FD Civic fuel consumption

Hi Everyone,

Didn't want to hijack another thread here about my fuel consumption but I've been hearing people getting over 400KM out of a Civic FD fuel tank... something which I have never, ever achieved since owning the car from new.

The highest I ever got was about 350KM before the light came up and I rushed to the nearest servo with one dot left on the guage.

I don't drive hard either, slow accelerations and never going past 3.5K RPM even when needing to overtake.

Doing the fuel consumption figures, I'm doing like 11.8L to 12.5L every 100KM which is pretty dismal as the Accord my parents drive does 13L with a 2.4L engine and they are doing start-stop traffic whereas I get a smooth continual flow at 70KMH for 15KM or so with only a traffic light or two.

I've found that with the AC on, it goes closer to the 13L/100KM mark.

Now to the petrol I use. I NEVER use e10 cause that gives me worse economy... like 13L+ per 100KM but fill up using 91 Unleaded, like non-e10. I've filled up at the same servo for the past 3 years as well, so I'm not mixing petrols.

What's sad? My older 2002 Corolla with over 100K on the dial does 10L every 100KM on the same driving environment. Civic has 27K KM on the dial and apparently an economical engine according to Honda...

How long do you let the fuel sit in the tank between refueling?

I usually get 9-10L/100km, and fill a full tank every week on v power. Stop start traffic and heavy foot.

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Originally Posted by lolmclol

How long do you let the fuel sit in the tank between refueling?

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About 2 to 3 weeks. I do 100KM a week at the moment cause I train to work and only go to uni with the car twice a week.

just so ya know, i got 7.8-8ish L/100km from the FD when i drove it.

you msut be doing really short distances, a lot of stop start driving or potating.

you also need to be using 95ron as a minimum, it says it in the owner's manual. Might be retarding timing/richening thinigs if it detects 91 to avoid knock

I find that the servo you get the fuel from makes a noticeable difference, i was getting i was getting around 350km to a tank at a local caltex but switching to bp added an extra 100kms each week

350 max out of a tank? No way.

New filters? I'd fill it with 98 and flog the crap out it for a while.

For my parents crv, i get around 350kms on a tank as well and an average of 15L/100 on a short route to the station each day. A civic should be getting a lot less than the crv. Just been serviced as well. This is on 91 fuel -.-
Is it bad to use 91?

Filled today, did 8.7L/100km. First time the fuel light came on, filled 40L for 460km.

your car's tuned for 95 so it's likely richening the mixture when it detects the 91 to try keep the temps down and avoid knock

i.e. yes it's bad

In the manual, it says 91 minimum.. but should still fill up with 95 right?

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Originally Posted by curtis265

your car's tuned for 95 so it's likely richening the mixture when it detects the 91 to try keep the temps down and avoid knock

i.e. yes it's bad

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I'll give 95 a go tonight and see how it goes. The sticker on the car says it can run e10 though... hopefully someone with a brain stuck that there and not say, Julia Gillard. LOL

P.S. I still don't get the go with the goveernment and this *need* to put in 10% of ethanol. If it was like E85, yeah I'd understand... but 10% WTF.

just fill it with 98. always.

2expensive

true. E10 all the way then....

Nah. Closest 98 is like 5-8km away

Fill when you're coming home from somewhere. Usually get a few more km out of 98 so might be worth them extra $

Stevo, have you put so much extra weight on your car with all the extras added that it's affecting fuel economy? Seriously, too many variables to tell you why your car is performing badly. I concur with Curtis, start with 95 fuel.
Your model can easily push out past 600.
Call your local honda mechanic and ask for opinion.

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Originally Posted by CrystalSkull

Stevo, have you put so much extra weight on your car with all the extras added that it's affecting fuel economy? Seriously, too many variables to tell you why your car is performing badly. I concur with Curtis, start with 95 fuel.
Your model can easily push out past 600.
Call your local honda mechanic and ask for opinion.

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I haven't got anything in the car apart from a few empty boxes in the boot. The Honda bodykit shouldn't be much weight as it's all plastic.

i would defo take it to get looked at.

Have you done a road trip to see highway figures?

I would guess a contributing factor of your high consumption is that your motor is still new(tight).

engines hit the sweat spot between 50k - 100k

below 50k, the motor is still tight. Above, things go downhill.

9-10kms /ltr 1.8 A/T...sinced the beggining

$30/5days 34kms/day on 98ron

whats peoples weights? im 122kgs.

Something to take into consideration, most of the users that report terrible fuel economy are driving automatic cars.

you do the threesix fuel challenge yet lol?

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Originally Posted by threesix

you do the threesix fuel challenge yet lol?

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I'm working on it, don't you worry ;-)

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Originally Posted by threesix

you do the threesix fuel challenge yet lol?

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please explain.

drink a litre of petrol and smoke a bong at the same time.

Pics of you doing it 1st

Just a thought... could the petrol station that I am filling up at have inaccurate readings on the meter thing on the bowser? Like 174KM --> 24L yesterday on 91 unleaded WTF. Only filled up because it was extremely cheap, like only 130-something per L.

