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Hi guys i'm thinking of doing a small amount of modding to my car. The first thing i'm thinking of getting is the Euro R grill. But i have a few questions at this point.
1. Can i order this grill from Australia and how much would it cost?
2. Is it difficult to install? Can i DIY or do i need somebody to install it for me?
3. Will changing the grill void my Honda warranty?
Hopefully i can get some answers soon. Thanks for the help guys. :D
don't worry about the warranty.... if the grille falls appart though obviously tehy won't replace it. But it shouldn't affect anything else.
as for your other questions.... there good ones haha i wouldn't mind knowing the answers either;)
1. Can i order this grill from Australia and how much would it cost?
Yes, I'm pretty sure many places that sell bodykits or car accessories (ie. Carmate, Motorware etc) will be able to order one in for you, prices varies heavily because the grill is not a common item that is being brought in. Possibly the cheapest option is to buy one off a reliable internet site in America and have it shipped over. Also, contact the various OzHonda traders for help, they support the site and give us reasonable prices...
2. Is it difficult to install? Can i DIY or do i need somebody to install it for me?
From what I heard, it's only the clips that are a pain to remove as it is rather tight.... Contact Euro77 for help...
3. Will changing the grill void my Honda warranty?
Like I've said many times, IF the item in question is damaged due to it's relationship with your after-market part, the warranty will not stand. For example, you put in the grille and because of that it cracked/broke another part of the car panel/part, you will not a warranty claim against that.
Hope this helps...
CHEERS
Nick
carmate would not stock this grille because i asked them (this was about 6 months ago). like euroaccord13 said, this grille is a JDM item and would cost a bit. your best bet would be the traders. ebay is ok but be sure its the euro R grille, not some bodgy ripoff. PM LOC888 as he had his installed.
If you are based in Sydney, contact IS Motoracing and ask for Chris.
install wise, there are 4 clips that u have to take off from memory. these clips can be undone with a flathead screwdriver and just popping em out. there are 2 at the top which are relatively easy, but there are 2 on the bottom of the grille attached to the front bar. this is an absolute PITA to get out but once u get em, the hard part is done
warranty shouldnt be a big worry here. exactly what euroaccord13 said
Thanks for the help fellas. Cheers! :thumbsup:
other way is to import them, www.boomplustoys.com & www.polepositionproducts.com both sells them, think they are in Canada.
yes, there are a few clips that are a b*tch to remove underneath the grill. Best way to do it is to undo your bumper and take the s*cker out
Merging Tiago's Question to this Thread
Reason : Similar Question in asking....
Just been lookin through the threads and was wondering if anyone could help me out with info on how to import a mugen grill from japan for the euro seeing as though it aint possible to purchase them here in australia..
THanx
Welcome to Oz Honda Tiago, please introduce yourself in the Intro Lounge :)
Your question is related in a similar way to this thread...
To avoid answering to threads of similar questions, I am merging this thread together and editing the Title of this Thread :)...
CHEERS
Ebay has these type grilles on for sale.
If you want genuine mugen, Peekay34 on our accord forums has got a mugen grille from our neighbours in NZ. It might be cheaper to import it from NZ than from Japan if ur looking for original mugen stuff. Although i could be wrong.
there are other places which stock mugen grille like
http://www.polepositionproducts.com
http://www.aj-racing.com
http://www.japanparts.com/
if you're based in sydney, try
http://www.ismotorracing.com/home.htm
and ask/email Chris. These guys should be able to source you just about anything mugen for the euro. If you're in a diff. state, im sure they are willing to ship to your location. Hope this helps :D
Thanks for the detailed info. I'm going to give Chris a call today. Cheers! :D
Ok i've talked to Chris. Genuine Euro R grill + Installation = $200 AUD all up. He mentioned the need to replace the audio panel or something. Does anybody know what he's talking about?
To all the fella's that live in Perth W.A, went to Prestige Honda today & saw a brand spanking new Standard Euro with the Euro R grille on it in the Showroom... My friend that works there lied to me, heheheh he said that there was a Euro-R in the showroom... (Guess he wanted me to come ova and see him and that was the only way to danggle a carrot for me to see him)...
It had the full factory kit with Euro R grille.. But other then that it was the standard blue Accord Euro... So Dealers are adding them in as options....
So definetly u can get them from Prestige Honda... Didn't ask the price for it though coz i know that it would have costed dearly...
what does audio have to do with installing a grille? :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by sodaz
I think me means the panel on top of the radiator..
yeah, he is referring to the radiator panel.
