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Hey guys just recently checked out the dc2r ive posted below.
Got a stateroads inspection on it and the car is basically a mess.
Been involved in a massive accident, although not listed below.
If anyone is interested in the car i can send you the report.
http://www.carsales.com.au/private/d...o=Stock&items=[Make:HONDA,Model:INTEGRA,BaseEnabledBadge:TYPE%20R]&sort=LastUpdate
dafaq? who puts down a deposit before the cars been driven, then dont even get to drive it lmzoQuote:
The only person test driving the car will be me after a deposit has been paid.
I know right.
So dodgy.
Prob doesnt want you to feel the steering wheel vibrating and pulling to the left
yeah, and if you put a deposit down and don't like the way it drives... bye bye $1000
You should post in his FS thread to warn others ?Quote:
Originally Posted by vtec_yoo
can you send me the report please.
thank you bye bye come again
I need your email..? lol
I wouldnt do that. But when selling a sport car. I tell the person i want to see the cash before you test drive it. Hate people being test pilots.Quote:
Originally Posted by charliebrown
whats the point in doing that? some people go and look at a car visually and test drive before they organise to have mechanical inspections etc. only after those are cleared do they pay a deposit. people dont walk around with thousands in cash when they're not ready to place deposit on the day even if they are genuine buyersQuote:
Originally Posted by JDM DC2R
and its a 15 year old honda, not a lambo
Ithink for the sake of ozh, the report should be put up anyway!
Lol @ " car is NOT on revs..."
The backyard repairer must of failed to inform the relevant insurance companies and state transit authority ?!
Btw when I sell a car , I don't let the person drive it , I take it for a thrash with them in the passenger seat. If they like it , they take e next step and put a deposit down then get to test
Have to agree here CBQuote:
Originally Posted by charliebrown
I really dislike this idea of 'must put deposit for test drive'.
Testdriving is part of the decisionmaking process for purchase,you could be looking at 15 cars before buying,are you going to drop a deposit on them all for driving evaluation..its ridiculous imo
You may ask for the persons license to hold while they go for a drive if you dont trust them but you would be going with them anyway if you have any sense
have to agree with ekvtir-t
have to agree with na-118
That's it, when I'm taking them for a drive, I'm also never shy to push it, nothing to hide about to the car.Quote:
Originally Posted by bennjamin
guys he wanted a $1000 deposit wouldnt take less than 13K wouldnt let me test drive it radiator was leaking body repairs were dodgy but wasnt on revs wouldnt meet me at his house wanted to show car at bunnings like wtf? i ended up buying the one with more klms not on revs been repaired properly and was 11k
on a side note - i don't think it's unfair to ask not to meet at your house. i sold 3 cars, and not once did i agree to meet at my house. fact is, when i transfer it you will have my address, full name and you already have a mobile number. so until you buy it, sorry but you don't get to see where it sleeps. i think that's fair. (for the record, all 3 were picked up from my house when the buyer came back with money after price was agreed.)
Agreed, when I went to sell my car, I had some dodgy people asking when would I be free, we'd arrange a few inspections but they'd come up with some sort of excuse, and try to ask when I would be free again. Almost like they simply wanna know where the car sleeps and do something dodgy while I'm at work or something.Quote:
Originally Posted by pure_na
if this was the case, wouldnt you drive like a bitch so they think you've never given it the beans and car is in mint condition mechanical-wise? :pQuote:
Originally Posted by khanguskhan
Probably meant to, but then I wouldn't be able to sleep at night LOL. DC2R anyone that believes in the never hit vtec bullcrap can go eat a d*ck.Quote:
Originally Posted by charliebrown
Hang on, but 'religiously' servicing it after every hit of V-Tech makes up for it right? :cool:
i dunno... when i was checkin cars out and the owner would mention the word "performance", i'd get iffy thinkin he'd been hittin too much vtec down prinny
So you'd rather an owner that lies to you that he hits vtec once a year max? lol TBH, its really hard to tell just give the vehicle a full inspection is the best I guess.
I know what CB is saying. When someone says something like "amazing performance, a true sports car", I worry about just how much performance he's been squeezing out of it, especially when I see that it's had a "brand new Exedy heavy duty clutch" installed.
