hey fellas, im a newbie but was hoping someone could give a complete listening of differences between the two specs.
I've looked through the Integra category but don't think I've found such topic being covered.
Thanks in advance.
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hey fellas, im a newbie but was hoping someone could give a complete listening of differences between the two specs.
I've looked through the Integra category but don't think I've found such topic being covered.
Thanks in advance.
I don't know if you can edit post or not since I can't find a button if they existed but I would also like to ask for the differences between the aus Type R and the american RSX.
Thanks
Im dont know of all of the differences but they are, JAP Spec have Brembo brakes, red engine cover, different rims, headers are different. Thats all I know and also that they are 220HP at the crank I quite sure. They have bit more power.
About 20kw more on the jdm.
Yeah about that, I knew it has 20something and went for the HP:) I was wrong.
You'll find quite a bit of info on the DC5R in this thread. There is a comparison to the RSX too.
http://www.ozhonda.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2223
jdm has jdm clutch, jdm ecu, jdm flywheel, jdm gears, jdm cams, jdm lsd, jdm cover... random guess lol :D
rsx has acura badging, differernt interior trim....still k20a :P
cool thanks for the replies fellow honderers
jdm dc5r has hollow aluminium front control arms to allow for different offset for the brembo caipers
their offset is +60
think they have different gear ratios compared to aus dc5r
Different rims, and power difference, that's all I know for sure.
is it hard to put aus spec up to jap spec powers ?
it's so sad that we're rorted with a aus spec different from jap spec (this applies for many models).
it may be because of different emisson rules? i could be wrong :P
Aussie DC5R spec engine is the same engine as fitted in Europe to Type R Civic. This engine is also used in a "cooking" version of JDM Integra.
:thumbsdown:
The reason that they rebadged RSX as a type R is primarly for the cost. If Honda dealers were selling real JDM type Rs with all the extra stuff, it would be well over 60k.. and at that price, not many ppl would op to get a Type R as a sports car.. They probaly go for other cars like STIs, EVOs etc etc..
Hey there,Quote:
Originally Posted by eveo
The differences are:
Jap Spec has : 8400 red line (8900 cut out), 162kW/200Nm (147/192 AUDM), VTC works on both the intake and exhaust cycle (AUDM just intake), 17" rims, variable pressure exhaust sytem, red valve cover (that weighs 200g less! jip!), Brembos, different guage cluster (also speed limited 180kmh), shiny red H badge on the steering wheel (AUDM is matt), aluminium front control arms (some sort of other metal alloy AUDM), larger intake manifold, thicker rear sway bar 22mm (18mm AUDM), weight distribution 61:39 (AUDM 62:38 ) and ofcourse different emissions stuff (ie Cat).
Hope this helps.....
There's more differences to the US RSX and AUDM DC5R than meets the eye....
AUDM has:
JDM chassis (lighter by ~20-30 kgs), Recaros, type R badging/decals, momo steering wheel, LSD, Type R body kit, blackened out headlights (US has silver ones) and a different final drive.
the new 04 DC5R's come with shiny red H badge as well 8)Quote:
shiny red H badge on the steering wheel (AUDM is matt),
mine will be!
the new 04 DC5R, anything different or exactly the same ?
i've read somewhere that the washer nozzel will also be body colour instead of black
why can't they just design it like the dc2 without holes in the bonnet and have it near the wippers.. :x
Near the wippers? The whipers? Hehe... Do you mean the wipers Tofu? It's more sleek that way huh? Anyone know when the next model dcX is coming out?
yah....i did type wipers but then i retyped it with double "p"...lol
anyway...i know my engrish spelling skills aren't that good yet, even though i have been here in aus for 16 years... :oops:
are the headlights on the same on Aus Spec and Jap Spec?
Thanks.
no
jdm type r had hid
jdm base model has the same as our dc5
yes there are power differences and slight cosmetic difference but i think the other reason that we dont get something closer to the new jdm dc5 is that the jdm dc5 engine is made to run of 100 ron fuel which we dont really have here (i think most premium is 98).
if they have those big red brembos on them they must be quick :D
AUD DC5 Has also Type R Brake Ducts. RSX-S Doesnt!!!
I thought the AUDM gearbox is diff from the RSX. The AUDM DC5R comes with 6 speed and lsd + light weight flywheel. Correct me if I'm wrong.
you might be right there
RSX has no LSD
RSX gearbox has rubber bushings while we have metal ones.
AUDM flywheel is 7.6kg while JDM flywheel is 4.1kg
JDM DC5R also has a different set of dials. Theirs comes with a nice "Type R" logo that lights up when the lights are on but the max speed shown is 180km/h whereas the AUDM max speed is 240km/h. This is also different from the RSX which shows speed in MPH.
