space in front of the engine is reduced, and it requires the use of longer axles.
The benefits of the EG/DC subframe are worth the effort. You will be able to run longer intake
manifolds, such as the RBC, RRC, ect. The axles and engine are moved towards the firewall
for better placement and weight distribution.
The EG/DC subframe swap requires the following parts:
• EG/DC subframe
• EG/DC front lower control arms
• EG/DC front compliance arms & bushings
• EG/DC steering rack (manual or power, depending on preference)
• Steering rack u-joint (which joint used depends on the model of car and if power steering was standard]
• EG/DC subframe bolts! (This is very important as the EK uses different bolts and they will not work!)
17-02-2012, 02:37 PM
IV73CI

Quote:

Originally Posted by mocchi

oh ok, i read egk1 moves engine bit more to the back, giving bit more room.
i assume by positioning engine bit more back, will also give bit more bonnet room.

thanks bud.

yep ive read this...but im not prepared to go down the subframe path ..(due to $$ restraints) ... :(
17-02-2012, 02:48 PM
mocchi

got itr subframe and rack with all lcas $150+shipping!
17-02-2012, 02:55 PM
senna

Just shut the bonnet real hard and it will "form" around the P/S no probs man!

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ly...byljo1_500.gif
17-02-2012, 03:43 PM
tripleuse

^ lol thats what i did.
17-02-2012, 04:57 PM
IV73CI

Quote:

Originally Posted by mocchi

got itr subframe and rack with all lcas $150+shipping!

Das dirt cheap man.. Lucky..
17-02-2012, 04:57 PM
IV73CI

Quote:

Originally Posted by senna

Just shut the bonnet real hard and it will "form" around the P/S no probs man!

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ly...byljo1_500.gif

Lol bruz
17-02-2012, 05:00 PM
mocchi

Quote:

Originally Posted by IV73CI

Das dirt cheap man.. Lucky..

im saying i have that for sale lmzo
17-02-2012, 05:00 PM
u mad?

just use no power steering, feels better anyway.
17-02-2012, 05:02 PM
IV73CI

Quote:

Originally Posted by mocchi

im saying i have that for sale lmzo

Lol.. My bad juz got off the plane.. Lol

I cant bruz,
I got em1 with abs.. Cant delete ot or i wont pass engineering cert. :(
17-02-2012, 05:03 PM
IV73CI

Quote:

Originally Posted by u mad?

just use no power steering, feels better anyway.

No PS??

Could i leave abit of PS fluid inside the hoses to the steering rack and block it off? This way its still lubricated.. Lol
17-02-2012, 05:06 PM
mocchi

or if you really want ps, can use ehps setup.
17-02-2012, 11:52 PM
IV73CI

Ehps setup???
18-02-2012, 06:51 AM
grifty

why not convert to electric power steering?
18-02-2012, 08:03 AM
IV73CI

Quote:

Originally Posted by grifty

why not convert to electric power steering?

Looked into that bud..

Costs more than the eg/dc steering rack, subframe, lcas..

Expensive ass lol
18-02-2012, 08:59 AM
mocchi

well it aint a b16 swap

http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/customa...ar28865_10.gif
18-02-2012, 09:04 AM
IV73CI

Quote:

Originally Posted by mocchi

well it aint a b16 swap

http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/customa...ar28865_10.gif

I had a b16 lol...
18-02-2012, 10:08 AM
defect

a k swap isnt a k swap unless you use eg subframe.
if you want clearance. use the ekk2 mounts and eg subframe.
18-02-2012, 12:01 PM
EM1

Quote:

Originally Posted by IV73CI

Lol.. My bad juz got off the plane.. Lol

I cant bruz,
I got em1 with abs.. Cant delete ot or i wont pass engineering cert. :(

Got the same set up in my car running ekk2 mounts dc2r subframe with k24 and there isn't any problems with abs, might have to modify the headers to clear the abs depending on the headers you run, but in can be done. The power steering pump will just clear the surface material of the bonnet with the frame guttered but will touch on hard launches.

The skunk2 kswap headers clear the abs with no mods
18-02-2012, 12:37 PM
IV73CI

Quote:

Originally Posted by EM1

Got the same set up in my car running ekk2 mounts dc2r subframe with k24 and there isn't any problems with abs, might have to modify the headers to clear the abs depending on the headers you run, but in can be done. The power steering pump will just clear the surface material of the bonnet with the frame guttered but will touch on hard launches.

The skunk2 kswap headers clear the abs with no mods

Do i need to change over the steering rack? Or just the subframe & lcas?
18-02-2012, 12:52 PM
lemmiwinks

Lower the engine mounts and put spacers in between. Make sure your bolts are nice and long.
18-02-2012, 05:35 PM
EM1

Quote:

Originally Posted by IV73CI

Do i need to change over the steering rack? Or just the subframe & lcas?

I used a complete dc2r sub frame with rack and control arms.

If you want to get it engineered you would have to exhaust wrap the headers or make a heat shield for the abs unit. Heat wrapping the headers would be probably be an easier option.