K24 I/H/E bolt on efficiency

Hi guys,

Long story short, car has past 200,000kms and I have the average compression of a average motor of this age should have which is about 150psi with little variance in all 4 cylinders which is 30psi lower than what i would have hoped as i was going to boost but have changed approach after that rude awakening.

The car is a Daily driver and with my busy schedule I don't really prefer going ahead with building a short block on the side while waiting for the engine to give out after a short period of boost.

So im thinking to commiting to a moddest N/A build starting with bolt-ons and a ems tuned accordingly.

Before I waste any more of my mechanics precious time i thought i'd ask this forum a question:

-Although engine wise its running pretty evenly, would the N/A build be fairly weak? How would the engine respond to the I/H/E combo tuned?

Currently have

-CAI
-Hytech replica 4-2-1 Headers + CAT to match.

Thinking about further improving the intake with a different manifold and throttle body as well. Also considering upgrading the vtc to suit.

Your help is greatly appreciated.
Thank you.

this is interesting, a cheap alternative to a full blown k20a swap. what are you likley to see on a stock engine with boltons (no cams but maybe vtc gear? whats it worth??) tuned. paired with a type r trans i imagine it would be quite a capable street/track setup. i dont know much about k series but i swapped a stock b20b8 into my ek, stock intake,with toda rep headers -catback and paired with a b16 box and s300. i much prefer this over the b16 for daily duties.

theres no replacement for displacement.

Check out Vvvtec's build thread.

Stock K24, type r vtc and oil pump, I/H/E, 150kwatw.

rrc, 3.5" intake, 70mm t/b, 3" zorst, 50vtc, type r oil pump, dc2.2, kpro, 4.7 fd hd clutch and dc5r flywheel

even with 160 atw will still be fairly slow for how much money this would cost lol

Yh you will be fine m8

Just swap gearbok over as well

Thank you all for the replies.

Just throwing it out there, lets say instead i wanted to go back to my original plans of supercharging the vehicle. Might not get enough info in the N/A section (sorry mods if im derailing from my own topic). Whats the chances of the motor blowing with lets say... a little bit under 200kw atw on a roots blower setup?

Why would it blow up? If you get a good tune you will have nothing to worry about. Thats the way to go imo for a big heavy family car. would make a good peppy cruiser, and you'd surprise a few k swap cars lol.

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Originally Posted by cheapdouchebag

Thank you all for the replies.

Just throwing it out there, lets say instead i wanted to go back to my original plans of supercharging the vehicle. Might not get enough info in the N/A section (sorry mods if im derailing from my own topic). Whats the chances of the motor blowing with lets say... a little bit under 200kw atw on a roots blower setup?

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Your chances of blowing your engine up at a little bit under 200kw at the wheels are actually better than average.
Roots blower = massive inefficiency = very hot air induction = low power = oooooh try a little harder tuning the turd to please the customer = KaaaaBooooM!
Just sayin....
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Must spread rep before giving it to Adrian again!

lol love the generalized statement ' Your chances of blowing your engine up at a little bit under 200kw at the wheels are actually better than average ' WTF Adrian, so its worse than 50/50 !! hahaha You keep on delivering !!

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Originally Posted by Stevil

lol love the generalized statement ' Your chances of blowing your engine up at a little bit under 200kw at the wheels are actually better than average ' WTF Adrian, so its worse than 50/50 !! hahaha You keep on delivering !!

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If BYP said the same , you would of taken it as fact :0)


To OP - it also depends on what chassis your motor is in - remember a euro isn't going to feel results anywhere as effectively as a stripped EG or teg.

Benjammin what you talk about ? I see a ridiclous statement that you have a better than average ( yeah I did Industrial Mathetmatics at Uni ) implying that the OP will have better than 50/50 chance of blowing his shit up.

So Benjammin do you really believe any boosted K24 producing more than 200kw atw has a 50/50 chance of blowing up ? you're a goose ! lol

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Originally Posted by Stevil

Benjammin what you talk about ? I see a ridiclous statement that you have a better than average ( yeah I did Industrial Mathetmatics at Uni ) implying that the OP will have better than 50/50 chance of blowing his shit up.

So Benjammin do you really believe any boosted K24 producing more than 200kw atw has a 50/50 chance of blowing up ? you're a goose ! lol

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Lol ! You didn't understand what Adrian was implying it seems. I mean LOL

So I shouldnt take what Adrian wrote at face value ???? and I should speculate to as what he implying ..... lol mate put the shovel down.

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Originally Posted by Stevil

Benjammin what you talk about ? I see a ridiclous statement that you have a better than average ( yeah I did Industrial Mathetmatics at Uni ) implying that the OP will have better than 50/50 chance of blowing his shit up.