Hope this helps
http://www.members.westnet.com.au/loc888/grille.jpg
You don't need this panel our cars come standard with it. I have the Mugen grille on my car and I did not need it. The only thing that is required is a small modification to the plastic panel that comes with the car.
Thanks for the diagram and clarification LOC888. He wasn't too clear about the panel thing and i thought it didn't make sense either. I'll have a chat with him in person tomorrow and then hopefully i'll place an order for it. :D
This is interesting. Can you ask your friend how much the Euro R grille is?Quote:
Originally Posted by Pum[Z]
hey, if you don't mind me asking,Quote:
Originally Posted by Peekay34
how much did the mugen grill cost you?
$250 US dollars plus shipping.
Anyone got the Euro-R rear badging as well? There pretty cheap - around $40 US if i remember correctly...
Theres also the Euro-R gauge background, its pretty much the same as ours, but sais Euro-R on the top, and i think the color of the needles is different :D
yeah it says EURO R and its red.
If you REEEAAALLLY want EURO R Badges... I can get them from Malaysia CHEEEEAP when I go back heheheheheheh... Ricer :P
IS Motoracing currently have them in stock...
Quote:
Originally Posted by kam
I have the front and rear badges from www.boomplustoys.com
does anyone know how much aftermarket grilles usually way? my sister is going to singapore and i'm thinking of asking her to pick up a WALD grille while she's there. Too big, or will i get away with it? coz damn that would save a lot of money.
Ok order placed. Will let you guys know how it goes. :D
from your picture, it looks like you got the mugen grill ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Peekay34
Yes I have the Mugen grille.
EuroAccord13 Edit
*Merging This Thread*
I don't know if this has been found before, but those looking for a Euro R grille might like to look at
http://www.racingdimension.com/index...ROD&ProdID=243
I don't know about delivery but the grille is US$135 -- without the H badge.
They also sell the aluminiumn gear shift knob ($57.50) and the pedals ($199.95).
Actually, I take that back: I just found the site says that they ship within the US only. Mightn't hurt to email and ask though...
can always use a service like www.shopthestates.com to buy from places that ship to US only.
EuroAccord13 Edit
*MERGING THIS THREAD*
This is a bit a of a follow on of some discussion at
http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=21295
but I just noticed an Australian Euro where the Mugen grille obviously isn't a clean fit and that whole radiator cover change-over becomes important again.
Have a look at
http://www.tsxclub.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7710
I love the mesh grille but I hate the gap!
cruised out there and had a look this arvo. Yep sure is euro r grill.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pum[Z]
TBH though i dont like it:thumbdwn:
U asked Prestige Honda how much it costs to buy the Euro R grill from them Timbo??Quote:
Originally Posted by PERTH_EURO
nope
Hey guys i've got the Euro R grill installed already. Haven't had the chance to take pics yet but i like the new look. I'll post some pics later on.
Usually my car doesn't rev as freely after i drive it once during the day. It was different today though. My gf also drove it and said the same thing. I suspect the grill helps the engine cool a little bit better. But I'll try again tomorrow and see how it goes. It's kinda cool as i only expected a cosmetic change. :thumbsup:
sorry to dissapoint you, but the grill would make no dif to the temp your engin runs at.
enjoy the better performance still :thumbsup:
I tried driving my car again today and it's definitely revving quicker. It just doesn't have the sluggish feeling that i experienced before. If it's not related to the grill, then i really don't know what's causing the change since that's the only thing i've replaced in the car so far. :confused: But either way i'm very pleased with the changes. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by PERTH_EURO
sodaz do u have any more information on how much you payed for installation and parts etc? I'd like a euroR grille but really don't know where to start
How the car revs is up to the ECU - air temp, barometric pressure, how hard you push the car that day etc etc. It is always adjusting.Quote:
Originally Posted by sodaz
The grill isn't going to make any difference - you will notice more performance difference removing the spare wheel, jack and any other things you happen to be carrying in the car.
Chris_F,Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris_F
I paid $250 in total for the grill and installation. The place i got it from is called ismotorracing. They don't usually have the grill in stock but they can order it for you from Japan. Takes about a month or two for it to arrive.
yfin,
The car just doesn't feel sluggish like before after i drive it. I drive it everyday so i detect any changes quite quickly. Maybe it's just the engine breaking in but i'm not really sure.
250, wow, cheaper than i thought. Im definitley going to do it now.
