MR 2 SLOW

The other night while i was at the runs this Lancer MR schooled a mr2 for a race. not expecting the MR to stand a chance the mr2 lost by bout a car length.
When the coppers decided to break us up we were driving out to another location when this MR lancer rolled up next next to me he gave it a hit. so i decided to give him a go not expecting to really stand a chance.. but little did i know that out of 2nd i had about 1 1/2 lengths on him..
rollin start out of 2nd same thing pulled him bout 2 car lenghts...
but my car is stock
Civic vti coupe....no mods just air filter
the Lancer MR had exhaust air filter and god know what else cause it sounded the peice...
to the conclusion should i be beeting these cars by this much?????

yes

You base this on one experience.....

Have you ever thought that the driver might be slow and not da car?

MR2 is aus delivered non turbo ? mayb?

....what are the specs for the N/A MR2s? what year model was this MR2 ahblahblah? im thinking the mr2 should have beaten a lancer with those "mods"? also u definitely should be wasting a lancer in ur vti......well ok not wasting..but beating.. :)

A lancer those with mods (+ extractors) can make the same/a bit more power then a stock SOHC VTEC. Gearing of the VTi can help, but i think MR's weigh in a tad more also.
Neverless, its a closer race then u may think.

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Originally Posted by Chi

You base this on one experience.....

Have you ever thought that the driver might be slow and not da car?

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um well no actually cause ive actually raced my mates lancer and i chopped it up to.. but we raced up an incline and he startes realing me back in......

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Originally Posted by ah789454

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Originally Posted by Chi

You base this on one experience.....

Have you ever thought that the driver might be slow and not da car?

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um well no actually cause ive actually raced my mates lancer and i chopped it up to.. but we raced up an incline and he startes realing me back in......

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I was refering to da mr2

the mr2 and the lancer raced 3 times and still the lancer had hom from star to finish weired....
i went a new celica sx last nite and same result again 1 1/2 car lenghts into 3rd

as long as u drive vtec, i guarantee u will chop nethin N/A, ive muched mr2's, mx5's, lancers, z3's (2.0 litre ones) ull be suprised bro...

...umm...wat sort of "VTEC"? s2k styles? lol......

A "done-up" lancer... :D
Lancer's do not go at all, exhaust or whatever. The only hope it has is if you put a turbo in it. Stocky ones with extractors/exhaust are just loud! Why do you bother with it? A vti civic will eat anything of the sort. You should even be beating pulsar sss.
And as far as the mr2 goes, a stock non-turbo isn't very fast at all. I'm talking about the old ones though. The new spyder ones are quick. Plus the mr2 driver would have been pretty crappy if he/she lost to a lancer.

yep, lancers are no match for non-vtec civics, let alone vtecd ones :D

probably the lancer guy dunno how to drive>>>>>>...............

[Lancer's do not go at all, exhaust or whatever. The only hope it has is if you put a turbo in it. Stocky ones with extractors/exhaust are just loud! Why do you bother with it?]

i thnk they might bother cos the car is something special to them. Its abit like the turbo people saying why bother with a honda... respect is where its at bro

Has anyone got figures on what a stock Honda Civic VTI Coupe can do on the quarter?

prob high 16-low 17.... 96kws , SOHC and abit beefy - depends on the driver.

Do it - and tell us mate !

Hehe.. I know it won't be accurate, but i'll give my bro's G-tech meter a go and get back to yah on a result

this thread is pretty lame....... :roll:

EDIT: i was gonna say.....its really sad to here ppl with socks talking about how fast their VTECS are........its econo-vtec damnit!

dunno about lancers only going with a turbo, there's a blue NA one that i've seen run low 14's at eastern creek :)

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Originally Posted by dc2r

A "done-up" lancer... :D
A vti civic will eat anything of the sort. You should even be beating pulsar sss.
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hey dude...
i dont think so..
a vtir civic should beat a sss, but not a vti(im guesing vti is the 96kw civics?)
ive beaten/kept up and lost to my mates civic vtir coupe,(also a member on here) sumntimes i win sumtimes him , in my old pulsar Q, 2litre sss engine, ive smashed vti's though, havn't ran him yet with the new sss, but sss's are noticably slower than a q coz of the weight....

What other cars use vtec in there engines apart from nissan and honda and toyota?

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Originally Posted by mr-n14

What other cars use vtec in there engines apart from nissan and honda and toyota?

