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hey guys,
thinking of buying a set of wheels 15x9 +10
what would i have to do to fit it on a dc2 running skunk 2 shocks and spoon progressive springs.
tire size (good/safe amount of stretch), spacers, camber, guard rolling and if necessary pull out the guards abit..
just want to know exactly how to fit these wheels.
thanks in advance. tom
You'll need to stretch the tyres, maybe 195/45 or 165/45(quite a bit of stretch but this will defiantly clear your guard)
Springs ain't good for wide wheels and lowering unless its very stiff, cos when you bounce, it will smack your guards.
You'll deifnately need camber arms, rolled guards
Depends how low you're going to drop
oh okay, not too low as the cars a daily and don't want to have a hard time driving it lol
so just stretch camber and rolled guards? no spacers required?
will the width of the wheel affect anything else like not clearing etc
Then you'll need camber arms and dial in some neg camberQuote:
Originally Posted by tom_son
You won't need spacers, do you know what they are? They push your wheels out more, meaning you'll have more troubles clearing the guards
Ya.
If your wheels were 8 wide, it means the wheel is an inch smaller, hence easier to fit under the guards
But if you have wider wheels and higher offset then you could also fit them under
Width is measured by inch
Offset my mm,
Go to the integra threads, research others fiitments, and pictures and you can measure it.
Or find out the specs of your stock wheels, and measure it from there (estimate)
Work it out
Hope it makes sense ay
Regards,
Luke
oh okay,
just a stab in the dark with these wheels, thanks for the help
anyone else that can enlighten me with this stuff is more then welcome lol
kind regards, tom
im assuming these are the ccw reps ?
yep those onesQuote:
Originally Posted by viinnh
thanks Luke.Quote:
Originally Posted by simmy
15x8 +10 can be done with 175/50 or 185/50 for flush look
drop it to flush it should have natural camber of atleast -2.5...so if you do your research
it can fit with rolled and pulled guards.
invest in a camber kit.. you either go low with those specs or itll look mexican and silly.
thanks evok, just the info i was afterQuote:
Originally Posted by Evok
good info hear buddyQuote:
Originally Posted by Evok
but yeah, he didnt want to go super low
you need to go pretty low for it to naturally camber in to fit, and hes running on springs
This is a good thread... Having had cars with ridiculous amounts of negative camber, there's a lot of other issues, tire wear, etc... If you end up with too much negative camber you'll end up with a tire that doesn't touch the road surface and mass amounts of uneven tire wear. You run into other issues with the car being front wheel drive.... I love boso cars and my Z10 Soarer... However, a DC2 Integra is really not the best candidate for a massive amount of camber.
In all honesty I could also see other problems with going any wider than an 8 on a front wheel drive car. If you want that kind of look buy yourself a Silvia, or something old school like a Laurel or a Cressi and get a set of 7s or 8s at the most for the Integra.
The notion that you'll look like a silly Mexican in a riced Honda is strong on this one. That kind of look only really suits rear wheel driven sedans and maybe occasionally something like an old school like a 240/260z... cars like my Toyota's. You're really kidding yourself if you think you can get a 9 or 10 under the guards of an Integra without mutilating it. I struggled to get a 10 under the rear guards of a rear wheel drive coupe as you can see in the first pic.
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No, no, no.Quote:
Originally Posted by simmy
Did you just tell someone to fit a 6.5" tyre on a 9" wheel?
yeah my bad, I meant 195 even 185. I was thinking of 8 wide
lol... :thumbdwn:Quote:
Originally Posted by newpaddy3
Your attempt at correcting grammar is amusing.Quote:
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Originally Posted by newpaddy3
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Originally Posted by Integra-GSi
First, how do you fit multiple tires on a single wheel?
Second, my statement was grammatically correct, don't pretend to be superior by calling people out.
http://i478.photobucket.com/albums/r...boy_reacts.gifQuote:
Originally Posted by newpaddy3
LOL fail trollQuote:
Originally Posted by Integra-GSi
Paddys grammar was correct the first time m8y
L2grammar, and l2wheelfit
I was agreeing with you.... Anyway, I've stretched tyres onto wheels before, SEE: pics on the previous page. I've never run anything that extreme though, I was laughing at the silly idea of a 165. Let me show you fitment of 9s and 10s.Quote:
Originally Posted by newpaddy3
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Lets not jump to conclusions shall we. Sorry If I caused any offense... It was completely unintentional. Anyway, if you go that extreme on a front wheel drive car you're going to have handling issues, tram lining and all kinds of other issues. Besides the point, if you go that extreme you're going to end up with camber issues where you're going to be riding on half of your tyre, even if you get a camber adjustment kit its going to stuff up your suspension geometry.