Yea I know what he's saying as well, I'm just saying that as a seller, if they choose to they can avoid saying such things. I'd like to believe that I'm more genuine in my approaches, but yea I'm very surprised at brand new clutches at 120k km. My dc2r just hit 130k km, clutch still bites perfect. I got a spare clutch ready to go in, but I don't think I need it for at least another 40k+ km. Probably cause I drive like a bitch though don't know how to squeeze my car LOL
had exactly the same thing happen to me the first car i sold, learnt my lesson quickly. then i was selling a car once for a VERY good price, needed it gone quick as it was a temp car and i was ready to buy the car i'd been saving for. had one guy ring me up and say he wants to see it. i said meet me at x. he said no i want to see it at your house. i said i'm not selling the house, meet me at x to see the car. he arked up, i lost my sh*t and hung up. rang me 3 days later, felt so good to be able to say 'sorry f@g, car sold.' true story. in other news, i cbf studyiiiiiiiiing :(.Quote:
Originally Posted by khanguskhan
Yea, all sorts of messed up people in the world, people that are willing to steal your shit, ruin your life, savings to buy car components. Hate that shit, ahhahaah no one wants to study!!
ooh gives me stuff to think about... ive sold two cars, both times let them come see it at my house. both were L platers keen on their first car and no dodgy shit!
charliebrown, i'm not saying that if you let people see your cars at your house they will pull sh*t. but simply put, there is no reason to let them see it at your house, as once they decide to buy it they will have all your details anyway and if they like you can hand over the keys at your house.
That's *if* they have the intention of buying it. If they're only out to pull some dodgy shit on you it won't matter if your address and details are down on paper, since they're not even gonna buy it in the first place the papers wouldn't even exist.Quote:
Originally Posted by pure_na
Well, I made some comments in the sale thread, and he said the following:
"There are no welds, chassis is straight, seals are untouched and radiator support is untouched ..
A passenger door repair is hardly a massive accident.
The report inspection says "exhaust too big and clutch worn"
The car has a stock exhaust system and the clutch was replaced 2 years ago, less than 15000mm old, does not slip at all - go figure
I never asked for a 1k deposit. Buyers inspect the car and we take it from there. I offer all prospective buyers a ride in the passenger seat.
Radiator leaking?
Great trolling and speculations
Ahh wells .. Believe what u wanna believe"
...before closing the thread, claiming "haters gonna hate". I think you definitely busted some dodgy shit, so nice work guys!
the seller wanted a 1k deposit minimum and the radiator had all dried up coolant where its joined on top ,scratches everywhere body filler cracking on thee door corners 1 guard was painted shit no orange peel whatso ever
the seller wanted a 1k deposit minimum and the radiator had all dried up coolant where its joined on top ,scratches everywhere body filler cracking on thee door corners 1 guard was painted shit no orange peel whatso ever
Feels good to know atleast someone on this forum isn't going to buy it!!
If only we could post it up on car sales ={
Just curious, did you buy that DC2R recently? I swear your DP looks exactly like a type r I was going to look at LOL XDQuote:
Originally Posted by Denis
So thankful that I stumbled across this thread. I just gave the guy a call yesterday (he didnt agree to my price though) and was willing to go from Adelaide to Sydney to check the car. Thanks guys, greatly appreciated.
If u look at it this way. A regularly vtecd engine is no less healthy than one that's never seen the other side of 4000rpm if both are maintained properly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Indie
However one that's been launched at 5k rpm at every 2nd traffic light is a worry
yeah i bought this one instead of the one thats dodgy it was in glenwood mature owner got it for a good priceQuote:
Originally Posted by avetec
ahhhhhhh man im so jealous! I just got the a-o-k to go look interstate and noticed that type r had gone D; How's it holding up? Hope its worth the money if i can find one ><Quote:
Originally Posted by Denis
uhmm picked it up for 11k listed for 13.5k got my dad to haggle him down lol 1 month rego and had 155xxxklms which is reasonable for age needed sump gasket replaced piss easy and 3 x drive belts full service brake fluid etc has a few dents but drives good just got tints redone alarm fixed came with a mugen intake and muffler
wow niceeeeeeeeee! Hopefully I can get one for a good price, haven't had much luck these past few months.. =__="
what colour you looking to buy? maximum klms on it? stock?
Night Hawk Black, Or Milano Red (preferably the black one xD) Km's, no more than 150 to 160ish, depending on the maintenance and condition of the engine. In saying that, I don't want a low km car with horrible maintenance history.. Stock is preferable (cause gotta get through Regency back in Adelaide..) but minor mods like CAI for example is all good. Budget, depends on car nothing ridiculous of course lol That enough info? haha
blacks niceee but gets very dirty/dust shows more dents but doesnt red fade? i agree 150 ish max and if its well maintained then thats alright id rather one thats got more klms serviced then one with 80k old lady owner with sludge in the engine from driving to and from the shops 10mins each way lol
Agreed, but i dont mind cleaning it all off once its dirty (Y) Not quite sure, just thought the red look pretty nice.