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mate vtec is only in hondas...wtf are you smoking?

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Originally Posted by VTEC16

this thread is pretty lame....... :roll:

EDIT: i was gonna say.....its really sad to here ppl with socks talking about how fast their VTECS are........its econo-vtec damnit!

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even though the VTI is the economy version of vtec
it still makes alot of power for a 1.6L

name me another 1.6L car that makes that kind of power excluding the dohc vtec
hell, try even name me a 1.8L car that makes close to that much power; not many

so regardless whether the VTi civic is a SOHC vtec it still a quick 1.6L NA car

If you're talking about a form of VTEC like Variable Valve Timing, then I think most modern day cars will use it in their engines. Even BMW and all those European cars have their own name for this Variable Valve Timing stuff...

I know an EG VTI civic that rapes turbo cars too... single cam!! But its got a secret mod, and it ain't turbo, nos, or any of the sort... Still impressive though.

So if the Pulsar Q is quicker than a SSS, what's the point of a SSS?

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Originally Posted by joneblaze

...umm...wat sort of "VTEC"? s2k styles? lol......

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am i thinking what you are think jone:)

nvm...don't bother..i get you on this one<laffz>

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Originally Posted by dc2r

So if the Pulsar Q is quicker than a SSS, what's the point of a SSS?

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Umm..
the 91-92 Q came with optional 2litre motor (sr20de) same as in all sss models, but it came with no body kit, no power options, no spoiler, shit interior, but weight difference is approx 60-80kgs, depending on sss if its got a sunroof, which is a lot of extra weight for a N/A 4...

Q's are definatly lighter/quicker, ive driven many sss's and now i own one, and my Q was faster..

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Originally Posted by mr-n14

What other cars use vtec in there engines apart from nissan and honda and toyota?

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mate vtec is only in hondas...wtf are you smoking?

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im talking about VVTi (toyota) isn't that similar to vtec? nissan have NEO, which is called the sr20ve has varible cams or lift sum shit like that with 147kws, and im asking if anyother cars come with similar stuff to vtec? get me?

the systems in the toyotas, nissans, bm's what have you are not quite as advanced i believe......

I think BMW first came out with variable valve timing (double vanos) and honda improved on it... :D

But its still hard to beat a 3.2L inline 6 engine with Double VANOS and 6 individual electronically controlled throttle butterflies!! (BMW M3)
Would take that over the f20c engine anyday!! :)

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Originally Posted by mr-n14

What other cars use vtec in there engines apart from nissan and honda and toyota?

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mate vtec is only in hondas...wtf are you smoking?

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dude with all do respect ill make you eat your words and u neva say what u will jus said your mate mustnt be able to drive .....
and dude the vti will sit next to u with a decent driver

biss...

i used to smash SSS's with ease aswell...
my mate, he could beat sss's but with me, it was always either he just win, or me. very close. and yes it comes down to drivers. every car forum has this argument, on hear, i hear ppl keeping up with wrxs, on the wrxs forums i hear them smashing hondas, and so on...remember NO 2 motors are ever the same.

ive kept up with integras (vtir) with the old Q, but the sss is defintly slower. and i know i wont win. A friend of mine has a 97 model lancer MR, with exhaust system and POD, and for sum reason it flys, he can easily put away my amtes 94 crx. they swapped cars and still the lancer is faster, could be a freak engine im guessing, coz lancers are SLLLLOOW


EDIT - also, i beleive the Honda Civic Vtir does Quater in 16.2 secs, and the SSS is 16.49. if your saying a Vti will sit with me, whats the point of a 118kw vtir?? if there the same shit? isn't vti single cam'd?

well intersting u say thats dude i suppose its sorta cool that we have a member who has a diff oppinion thats cool dude
dude whats the diff between the q and the sss???

weight is the difference, a 2 litre Q and a sss have same motor/gearbox/breaks. but, sss has power windows,heavy spoiler,bodykits,4 foglights,sunroof,heavier seats u can definantly notice the difference....

im still a big fan of Vtec.
i was thinking of selling my car to purchase a type r 99 mod, but we will see.. u guys have to convince me. :P

What kind of convincing does it take? Honda reliability and build quality over Nissan... Ummm... track times faster... drags faster... ummm... looks way better and sexier than a Pulsar... ummm.... would you like to run? Hehe...

hell mutha f@kin yeh