So Benjammin do you really believe any boosted K24 producing more than 200kw atw has a 50/50 chance of blowing up ? you're a goose ! lol

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You need a refund on that course then mate.

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Originally Posted by Stevil

Benjammin what you talk about ? I see a ridiclous statement that you have a better than average ( yeah I did Industrial Mathetmatics at Uni ) implying that the OP will have better than 50/50 chance of blowing his shit up.

So Benjammin do you really believe any boosted K24 producing more than 200kw atw has a 50/50 chance of blowing up ? you're a goose ! lol

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Wow

50/50 chance is very spot on. I mean really. Anything has a 50/50 chance to do anything. Anyone with any maths education knows this.

No wonder you go to byp

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Originally Posted by Stevil

So I shouldnt take what Adrian wrote at face value ???? and I should speculate to as what he implying ..... lol mate put the shovel down.

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Well. What I took at face value is exactly what he said. You run an inefficient supercharger on a higher ks motor , and request more power from it from tuner and it's very likely to blow up.

You are very defensive of BYP mate.

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Originally Posted by Stevil

Benjammin what you talk about ? I see a ridiclous statement that you have a better than average ( yeah I did Industrial Mathetmatics at Uni ) implying that the OP will have better than 50/50 chance of blowing his shit up.

So Benjammin do you really believe any boosted K24 producing more than 200kw atw has a 50/50 chance of blowing up ? you're a goose ! lol

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tell us more about your life time worth of experience building and tuning motors.

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Originally Posted by RenzokukenJ

Wow

50/50 chance is very spot on. I mean really. Anything has a 50/50 chance to do anything. Anyone with any maths education knows this.

No wonder you go to byp

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50% of motors blow up m8. That's 1 in 2.

Many explosion. Such boom. BYP standards 4 lyfe.

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Originally Posted by newpaddy3

50% of motors blow up m8. That's 1 in 2.

Many explosion. Such boom. BYP standards 4 lyfe.

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Tbh actually pat, we are both incorrect. It's more 1:1 ratio of motors blowing that byp have touched.

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Originally Posted by RenzokukenJ

Tbh actually pat, we are both incorrect. It's more 1:1 ratio of motors blowing that byp have touched.

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My apologies, I was being conservative. You are indeed correct though.

Put the shovel down

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Originally Posted by RenzokukenJ

Tbh actually pat, we are both incorrect. It's more 1:1 ratio of motors blowing that byp have touched.

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Guise pls.

Engines are sold before blowing so ain't anyone's fault.

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Guise pls.

Engines are sold before blowing so ain't anyone's fault.

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Sorry, my mistake.

Cash sale, no receipt, no evidence either!

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fixed.

thnx bby

Where is Stevil ?

benjammin I find it interesting that you speak on Adrians behalf ? i was hoping Adrian would explain his comment, after all you keep on pumping him up !

As a moderator why are you behaving like a troll ? serious question, you seem to have either self esteem issues ? or you believe a Moderator should act like a douche, is everything OK at Home !

Where have I been ? Oh yeah had to go pick up my new fishin boat, been playing with it ;)

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Originally Posted by Stevil

benjammin I find it interesting that you speak on Adrians behalf ? i was hoping Adrian would explain his comment, after all you keep on pumping him up !

As a moderator why are you behaving like a troll ? serious question, you seem to have either self esteem issues ? or you believe a Moderator should act like a douche, is everything OK at Home !

Where have I been ? Oh yeah had to go pick up my new fishin boat, been playing with it ;)

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Don't mind me mate I'm not speaking on anyone's behalf - but I did agree with his comment implying an engine is only as strong as the tuner and if the customer pays and wants more it's likely to blow.
I don't think I was THAT bad I just feel you are strongly backing up BYP.
Anyway, enjoy the boat I'm looking at a tinny next tax time myself. You get a towbar it makes a world of fun from your car/4wd ;0)

mate I didnt mention any tuners or mech ? I like to learn things, I dont back anybody but myself.

Yeah tinnies can be alot of fun, esp with a fwd car and wet steep boat ramps !! lol

Subscribed lol

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Originally Posted by Stevil

benjammin I find it interesting that you speak on Adrians behalf ? i was hoping Adrian would explain his comment, after all you keep on pumping him up !

As a moderator why are you behaving like a troll ? serious question, you seem to have either self esteem issues ? or you believe a Moderator should act like a douche, is everything OK at Home !

Where have I been ? Oh yeah had to go pick up my new fishin boat, been playing with it ;)

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Shiet let the potato games begin

I'm still upset I didn't get to drive your car mate

It's good that we're all mates in here mate