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Hi guys:wave: as per title im in search of a reputable engine builder/ machine shop. Preferably with experience with big BHP Honda builds. They need to be top blokes and be in the Sydney area. Any suggestions, with examples of work carried out would be most appreciated.
Mike:thumbsup:
Almost 50 views and not one person knows a good engine builder, am I up a creek without a paddle?
Try BYP.
No personal experience, but Croydon Engineering seem fairly good.
DO NOT go to Charlie at Good Performance Centre in Yennora.
Dr Honda . has worked on my car from suspension to head rebuild .
reconditioned my head from the dodgy engine that BYP sold to me .
top bloke , genuine mechanic that knows what he's doing . if your interested , pm me. will vouch him anyway over the majority in the Honda community .
BYP is ****ed , ****ed me over .
you wanna build what engine?
big bhp d series?
pm thesaint, he's the master of d series engine
out of curiosity how was the motor that byp sold you so dodgy?Quote:
Originally Posted by joeyybruh
and why didnt you take it back to them and refund it if the motor was crap?
Be careful what you say about the saint I got banned for months cause of that **** of a thing
Jdm d series yo
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Originally Posted by mocchi
sold me a motor with leaking fuel in the throttle body , 4th piston was wet , leaking injectors , aircon lines were hitting the fan , clutch slave died and had had to pay to replace even though should have been replaced by them , charged 250 for it, lines were butchered ,wiring in the engine bay was exposed, charged me 400 for a moderate tuck where they only tucked the wires under the splash guards next to the front camber kits rubbing on them causing fire hazard , charged extra 100 bucks to set my HID kit ?? they hid the fog light wiring , mate of mine found it when we had to reroute the dodgy wire tucking.Quote:
Originally Posted by damienm
have full pictures of everything we found associated with the engine swap .
charged 500 on tune that made no power or noticeable difference , was still burning oil blowing smoke , was never given a receipt for anything I purchased until I threatened to take legal action ,
wanted to get the engine registered and instead of giving me the details of the old owner legally signed he gave me a piece of paper with details , told me to follow it up myself which should have been provided .
spoke to the old owner that purchased a K24 swap and heard his story. he had beef with them too hence why he didn't sign anything. was quoted 10 k for a k swap but ended up paying 20 k .
BYP offer no assistance with anything that happened , offer no warranty or reimbursement .
no wonder fair trading cases have been put against them .
this is my personal opinion , Yes they import with great prices but wouldn't trust them with anything , end of the day they are business and only care about money .
I have my story and many alike .
Post up pics to back it up
Care to share your story with Charlie from GPC?Quote:
Originally Posted by DakDak
Cheers
Ok thanks for the information provided against BYP, I fear that suggestions will be made based on someone having no actual experience so thanks for your honesty Joey. at the end of the day I'm going to be building a 400whp car that if not done correctly could prove fatal, I need to be able to put my trust into someone and being a mechanic myself I want the work to be carried out to the same high standard that I provide on a daily basis. The chosen mechanic/engineer must also be open to positive input from myself, and not disregard anything I have to say.
Yes mocchi the engine in question will be a d16. Is "the saint" associated with BYP by any chance?Quote:
Originally Posted by mocchi
lmao.Quote:
Originally Posted by d-series-Mike
no thesaint is a user here, not related to byp at all.
400hp d series cot daym man
how big is your budget
This guy has been swayed off BYP from one persons account which may or may not be accurate...
Plenty of people vouch for byp,they even have a thread about it
Dude you need to research long and hard since youre going to be putting a big chunk of coin into the project,look at workshops history and accomplishments and go and talk to them in person to get a feel
Joeybrah please dont twist my words, I was offered a basic package for 10k, I wanted more, so I paid more, though no 20k lol.
I agree with mocchi, pm the saint
I have all parts to complete the build,with masses of help from the Honda-tech die hards over in the US, total cost so far is a few bucks under 2k excluding turbo,exhaust and machine shop work, obviously tuning on top. I can do everything myself besides the sleeves and engine machining, but I dont have space or time. A separate thread will be made soon but I hate sharing as it usually leads to whining bitches who don't know a thing about how an engine works adding there 2 cents which usually doesn't have anything to with anything!! Total spend, oosht, looking to be in the region of 6k which will also include suspension, brakes and tyres.
sounds hard ay 400hp sohc d series
dont think it can happen
It's not, it's actually quite easy. I've been extremely lucky with parts over the past few months, bagged some absolute bargains, I guess when you lock yourself in a room and don't take your eyes off dseries.org and hondatech.com for weeks on end you learn how to save yourself a heap of cash. I will consider BYP, I will go for a visit and make my own decision from there.Quote:
Originally Posted by mocchi
No problems. Here is a PM I wrote awhile ago. It was calledQuote:
Originally Posted by Tosies
"Charlie the Serpent"
Hey bro,
Here's my recount of experiences with Charlie.
Many moons ago when I was noob, I blew my K20a2 and came to him for a K24A3.
He said my K20 was completely ****ed and there was nothing that can be salvaged and I was dumb enough to trust him.
My K20A2 head, which Im sure you know is worth A LOT and hard to come by was fine. He only ever showed me the block with holes in it.
So yea jipped me out of about my first $800
2, when he did my engine conversion he didnt do it properly. He just rattle gunned all the bolts like a lazy ****. NOTHING was torqued to spec. It was all over torqued.
3, I asked him if I would need a KPRO and engine mounts. He said no. I argued but he gave me the im a mechanic bs. I gave him
Next thing you know im throwing up CEL lights and my engine is clunking because the stock mounts are shit.