^165 is safe
lol mountable doesn't mean safe.
165 is designed for 4-6".
I've run some ridiculous stretch in my times. I'm still into bosozoku cars, but having a car like that is for show and not for the road I've learned the hard way by having a car defected for being too low and not having wheels that fit under the guards, hence the Integra now. The post above is correct 165 over a 9 is not safe by any means, you're kidding yourself if you think it is. Those photos are 205 over 9s on the front with some stretch but being fairly safe. I'd struggle to see a 165 actually bead on.Quote:
Originally Posted by newpaddy3
In all honesty, this comment deserves to be negged.Quote:
Originally Posted by viinnh
I'll refrain from that though.
Please think about what you recommend to other people where their road safety, and life is involved.
Unfortunatley you cant use road safety and stance in the same sentance.
For a street car, there is no need for a x9 wheel (unless you are running 300hp+)
The magic offset for early civic and integras is in the +20 ---> +25 range. Talk to user namtaro about the 15x9's he had on his EG as that would be the flushest Honda I have seen in a long time
If you're running a wide rim at +25 you're going to have to be running a fair amount of camber... I wouldn't run more than about a 6" wheel at +25 on a Teg if you wanted to be getting the wheels under the guards without massaging them and running camber. I've just been doing that as a thought exercise actually because I was thinking about doing exactly that. I'd be erring more towards +30(ish) if you wanted to run a wider rim than a 7 and then a bit more for an 8. Maybe that's just wisdom of running cars with aggressive offset and camber where shoulder wear was telling me about half of the tire was on the ground at any one time, but there's a lot of issues going on here and most of all you already have suspension issues with a Teg on stock suspension, you don't really want to make the car any more harsh than what it is.
My association with front wheel drive cars is with both soft and compliant suspension in Peugeots and whatever, so, well, my experiences may vary, but if you're doing it for street rather than track, it's already easy enough to completely upset your suspension on an Integra and get crossed up, so I wouldn't even really go there. It's also the fact that as a generality Australian roads are shit...
Nam ran his car maxxed out on the coils with standard camber arms (guards pulled as far as they would go from memory).
I run 16x8 +25 with a Advan a050 225/45R16 on my eg with around -2.5 degree of camber and i have no issues.
Yeah... as you say, you're getting to the point where you need to start doing some adjustments in order to make things fit.
It seems as tho OP is wanting to simply bolt on and off he goes with these wheels, thus why I said that between +20 & +25 is the magic offset, along with not so wide wheels. I am only giving examples of where people have done it right without modifying too much and have stayed in the range people think wont work
i've rolled the front two guards and cut the rear two to make these wheels fit, i have a set of coilovers and camber kit on the way, a few other issues that came up is that when i put on the wheels to see if they fit, i notice the hubs dont line up, would i need to run hub relocators or fillers to make it fit properly?
another thing is, when the coilovers and camberkit comes in, would i have to install them then drive on stock wheels for about a week to let the coilovers settle and then put on the new wheels, adjust height/damper and dial negative camber in? or can i install the coilovers and just adjust the height straight away?
thanks in advance, Tom
and in regards to the tyres, i've put 195/45 on them, will not be illegally street racing or doing burnouts at Krispykreme or anything, just a sensible/notsosensible daily. all risk involved will be taking into consideration, thanks for your concern, once it is back on the road and sitting how i want it to, will post a picture to clear up all assumptions. ty
You should be running a hub ring so as your wheels remain hub centric as opposed to stud centric, that's why you've got a hole there in the first place... I.E. it's not just there for aesthetics, if there's a gap there, say 67 to 72mm for instance you need a hub ring that's going to fill it with a 67mm inside diametre 72mm outside diametre ring.Quote:
Originally Posted by tom_son
Although It's really not all that likely but if all your balancing the wheels of your car on is the studs then you can in the long run end up sheering a stud off your hub... Not a good thing, that shouldn't happen, but it's a possibility. Hub centric rings don't cost anything either so it's worth the investment for safety.
On the issue of adjusting your coil overs, in all of my setups I've just dialled in the height and the camber adjustment and driven away, I don't see any problem really in doing it this way at all, although others are welcome ti disagree with me.
+1 for massive stretch and camber only really being suited to zoku cars.
175 50s and esm makes nice 15x9s +10s i would do 15x8s front and x9 rears with 4" lip :)
these are 15x8.5 +17 stock camber with 17550s.. x9+10 u might have to get camber kit n roll fenders
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