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Hi i am about to drop stage one cams into my b18c7 with power fc. So far the best I have heard of is Skunk2(Pro 1) and Toda (A2). However Blox is cheap, and i heard they are pretty much copies from skunk2, but is the quality the same? Also! Edelbrock!! are they any good? because they are very cheap? Can anyone please advise me and tell me how big of a difference is there between these 3 brands?
greatly appreciated!!!
What are you using the car for? Track or daily? How much r u looking at spending
If u using as daily I would go either skunk2 pro 2 or 3, depends if u r willing to get ur head modified to fit the stage3 as I'm pretty sure u have to modify ur head
mostly daily sometimes hill runs and occasionally track days. not planning to put aftermarket valve and springs except if anyone here knows edelbrock because it has a really cheap deal. my budget is around 500-600$
That budget will be cutting it very fine. Are u installing and tuning? U should be able to buy just the cams for that price
I would just go all out with the head, heavy port polish, stem seals, etc so u not going back and forward. That's what I would do if I was in ur position
U would also need more parts such as adjustable cam gears etc to get the most out of it
i see, but have you heard of edelbrock?
Yea I heard of them. Its a yank company I think. I mostly see their stuff on V8's
You are going to need a lot more than $600. That will just cover the tune.
If you just want the camshafts I'd say about $500 just for tune, $1000 for brand new cams + install
AND
Its better to do the valve train as well if your the type of guy that will always want more power.
You'll save on parts that you should have went with instead, labour as your doing it all in one go and retuning, as its expensive and you dont want to do it after every single mod. PLan ahead.
yea i mean $600 is excluding the tune. $600 is just for thr camshafts. for skunk 2 a stage 2 cams with valves costs about $1300 AUD where edelbrock stage 2 camshafts with valve springs costs only $around 700 therefore i need opinions on edelbrock
Skunk2 aint that great i remember there was a cataclysmic fight over the net with dodgey skunk2 parts, angry customers, skunk2 in damage control puttibg up bounties . I even think anonymous got involved.
Ask your tuner.
Edelbrock been doing jap cars for a long time now but its not really big in Aus.
To get actual real feedback about their cams you need to snoop the american forums like hondatech
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so i would say edelbrock will not be a bad choice? I have seen forum discussing about skunk2 and edelbrock's intake manifolds and other products. they stated that skunk2 does not always have best fitments and edelbrock usually has no complaints. can i take these opinions into my decision lol?
cheers
I think if you're going to 'upgrade' your Motor/vehicle in some way, you should be using parts that meet or exceed OEM quality.
Skunk2 and Blox are not worthy of consideration, i wouldn't put a skunk2 part on my Accord even if it were free.
You're asking for advice between Skunk2, Toda, and Blox.
It's comparing crap, awesome, and cheap-knockoff of crap.
I know some of us can't just throw huge amounts of money at our cars, but you have to be realistic about it.
If you cannot buy a 'suitable' product (And by that i mean a quality product), either save up.. Or don't buy anything at all.
Ontopic: Toda.
im running blox b on my dc2. i was happy with them for a while but then as you continue driving etc you get a bit over them if you know what i mean and as far as my research goes on them theyre only slightly bigger than type r cams. dont bother with them imo as i am now upgrading to toda c2s because they suit my hi comp build much better. in saying that my mate has made 154kw on an 11:1 comp b20 with blox b cams. 600$ wont get you much in regards to parts etc. there is little to no point in doing cams if your not gonna go the full hog and port and polish the chambers, change springs over, retainers, throttle bodies and manifolds. PM if you need any help with anything :)
Well said cheers! Ok I pretty much gave up on skunk2 and blox now. I've looked at some more choices, how are GSC, EDELBROCK and BRIAN CROWER?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jccck
Yea I understand what you are talking about mate. However this is my daily drive so I might prefer it to be not 'too' aggressive but to be quicker and more responsive than the oem itr cams :) have you heard about GSC, heard they are not bad?Quote:
Originally Posted by joe.teg
Toda all the way. 4yrs of racing with a fully built Toda Engine. Just put the 3rd set of plugs in it. Thats over 150 track days. You do get what you pay for.
I want him no homoQuote:
Originally Posted by timofytit
same ^^
It might be best to check around the gains and experiences people have had with various combinations you're looking at to see if mild cams will meet your expectations then, otherwise after you do all the hard work you find that the mild cams aren't able to meet your expectations, you'll be blowing yet more money on parts, labour and tuning. Its hard with small capacity NA because you don't have the bigger cubes to help with low-mid range torque nor help with idle [to a degree] which most of us need with our daily.Quote:
Originally Posted by z5367489