Sodaz - please post up some pics of your install and what is included for that price -ie did you get the hood trim or did you leave that silver? How much is it without the install?Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris_F
No probs yfin. I'll post some pics up asap so you guys can see what it looks like. I kept the stock silver hood trim. For the price you only get the grill and the radiator panel. They install it for free but you might be able to get it cheaper if you are willing to do it yourself.
so the grille comes painted then on the lower section? or you have kept all the chrome?
my main reason for buying it is to get rid of the chrome
I see. I'm not sure how the trim works exactly but i think the guy mentioned that you can replace it somehow. Just give them a buzz and they should be able to give you an answer.
Ok - I get it - grill change only. Removing the chrome looks better I think but probably not as noticeable on a silver car.
sodaz, looking good. The chrome on the silver doesn't really stand out to bad at all with that grille.
Hi Sodaz,
Did you get the grill done at IS motorracing?
Coz i was there on the weekend when a silver euro fitted the same grill on.
read page 4.... yes he didQuote:
Originally Posted by leungie
I contacted ismotorracing about the grille today hopefully i can get some information out of them.
Anyong think it'd be cheaper to have it shipped from the states or ebay?
Car parts always seem over priced in australia in comparison even with the weaker dollar.
well i got a reply (it's been ok'd to be posted up):
Hi Chris,
Thank you for you enquiry. We do import the Euro R grill.
Please find below the pricing for the Euro R parts.
1. Grill + radiator panel : $200
2. Bonnet trim : $100
3. Grill under : $100
4. Euro R badge Rear (IN STOCK) : $50.
I'm not really sure about the front Euro R badge. I have to check that for you.
Shipping is extra, but that can be worked out later.
Note. 2 and 3 are the color trims surrounding the grill.
CHRIS LEONG
IS MOTOR RACING
Unit 5, 5-7 Bermill St Rockdale NSW 2216
Tel: 02 9599 9918
Fax: 02 9599 9981
Is the radiator cover needed? - overall the price is a bit more than what i was expecting - but damn i love the grille. I wonder if an american would wana buy my stocko one.
It is needed if you are putting in the euroR grill, because they have slightly different design. You can still use your OEM one but you need to modify it a bit, if I'm not mistaken Peekay use the OEM one for his Mugen grill. Ask him how he slightly cut the radiator cover.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris_F
ok thanks... peekay, if you get a chance could you post up what was required to do. I'd pm but others are probably interested
I was going to purchase a grill but decided against it. I personally think having either the Euro-R grille or the Mugen grille would suit better if one had a body kit on the car - which i don't have.
Since my car is at the panel beaters, getting the rear fixed up - bumper + boot lid and left hand corner structure damage. I'm also getting that deep dent i got awhile ago patched up and also getting the hood trim and grille trim sprayed to match body colour :)
the stock grille has grown a liking on me (with the sleek horizontal layers), it's just the chrome i feel which makes it look meh.
virIIx - i totally agree. When my car was in the panel shop i asked them to do the same but they refused even when i insisted. They said they wouldn't do anywork that they couldn't guarantee and that they didnt know how well the paint would adhere to the chrome surface :thumbdwn:
If the place is goin to charge you for painting the grill it might be worth picking up the pre-coloured trim pieces from ISmotorracing. expensive at 200 bucks but at least your mroe or less guaranteed that the paint will stick. It's something i might do aswell because like you said its the chrome thats the main problem with the grille
Chris_F, is that for both the hood trim and the grille trim? didn't know it was locally available.
They're only charging me $150 to get it painted, which i don't have an issue with, that seems fair. It's not guaranteed they said but is anything these days? honestly.. *points to the clutch topic* :)
They need to sand it down and apply some stuff which i can't remember what it's called now lol.. tip of the tongue.. and paint it up.
If IS motorsport does have access to both the hood and grille trims pre-coloured for $200 then I might buy it if my one bodges up later down the track.
I was going to replace the chrome bits too but then i realised that the Euro-R doesn't have chrome around the windows. I decided that it was going to look funny if i only changed the front. What do you guys think?
I don't mind the chrome around the windows.
I find it funny if someone has weather protectors on the windows, as the chrome is removed, and it seems half arsed if u know what i mean :)
personally never noticed euro-r without chrome on windows o.O
virIIx, the guy at IS said stated "Note. 2 and 3 are the color trims surrounding the grill." (2. Bonnet trim : $100 3. Grill under : $100) at the end of his email.
I'm assuming that they are coloured given what he said... but :confused: that may be for the unpainted pieces. If so i'd rather just go get it painted.