I filled till the thing went "pop" and stopped pumping... nek minut, start car up and I am still one bar from full!

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Originally Posted by stevo1210

Just a thought... could the petrol station that I am filling up at have inaccurate readings on the meter thing on the bowser? Like 174KM --> 24L yesterday on 91 unleaded WTF. Only filled up because it was extremely cheap, like only 130-something per L.

I filled till the thing went "pop" and stopped pumping... nek minut, start car up and I am still one bar from full!

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I do 98 only. Average is about 160c/L . I get about 450km, and that's with horrible city driving, start stop traffic, and the occasional heavy foot to overtake.

Everytime it clicks, I always squeeze a little more, as like you said, when it clicks, and you stop there, its def gonna leave one bar from full.

Also (not sure if placebo), I realise if you park with the petrol cap pointing away from the pump itself, so you have to stretch the pump over the car to the other side, you can get a few more mL out of the pump. I noticed one day, when I almost dropped the pump onto the ground, a good few mLs of petrol flowed out of the pump handle, without me even pulling the trigger. So there's must be some left over fuel still in the pipes.

So by having the pipe stretched over the car, you ensure that whatever is in that pipe does not sit there, but instead drains into your tank, after u finish pumping.

And if you made it this far in reading... 130c/L vs 160c/L .. for our 40L tanks. at most it's about $12 extra. I always sit back and think, that's just a KFC zinger box that I can give up for 98 fuel.

Happy times.

i just filled up and waited for the 'pop'. always full bars.

my car always gets better milage when its stop start driving.

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Originally Posted by SharkChu

I do 98 only. Average is about 160c/L . I get about 450km, and that's with horrible city driving, start stop traffic, and the occasional heavy foot to overtake.

Everytime it clicks, I always squeeze a little more, as
And if you made it this far in reading... 130c/L vs 160c/L .. for our 40L tanks. at most it's about $12 extra. I always sit back and think, that's just a KFC zinger box that I can give up for 98 fuel.

Happy times.

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Afaik fd got 50l tank...once the led turns on..we still have 10ltrs of fuel

Had no bars left on the fuel gauge..fill up 12ltrs and trip meter dialed 115kms with 3bars left on the fuel gauge..60% stop and go traffic..

Atleast you fella's have a functional fuel guage, mine died about 3 mths after using E85 ! Trip meter keeps me going when i dont forget to press it.

Okay, so I've been filled up with 95 so now we wait. Had 1/3 of a tank left. Have noticed some difference as 100KM of driving and I use up 4 or 5 bars of the fuel guage as opposed to like 6 or 7 bars last time. Currently at 190KM and haven't reached mid point yet, two bars to go till mid point. This is very significant as I'd be under mid point at around 200KM and down to 1 bar at 350KM. I'll report back accordingly after another few "fill ups".

Okay, I now have some reporting to do.

9L/100KM FULL city cycle. Automatic gearbox. No combined, no freeway, just pure city driving in the worst conditions. Peak hour traffic and stuck in traffic jams on Parramatta road for a longgg time at 5PM afternoons. Heater running as well cause cold as dogs balls these days as well as driving lights/fog lights/ambient lights and also amp stereo system on mid/high volume. :P

...over 270KM and filled up only 25L. Bar guage on half tank left.

This is a first since I bought the car new - always did e10 or 91 till now after recommendations here. I am quite happy with this result. I filled up with 95, today I tried 98 and will see if it drinks any "less".

9/100km is still shithouse tho.

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Originally Posted by threesix

9/100km is still shithouse tho.

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doesn't seem too unreasonable for a lot of super traffic

i used to get like 8.0 with mixed driving


yh yh just piss off with ur hybrid shit okay m8y

Lol!!!

H8er

but since this is a thread about shxt fuel consumption DID I TELL YOU I DRIVE A HYBRID?????

You drive a hybrid, since when?

(-;

LOLOLOL.

i try NOT to say it too often but it just comes out.

i mean someone had to be a fool and buy one. :)

You're the one laughing when you fill up half as often though, ... But when the battery goes sour you know I'll be back ;-D

dude.... i think about that battery going to custard every day.....

then i will drive it into a wall.

Hahaha, something really bad would have to happen for it to go bad, you'll be alright, plus I'm sure you'll upgrade before you have to worry about it anyway :-P

YES! thats the positive shit i need to hear. REPS FR U!!

ive been looking at those supercharged aurion thingos. uber dad core.. but with the right rims and height.. maybe, just maybe, I COULD WIN LIFE.

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Originally Posted by threesix

but since this is a thread about shxt fuel consumption DID I TELL YOU I DRIVE A HYBRID?????

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dat highbrid horse

its lonely up here. :(

Hahaha I wouldn't keep it for too long though, you have a 2006/2007 model yeah?

Yeah the aurion would look pretty snazzy with the right image, and with Toyotas finance offer at the moment its decent value o.o

they are still making the supercharged aurions?!?! i thought it was just a run a few years ago. (im not blond but i am dumb as fxck so i could be wrong about it all)

yurp.. 2006 model. 100k on the clock.

i would love to buy a aurion and de-badge it and dump it. good cars imo.

sorry hijackoff thread.

