is my civic an ef9

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18-04-2005, 10:11 PM
gnx1987

is my civic an ef9

I bought an import civic off a mate a few months ago and I've been asked if it's an ef9 a few times to which I reply I don't know. What I know is it was imported from japan as a 90 model which apparently it's australian equivalant is a 91 model, it's got a b16a in it (which from reading the papers i got with it is from a written off 93 del sol), it's got rear wheel discs, electric sunroof, electric mirrors, electric retractable mirrors and climate control. Help on this matter would be appreciated. P.S. Don't ask about the VIN I don't think it's the original number.
18-04-2005, 11:01 PM
UW15HN

hey open your engine bay.. and near the front grill or somewhere on the engine bay area you will see a metal plate with the model of ur car

it should say somehting like ef9........
18-04-2005, 11:05 PM
z3lda

look at ur firewall right under the middle section of the windscreen. you should see your VIN. your VIN will tell whether or not ur car is an EF9
18-04-2005, 11:30 PM
ah8118

hmmm... from recollection, i had a firend who prev. had an ef9. and i am 90% sure that ef9 civics do not have sunroof. although someone could have added a sunroof at some point of the car's life, but yeah... pretty sure ef9's did not have sunroofs. :)
18-04-2005, 11:35 PM
z3lda

look at the diagram for the fuses under the steering wheel. see what language its in.
19-04-2005, 07:47 AM
egSi

look at chassis plate under bonnet
19-04-2005, 07:58 AM
Setanta

Quote:

Originally Posted by ah8118

hmmm... from recollection, i had a firend who prev. had an ef9. and i am 90% sure that ef9 civics do not have sunroof. although someone could have added a sunroof at some point of the car's life, but yeah... pretty sure ef9's did not have sunroofs. :)

My EF9 does, as do the EF9s of a few friends in NZ. It was an optional spec, as was SiR/SiR II/race trim.

If the motor is from a del sol it could be questionable - but the climate control is NOT a straight swap into an ED6 so you could have a JDM spec car at least (CC was optional on all JDM 4Gs).
19-04-2005, 09:48 AM
garett

the VIN number is definately the original
it cant be changed.. if it has the car is stolen
the first few letters and numbers of the vin No would be EF9 then heaps of gibberish
19-04-2005, 09:50 AM
garett

is the engine from a jdm del sol

on the engine number does it say B16a or B16a2

if its a2 then the engine is aus spec
19-04-2005, 09:58 AM
chartinael

well, the title must have the vin in it. If not, the vin has to be on the chassis. The Chassis code ist something with EF9 then thats what you've got. If you don't know, post pics of any metal plate found on your chassis in this thread. plenty of folks should be able to help you out.

If the engine is from a del sol, it is an A2. Only the A1 is found in the previous generation.

krisitn
19-04-2005, 10:14 AM
z3lda

Quote:

Originally Posted by garett

the VIN number is definately the original
it cant be changed.. if it has the car is stolen
the first few letters and numbers of the vin No would be EF9 then heaps of gibberish

yes the vin can be changed.

if you have EG breeze and u importanted a EG6 and u can't get it registered. u can cut 'n' paste the breeze vin onto the EG6.
19-04-2005, 04:30 PM
Setanta

VIN change = angle grinder + mig.

I hope it isn't for your sake.
19-04-2005, 10:56 PM
gnx1987

I looked at that spot where the VIN is meant to be and nothing was there but just off to the left about 8 inches are a bunch of letters and numbers stamped in to the firewall (not on a plate) with the first three characters being EF9. Well there you go. The engine swap was done in japan so it must be a JDM motor, and the exhaust has 2 oxy sensors therefore apparently making it a b16a1. Also some interesting facts on the ef9 wouldn't go astray, I don't know heaps about honda's, but from what I understand the ef9's pretty good. Thanks everyone.
20-04-2005, 12:10 AM
z3lda

Quote:

Originally Posted by Setanta

VIN change = angle grinder + mig.

I hope it isn't for your sake.

plus liquid paper if your car is white or coloured texter if you've got a coloured car :)
20-04-2005, 12:12 AM
z3lda

if you've got climate control, rear disc and japanese fuse diagram you should be fine. not many ppl willl go to that lengths for a gen 4 civic to look so jdm.
the original engine could of died and had to be replaced.
20-04-2005, 12:33 AM
EG5

jdm ef9 : cable clutch gearbox
delsol : hydro clutch gearbox
20-04-2005, 11:26 AM
garett

Quote:

Originally Posted by chartinael

well, the title must have the vin in it. If not, the vin has to be on the chassis. The Chassis code ist something with EF9 then thats what you've got. If you don't know, post pics of any metal plate found on your chassis in this thread. plenty of folks should be able to help you out.

If the engine is from a del sol, it is an A2. Only the A1 is found in the previous generation.

krisitn

in japan the b16a2 is only labeled a b16a the jap spec engines dont have the number at the end
20-04-2005, 11:28 AM
garett

Quote:

Originally Posted by z3lda

yes the vin can be changed.

if you have EG breeze and u importanted a EG6 and u can't get it registered. u can cut 'n' paste the breeze vin onto the EG6.
20-04-2005, 11:29 AM
garett

cut and paste.....?

haha this isnt photoshop
20-04-2005, 11:33 AM
garett

Quote:

Originally Posted by gnx1987

I looked at that spot where the VIN is meant to be and nothing was there but just off to the left about 8 inches are a bunch of letters and numbers stamped in to the firewall (not on a plate) with the first three characters being EF9. Well there you go. The engine swap was done in japan so it must be a JDM motor, and the exhaust has 2 oxy sensors therefore apparently making it a b16a1. Also some interesting facts on the ef9 wouldn't go astray, I don't know heaps about honda's, but from what I understand the ef9's pretty good. Thanks everyone.

another way to tell determine which b16 it is, the rocker cover says VTEC then on the bottom says either-

honda motor co. (b16a1)

honda (b16a2)
20-04-2005, 11:43 AM
z3lda

Quote:

Originally Posted by garett

cut and paste.....?

haha this isnt photoshop

angle grinder and a welder to be more teknical lol
20-04-2005, 11:59 AM
garett

haha.... yeh i got it
20-04-2005, 05:18 PM
gnx1987

The motor also has 2 air flow sensor tubes going into the intake pipe (one to rocker cover, one to throttle body) whereas apparently the aus spec is only meant to have one. And I believe the tranny has a cable clutch. Once again a request on interesting facts on the ef9.
20-04-2005, 06:11 PM
z3lda

Quote:

Originally Posted by gnx1987

The motor also has 2 air flow sensor tubes going into the intake pipe (one to rocker cover, one to throttle body) whereas apparently the aus spec is only meant to have one. And I believe the tranny has a cable clutch. Once again a request on interesting facts on the ef9.

the motor has nothing to do with it beenin a real EF9 as he posted that the engine has been replaced
20-04-2005, 08:54 PM
gnx1987

I know. But people keep going on about the differences between aus spec and jdm motors and the differences between a1's and a2's, so I thought I'd throw in my 2 cents
20-04-2005, 09:19 PM
chartinael

Quote:

Originally Posted by garett

in japan the b16a2 is only labeled a b16a the jap spec engines dont have the number at the end

Yes garret, but that should not be a problem ... the label of the engine is irrelevant as it will still be an A2 and not an A1. Oh of course unless he is not able to tell the difference without the label ;-)

kristin