There is a shitload of difference between the AUDM DC5R and the USDM DC5S so anyone who tells you that they are effectively the same has obviously only scratched the surface. They have the same engine... K20A2 (so whomever said it was the K20A, you're wrong) and they have the same suspension. Apart from that, you won't find alot that is the same. US guys on ClubRSX spend over 10k USD to convert their cars into what resembles an AUDM DC5R, so to say they are the same is naive.
just a quick question
is the jdm brembo brakes 4 pot or 2 pot
they are 4 pot. the rear brakes are the same as oursQuote:
Originally Posted by vinhy
i asked a US member of ClubRSX whom has swapped his suspension and brakes to the JDM ones and presuming AUDM DC5R brakes are the same as the USDM DC5S, they rear brakes are not the same. But they do house the same size pads.Quote:
Originally Posted by matt
oh ok i thought they were the same.
isnt the AUDM dc5r speed max speed dail 260km/h plus the rpm goes to 9000 (red starts at 7800rpm)..?
yeah thats right, JDM speedo only goes to 180km/h :thumbdwn: but rpm redlines at 8400rpm :thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by fuze
a question for all dc5r owners,
how fast (max speed) has anyone gone with a standard dc5r..?
Max speed on the DC5R Dial is 260km/hrQuote:
Originally Posted by sangsational
They do 240-245 to my knowledge...Quote:
Originally Posted by fuze
i've gone 23x-24x
if i remember correctly its about 5th gear just nearing fuelcut
wondering where abt u can reach over 2xxKm... on a track?
JDM fly wheel heavier than AUDM ooh interesting... I used to think JDM & AUDM had no differences just badges lol. *n00b*
out of curiosity how many original dc5 typer owners are in oz?
Anyone imported a brand new JDM DC5R into Aus? My brother is buying a new DC5R and it seems more logical to purchase the JDM one.
:zip: none wow...
JDM DC5R's cannot be imported into Aus as road cars.
Not legally anyway!!
Quote:
Originally Posted by fuze
244kph (data logged)
Conrod straight during 2003 2hr Showroom Showdown.
JDM has different rear bumper too, that is the most easiest thing to tell the different between them
you won't get that speed on a track, well at least i can't at wakefieldQuote:
Originally Posted by R123
JDM DC5R = 162kW/200Nm
WOW thats ausome!! is this because of the different internals, exhaust, ECU etc?
Hi guys
check this link out, it give's you the spec's for the jap DC5R.
14.3 for 400m fark me!
http://www.itr-dc5.co.uk/spec/index.php
dam.. that awsome...1/4 time
I've have elegably taken my DC5S to 250k down the M4.Quote:
Originally Posted by CJL
keep in mind that the jdm spec has a better exhaust system and is tuned to 100 ron fuel. If the aussie ones had a better exhaust system and were tuned to run 100ron fuel there would be a considerable increase in power and torque.
there is alot more differences than just the exhuast and fuel requirements. compression ratio and cam profiles just a couple of differences.Quote:
Originally Posted by didz
well obviously there are a lot more differences, it's a different motor! I am just stating that if the aussie one was tuned to 100ron and had better a exhaust system it would have a considerable power increase.
agree:wave:Quote:
Originally Posted by didz
ah cools, just makin sure :pQuote:
Originally Posted by didz
higher compression, and different cams is the only diff between the engines right?
besides the bolt ons like exhaust. stock audm dc5r has a very restrictive exhaust.
JDM muffler work like mugen twinloop....it got a valve inside and will open up when you're in high rev....intake manifold is different too.....ex manifold is also different......head gasket...cam....
don't know where you get the idea that the muffler has a special magical valve inside that opens... that's complete rubbish.Quote:
Originally Posted by air23box
It was found out that there is a valve that opens when vtec engages in jdm exhause systems for the dc5r. It was covered in a thread here but i cant find it :/Quote:
Originally Posted by barefootbonzai
I think I've also seen the same article. someone on another site bought one and cut it open.
Yes you're correct i remember now. It had pics and all! very interesting.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hullabaloo
It actually opened a valve which allowed the exhaust gasses to pass through the muffler freely without being restricted (correct me if im wrong).
there we go! :D
Now this is rubbish.....lol.....stop posting if you dun know shit about that:thumbdwn:Quote:
Originally Posted by barefootbonzai
top speed, 266, on the limiter, completely stock... white knuckle on the freeway top of 6th gear
very scary compared to other heavier cars,
im a mehanic at a ferrari dealership, so we do 300 on the freeway almost every day, since the owners always have jammers and detectors fitted. the wind noise and stability in the dc5 type r was scary!
O rly? Which Ferrari dealership?Quote:
Originally Posted by black_dc5_type_r
our TypeS can do 14.8s stock (well, with a catback)Quote:
Originally Posted by maracer
i got time slip to prove it :p
Our Type S can do 14.7 stockQuote:
Originally Posted by Tofu
and 14.5 with GruppeM intake everything else stock.
hmm...why bother with a JDM DC5R besides the brembos then right? :p
the only thing i want from the JDM DC5R Facelift is the Gearbox.
It revised and shorter each gear. Quicker than the prefacelift DC5R.
Is each gear shorter or is it just a different final drive?
Has anyone ever weighed their car at a weighbridge?
Dude each gear is shorter and also the final drive is different.
U cant get a JDM DC5r in Australia
^ yes you can there's 2 on the Gold Coast.
but i don't think he's in Australia tho
So your saying there is a whole 2 JDM Facelift DC5R's in australia.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tofu
I still think it very difficult to import.
not unless it's a private import :thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by EL_DC5
I would love to do that....
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Originally Posted by [RSX 03]