Oh I'm not sure about the supercharged version of the aurion, haven't looked into them that closely, I'm sure you aren't dumb man, its not overly important information to know, so its all good.

Hahaha fuel thread now about Toyotas and getting new cars :-P

OzHomo = everything is important.

lolzz.. my friend is about to buy an 86. looking forward to see how it is. im following some dude on IG and his 86 build is balling outta control. dreams....

Everything is important, depending on the thread and the users posting ;-), some fun can be had trolling haha.

Some 86 builds, are just balling, all that money hah. But for the price they are its a decent base to start with. You definitely need 4 doors right? ;-)

yup. 4 doors of joy

My next car will be a Corolla though. Sad times. haha.

Have you ever let the mechanic clean your fuel injector?

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Originally Posted by cheungey

Have you ever let the mechanic clean your fuel injector?

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28,000KM on the clock. Am I already due for an injector clean? :O

When I drove a Commodore, I did that at 100K... but I dunno, good point there.

Check your manual for service schedule. But high fuel consumption is a accumulated result of many faults in the car. Could be your air filter being too dirty or something blocking your air intake or dirty oil, improperly inflated/worn out tyres, transmission oil get clogged or drive train problem, etc. I get around 450 till light goes up. Honestly, FDs are terrible in traffic. My tip for you though: learn where you get the most congested traffic, and turn your engine off for every point that you have to stop for more than 30 secs. Just anticipate it. Dont idle for too long, you'll be surprised how much fuel a FD burn on idle. Coast your way to a red light as much as possible (I dont know if it helps for automatic transmission), bringing a from full stop is obviously more fuel consuming than pushing it faster. Also, I noticed this from my old automatic cars, if you step on the accelerator hard (not too hard) so that the car goes through its lower gears quickly, you get better tank mileage than hovering around 2.5k - 3k rpm (Doesnt hurt to experiment yourself). Pour 98 or use engine clean once in a while, 98 has cleaning chemical mixed in it, it will help your car in terms of combustion efficiency. But since youre getting 9L/100Km now it seems okay for FDs. I get around 8.5 or 8.7 with moderate traffic.

I dont know how much hybrid FD consume fuel but I would say their best figure would be 5.5L/100Km (can't beat prius). On average normal FDs get 9L/100Km. So you save 3.5L for every 100Km. A typical annual mileage of a car would be 25k km. So you would save 3.5x250=875L. Given the fuel you pour is at 170c (assume 98, cause we're rich as fk). You save 875x1.7=$1487.5. How much more expensive a hybrid is compared to a VTI? 6k extra? (I'm not sure about this, can someone enlighten me on this? but I think its more than 6k) In the case of 6K extra, it would take you approximately 4 years to break even if you get a hybrid.

So yeah, I would say hybrid isn't worth it or if you get a bit lower tank mileage. Just blast your way and enjoy the car. Pretty much in 6-7 years, you would be getting a new car anyway. How much do you save if you drive like a grandma and miss out all the fun?

Just my opinion, correct me if i'm wrong

i get anywhere from 5.3 - 6.2/100

worst i ever get is 7/100

thats with rims and fat cxnt.

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Originally Posted by threesix

i get anywhere from 5.3 - 6.2/100

worst i ever get is 7/100

thats with rims and fat cxnt.

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Yup. That's what I thought. Prius gets 3.9 at best and 4.7 on average so my guess was correct

honda claim 4.7 though.

what toyota claim and what they actually get might be off...

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Originally Posted by threesix

honda claim 4.7 though.

what toyota claim and what they actually get might be off...

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Factory rates are always lower than actual rates anyway

Honda claims 7.9 for FD1 and 8.3 for FD2. I get no where near there with my FD2.

I dont know what toyota claims for their prius. I got all these figures from experience

Old thread dig up but what are thoughts on this ..

http://i.imgur.com/09AyYQm.jpg

09 FD Sport, standard everything, no mods, this is on v95 around town, ac on majority of the time and lots of stop starts. I swear my Vti-L had much better consumption >.<

Got it booked at Honda Southside to have the sensors checked, confirm everything is as it should be. hmm (will update on Monday once done)

Yeah the SOHC 1.8 was a fuel efficent bugga, I got mine down to 5.6L/100, the FD2 is heavier car, has DOHC, hence more mass in head = less fuel efficent !

sigh - that's bad. WTS: Will swap 09 Sport for VTI-L !! >.<

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sigh - that's bad. WTS: Will swap 09 Sport for VTI-L !! >.<

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Consumption seems about right. Mine is the same

So since the car was due for a service, took it in @ Southside Honda - only to be told it needs a major service. OK $682 later .. also had them check that nothing was playing up (well you'd hope they checked that on their own..) all good.

I got myself a K&N filter and tested different fuel. So the conclusion is BP 95 - It was showing 437kms travelled and there were 5 units still showing available on the fuel scale :) - I'm happy now.