I bet he told me a lie to get me to come back so he could get me with labour.
4. Tried to sabotage my gb by removing the input shaft bearing. DELIBERATE attempt to get me to blow my gb and come back.
Thats all I can think of for now.
This is why I hate Charlie the bush pig at Good Performance Centre. And his bro Vinny. Never liked the look of that ****.
Daz
* Also told me I wouldnt need an ecu for hte conversion, I knew I did an argued. But he convinced me it wasnt required.
Started up my car
NEK MINIT
Check engine light.
Thanks for sharing DakDak, much appreciated.
toda au paint my brake caliper red,not bad job only few drip
Dyno Dave
Lmao loving this thread
Charlie is old mate
He is alright lol
I'm assuming this is a legitimate engine tuner around the Sydney area , and not some idiot that dresses up as a dinosaur on a Saturday night in the cross?Quote:
Originally Posted by ceekay101
has any of these engine builders built a 1000hp+ B-Series?
I'm sure I read BYP built a 9 sec quarter miler, but haven't investigated much further, I'm assuming that would of been set using a b18c
LmfaoQuote:
Originally Posted by YeahByuddy
Cb auto in cabra has made a 900hp b16a. Pm charliebrown for details on the build.Quote:
Originally Posted by MSTCHF
Cb auto have also made a 850hp d15b in a cerato. Pretty impressive!
he was good back in the days but his gonskies and untrustworthy now he still owes my mate couple of thousands for his engine build but he never got it done and he ran off with the money.Quote:
Originally Posted by ceekay101
Bels Garage? ARA Engineering Yennora)? v&e rigoli?
Online Performance.
Quickest N/A and boosted Honda. What more do you want? lol
This sounds promising, I will drop Charliebrown a pmQuote:
Originally Posted by PHO
Yeah Online and Rigoli been around for long time with proven results..
Any contact info?Quote:
Originally Posted by EKVTIR-T
http://www.google.com.au/Quote:
Originally Posted by d-series-Mike
Clever. ThanksQuote:
Originally Posted by EKVTIR-T
Online Performance 100%, Been around for ever and have the results to prove it.. 02 98266602..
Awesome I'll give them a call for a chat tomorrow. CheersQuote:
Originally Posted by TAKEN
my piece of advice is to always go to a proper reputable workshop where both of you sign a contract, they issue receipts and provide warranty on parts and workmanship.. backyard jobs are bound to eff u up. depends on your luck really.
call around for quotes.. these workshops are good:
Pro Concept
Top One
IS Motor Racing
MRT Performance
Thanks for your input mate, I want a workshop that has a fair amount of experience boosting Hondas, preferably d series, I know they are not all that common in Australia yet as opposed to the UK and the U.S, but I'm sure some workshops have done some d banger builds in SydneyQuote:
Originally Posted by outatime
^ just call those workshops I mentioned and talk to the owners.. they are all top and genuine blokes!
TODA AU is no more
Toda is no more
I think Bel garage is no more
and MRT do Subaru's lol
i havent heard much Honda talk with the others so i cant comment.
MRT ha ha.
mrt had a rally winning ek civic...
you mean they closed down? wow i'm behind the times as I havent been active in the car scene the past 2 years! post updated!Quote:
Originally Posted by TAKEN
Quote:
Originally Posted by EKVTIR-T
yeah and proconcept too.. they have a track winning ek4 with fd2r k20.
MRT ha haQuote:
Originally Posted by EKVTIR-T
Explain.Quote:
Originally Posted by tripleuse
V & E Rigoli Performance Racing 9/442-446 Victoria Street, Wetherill Park NSWQuote:
Originally Posted by d-series-Mike
Online performance Unit 4/25-27 WhyallaPlace Hoxton Park Sydney, NSW Australia. 2171
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http://www.hicomp.com.au/
Thanks for that mate, I did a google search for online performance, needless to say its quite a common URL.Quote:
Originally Posted by blabla
MRT long ago were good, not in recent times hence why everyone including smart LanEvo/Rexy owners would laugh at you...
Bel Garage is gone, they've merged with someone? They weren't that great...
To the OP, honestly mate, read around and see for yourself, many people recommending these guys are from positive experience or they're promoting for the shop. Most of these shops have had their fair horror stories to if you know where to look. As outatime suggested, a reputatable shop will be upfront and have a binding thing written down for both parties is safest. Even then some shops will wiggle through a loophole if you're not careful.
Good Luck ;)
http://araenginereconditioning.com.au/
give these guys a buzz they love their hondas
smart man.Quote:
Originally Posted by DreadAngel
Thanks for the advice mate, the search continues....Quote:
Originally Posted by DreadAngel
Got my head reconditioned there great work!!!! They provide warranty on there work I got 6 months with the head.Quote:
Originally Posted by damienm
I got my machine work done there too good job
Posted in wrong thread like an idiot...
What did you get done and how much did it cost?Quote:
Originally Posted by SLOBRO
JEM just built mine and my brothers honda motor great service and time turnaround top job top price and been unreal i recomend them if your looking either way and engine is an engine and its only as good as the parts and builder...... google pj s s13 600+ kw from a sr20 thats who built my bros motor they know what thry are doing and offer warrenty if u want just google JEM and take to dean and make your own mind up your spending big coin get some prices and see who u like i peraobally can say toda au , is motor racing, envy dyno and castle hill performance or what ever have all be shit to deal with would take nothing to them pm me if u want more info