Yup, definitely agree with you on that point
I'll make one reply due to all the keyboard warriors and immature bs that's been thrown around
OP - you state it has been in a "major accident" which was not listed in my ad? You say these 2 words because you informed me that the inspector told you over the phone it was in a "major accident", the same inspector which told you that my exhaust was too big (even though its stock) and that my clutch was worn (even though it was replaced 2 years ago and does not slip).
Mate, an inspector who states just the above 2, is enough for anyone to question his credibility as an assessor.
Further, you said he based his assessment of "major accident" on the fact that the left side had been resprayed, again, this raises concerns about his credibility - just because a part is resprayed, it does not mean it has been in a "major accident"
Does the report say there has been any part of the chassis which has been repaired / welded? That the radiator support had been replaced? These factors would constitute a "major accident"
If the assessor told you there is, I'd still question it since he thinks a stock exhaust is "too big" and a fairly new clutch is "worn"
You seem to try to discredit me in my ad description, yet if you read my ad carefully, I state the truth, that indeed the car is straight, chassis is untouched and unwelded from any accident repairs which constitute a major accident.
Further, why don't you tell everyone if I was honest with you? Prior to your inspection, did I not inform you that the front end had been resprayed due to stone chips and that the left door had been repaired and resprayed due to a carpark reversal incident? I can screen shot it and post it up if you like ... I did not hide anything from you at all, I was upfront and honest with you from the start, further, I did not even take your deposit when you offered it to me (you know how much it was, and it was a substantial amount). I was fine with you having the inspection done and then finalizing a deal afterwards - does this sound like something a "dodgy" person trying to sell a "dodgy" car would do?
In regards to test drives in this thread - as most people have stated, if they were selling their car, they take the prospective buyer on a test drive. And in most circumstances, including myself, we push the car to show how it is.
In my case, I let people inspect the car, if they are happy with the bodywork and interior, I will then take them for a spirited drive. Once that is complete, pending how serious they are, if they leave a deposit for the car, I tell them upfront, take the car for a drive, if you are unhappy with it, you can take back your deposit and that's that (provided you don't stuff the car up). The deposit is more or less a gauge for myself to see how serious someone is, and also in the event that something goes wrong during a test drive, then you cover yourself somewhat. If you think it's unreasonable or a joke, that's your opinion. But just think about the scenario where someone test drives your car and accidentally gutters your rims, or scratches your car, or damages it somehow somewhere, is it so unrealistic to have asked for a deposit prior?
In regards to the clutch having to be changed - it was changed because the 2 first owners of the car were both women. How well they drive manual is questionable, but my guess is since the clutch had to be changed at around 110,000km, they weren't soo great at driving manual.
Denis - show the forum where I stated to you that I wanted a 1k deposit? You definitely wont find it in our txts. I never said it person, nor did my brother. So it'll be a case of he said she said.
Your comment of me not accepting less than 13k is to prove what exactly? That I want a certain amount for my car? Didn't realise that people selling their car were not entitled to a figure they want?
Your comment regarding test drive - please refer above. But further, why don't you tell everyone if I took you for a test drive? If I tested the car to its limits to demonstrate to you how mechanically solid it is? How good the clutch is? How smooth the gearbox is?
You state the radiator was leaking, even though I explained it was overflow from over filling up - further, the inspection organised by the OP did not state anything about leaking radiator ..
Your comment on not meeting at my house has been explained by others in this thread
It's nice to see how your comments are all negative, but why not shed light to everyone on any positives? Was I not honest with you from the start? I told you before you even came to inspect the car over the phone the condition of the body, which included the scuff marks and scratches .. yet you comment on here making it sound like I didn't prepare you for it? Like I hid the fact that the body had marks or like I implied the body was in great condition.. far from the truth and you and I both know it.
Further, besides your observation of coolant overflow on the radiator (which has now been cleaned) and there are no signs of "leaking" coolant, why not comment on how the car was mechanically? Were there any gearbox or oil leaks? Was anything cleaned to show signs of hiding a leak? Did the gearbox crunch? Was the clutch slipping when I shifted into 4th up the top of the rev range? Hows the condition of the interior?
Clearly you knew the mechanics of the car were great (you even told me), you said the interior was good for its age, you witnessed the full log book service history, I took you for a good test drive, you knew of the "dodgy" repairs, I showed you the body condition, and that is why you made me an offer of 12.5k wasn't it? If you'd like, I can screen shot our txts to show the forum that you had initially offered 12.5k, but then thought it was abit much.
Why would you offer 12.5k if the car is portrayed by you in this post as not soo great?