So true about the guarantee - i couldn't see the logic in my panel shop saying they wouldnt do it because the guarantee it even after i stressed that i was willing to take on the risk. These days they are probably expecting me to turn around and sue them for a bad job haha.
I wouldn't mind some opinions aswell, who thinks the complete euro-R grille is worth the extra money vs. just getting the grille trims painted?
Chris_F,
I think if you don't like the chrome bits you should just paint it. Getting the Euro R grill for your reason is a waste of money imo. I'm sure you can get somebody to powercoat the chrome parts for not a lot of cash.
ok, i think thats a better option cost wise aswell.
I really like the look of the euro-r grille but for that much money i don't think i like it enough. and besides i don't even have a euro-R kit to compliment it.
Sodaz do u know if those trim pieces are pre-painted? If so i wouldn't mind buying those as i could return the car to stock with the chrome down the track and possibly even sell the jdm trim.
They should all come pre-painted.. at least that's what i'd think. Just like the oem body kits - already pre-painted.
I also agree with you, as much as the euro-r/mugen grille's do look nice, you need a body kit to go with it, otherwise it just doesn't seem quite right :)
i pickup my car tomorrow afternoon from the panel beaters, so i'll see how good of a job is done. Will post pics if time forbids.
I think you should just give them a call and ask them. They should be able to give you a definite answer.
VirIIx i got the OEM bodykit.. just not the euro-R version.
i recently saw these pictures
http://tsx.acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23697
and they really make a point for the entire grille - i think it looks great on that guys car.
tough decision
Picked up the car like as if it was brand new, all clean and polished and everything!
The painted grille looks very sexy as well - excellent job!!
I've got one pic of it up, aplogies for lack of variety, but I figured i'd show off the lights too as well :)
http://members.optushome.com.au/viri...eurogrille.jpg
hey! nice!
but arent the blue parkers illegal?
they're technically 4 white led's together.
i guess at that kind of density it looks blueish :)
haha gotta love the technicalities - even so i still think any foward facing led's are illeagle? who cares looks awesome! specially on the blue euro.
I really like how those painted trim pieces look! I've decided to do the same but will be getting the trim pieces imported because i'm guessing having them painted would only be slightly cheaper.
Get some more pics up if you can (in daylight). It's hard to see the affect removing the chrome has.
get rid of that number plate holder :thumbsup:
It does look ugly with the plate holder, and i've been wanting to rid of it quite sometime.. just gotta sit down on a weekend and fiddle with it.
As requested a day picture of the car. Had a nice angle shot too but there was too much glare and i'm doing it while im at work.
Looks nice :)
god the car is damn sexy when clean.. give it a few days and the magic will be gone lol
http://members.optushome.com.au/viri.../daygrille.jpg
Man that's nice.. i've been thinking of doing that for ages.. just never got around to doing it...
How much did it ended up costing
Did you get the chrome on the side painted (black on euro-Rs) too?
A friend mentioned about getting a license plate holder that holds the plate to the side (evo like), what u guys think about taht?
Goddaanng~ that's seriously nice!!
Well done VirIIx
leungie: $150 to get it painted, they took it off, primed it, painted. Not guaranteed as they all push you on that. You'll find a lot of people will be hessitant in doing it. I told them, just do it! i understand, if it comes off, it comes off :)Quote:
Originally Posted by leungie
I left the sides chrome, it's the front mainly that bugs me being chrome as it stands out heaps on a dark coloured car.
I personally like the number plate in the middle tho - no idea why, it's just symmetrical :)
cheers :)Quote:
Originally Posted by baboo
it's a nice but simple and effective mod - only time will tell how reliable the job was. Next upgrade rear whiteline swaybars hopefully lol.
wow! nice job there!!!
i got a quote from chris at IS motoracing in regards to the chrome strip.....
its about 90-100 bucks apparently.....
thats all i'll be needing as i will be gettin a front bar replacement.....btu fro 150 for the chrome trim and the bottom grille chrome bit is a fairly nice price :thumbsup:
Can I ask where you got it done? I'm around the chatswood area...
So you are expecting the paint to come off later?
Coz its on the chrome surface?
My euro is blue too!! hehe
james, i always thought ur euro was graphite? hmm maybe i was wrongQuote:
Originally Posted by leungie
apparently if u paint over a chrome bit, it will flake, but thats the whole point of primer isnt it? to resist paint from flaking? so i dunno.....i dont think it will flake anytime soon.....will probably be good for at least a few years....
try panelbeaters at silverwater prestige.....i hear theyre really good