Congratulations on finding another one for 11k, I'm truely happy for you. But that doesn't take away the fact that you have unfairly judged and portrayed my car to everyone in this post.
avetec - again, nice portrayal of our encounter. You stated to me you were going to come up to sydney in the next few weeks for other type r's, and that you wanted to look at mine to keep your options open. That is completely understandable, but in your post, you failed to mention this .. you make it sound out like you were going to make a trip from SA to Sydney just for my car.
Further, you initially told me over the phone an offer of 9k. In most circumstances, as people on this forum would understand or know, a dc2r owner would tell you to fcuk off or be rude to you.
Why not tell everyone how I handled your phone call? Was I rude at all? Mate, I spent a good several minutes having a chat with you about type r's, and what you can expect to pay for them. Was I not nice and courteous to you?
What people are failing to understand or see is, its not all negative as everyone has portrayed my car or myself out to be. Anyone who calls or inquires about the car, I am honest, upfront and courteous with them from the get go. I tell them how the car is. I explain what previous repairs have been done to the car. This is in regards to the body. I don't lie about anything and I am as genuine as a seller gets.
Interior wise and mechanically, it'll speak for itself when witnessed in person.
Most people on here are soo quick to judge, defame and slander without even understanding the whole story. Pretty disappointing, but such is life. Hence, I have removed the sale thread not because the car is "dodgy", but because of dealing with people as witnessed in this thread who offer unwarranted and judgmental slander.
the other side of the coin
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Theres always two sides ay
Always.
Only read first half but.
I apologize if my posts have offended you, but in no way was i saying that your words were inappropriate. I'm new to the car buying scene, so it would be natural of me to be super cautious with buying a car, especially if I'm going interstate and i did give an honest justification for that price. I believe you misunderstood that post, or may have worded it wrong, was just stating that i was going up there
Like I said, I did not in any way have a go at you for the way you handled the call, so yes, YOU were courteous and handled the conversation well, but as I said, anything on the car would make me even more cautious. Hope you understand.
how can i show everyone that you wanted a 1k deposit when it was over the phone the car mechanically was excellent i agree with you on that i just wasnt happy with the repairs on it and the radiator had dried up coolant all the top of it and could posibly leak again so i didnt think it was worth 13k and you were sending me txt saying good luck finding a type r like mine for under 13000 being a smartass n that and i agree not seeing the car at your house is a safe way of doing itQuote:
Originally Posted by jn86
So now you're swallowing back your words OP, uncool man
What you on about?Quote:
Originally Posted by khanguskhan
OP hasnt responded to jn86 post yet..
like EKVTIR-T said. wtf are you talking about...Quote:
Originally Posted by khanguskhan
And in response to jn86,
I agree on the fact mechanically i thought the car seemed fine, Having said that i have no idea on the mechanical side of a car...
I will agree to a certain point on your comment about informing me about the cars accidental history. As you had only told me that after i had arranged the inspection and stateroads had contacted you to let you know the inspection would be running late. After that call you let me know, but what am i to do when the company have a minimum 2 hour notice cancelation policy.
I would have no problem with a panel being resprayed, but it had been resprayed poorly and the paint was noted very thick...
Regarding the deposit when i initially contacted you, you were asking for a 1.3k deposit as the price you then wanted was 13.3k and the follow up sum of 12k.
I'd like to note that i never said you were dodgy either, I wanted to inform people that i had an inspection completed and thats what came back.
As you stated in your message "the chick before you had it done" in regards to the door being replaced and sprayed, so your saying you bought the car like that and withheld the information until you knew i was serious about getting a professional inspection done.
Ive got a mate who might be keen on selling his milano red dc2r, stock, full log book history and i think about 135,000 kms on the clockQuote:
Originally Posted by avetec
Just sent you a pm. Cheers
My apologies, not following the posts correctly.Quote:
Originally Posted by EKVTIR-T
pm sentQuote:
Originally Posted by khanguskhan
as most people see that deposit is a non-refundable thing
asking for "deposit" for a test drive will be ridiculed, labeled arrogant and dodgy, then things goes apeshit from here.
it should be "refundable bond", just in case something goes wrong.
So because there was coolant overflow and a door looks funny because of a cheap repair its bad?
Was a PPSR done?
I dont trust inspectors. I paid one to look over a EV0 7 once. $280 wasted, didnt even get my ppsr after that.
Pretty much did what any mechanically minded person would do. DIDNT EVEN do a compression check.
wasnt coolant overflow it was leaking where the top(plastic) joins to the metalQuote:
Originally Posted by DakDak
needed servicing said it was serviced and the drive belts were all cracked he calls that servicing??
and the (body filler) was cracking on the door and paint peeling off on the bumper.hence why i didnt buy it
Awareness raised, seller had closed hrs For Sale thread
Closed, please pm me if wish for this to be reopened