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I ve just installed the bpipe, just wanna share with people that i m really really surprised that bpipe would make such huge improvement to the response of the car. All revs improvement is huge especially to the low end. I thought that the extra size compared to the the oem one wouldnt make that much of a difference but i am wrong. For those who only has the muffler, adding the bpipe would surprise u..... :D :thumbsup:
xforce bpipe?
wat exhuast have u got?
xforce
all xforce..... may be the header contributes as well... but boy the difference is well noticeable..... more power....
cool nice to hear!
4-1 or 4-2-1?
for the price, i cant find any better is my review on Xforce bpipe as quality is better than custom work and cost a lot cheaper.
can u tell us how much for the xforce bpipe pls
$2XX max if u have one ppl share the muffler with u
Zimp13, are you using the xforce rear muffler as well? im interested in getting just the rear muffler (xforce big barrel type) only, would it fit perfectly onto the stock bpipe without any cutting/welding? :confused:
danny's jazz goes pretty quick
my 1st gear can't even catch up to his 1st gear :(
u sure?
i must say, its very impressive too :thumbsup: :rolleyes:
yes i am using xforce rear muffler as well... the muffler would fit perfectly on the stock bpipe, no cutting and welding.... thats wat i had before... problem is xforce doesnt sell the bpipe and muffler separately.... u need to get some one that willing to get the bpipe from u... but i strongly recommend to use both...... by the way, if u need xforce stuff, pm me as i sell them.... :)Quote:
Originally Posted by devil
i believe its 4-2-1 but it looks like 4-1 as well.....Quote:
Originally Posted by D16Y
http://img48.echo.cx/img48/488/header4el.jpg
xforce dun sell them separately.... must get as one with the muffler..... :DQuote:
Originally Posted by spoon fit
heheheh.... not as quik as sunny car lar... jdm man..... granny XR20 also lose wor..... gagaggagaga ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by asiansquad
Ok, thats IT! I no longer understand any of what you guys talk about in these forums... :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Zimp13
:D
- Andrew
sorry andrew... heheh.... cos sunny raced with an xr8 or xr6 (cant remember) before and he won... so i said the driver must be a grannie.... hahahhaQuote:
Originally Posted by Andys
Ahh, ok. You know the jazz can win against a non-turbo XR6, those things weigh like 1700kg, not including granny.. Bur XR6T or XR8 is a different matter!Quote:
Originally Posted by Zimp13
- Andrew
we got a BA at work and there is really no difference with XR6 or XT and with g-tech it does 7.89-8.12 secs 0-100km/h and quarter 15.78 is best ive gotten but this thing does eat old 5l SS(stock ones) easily, mini cooper S, straightline the ba starts pulling away above speeds of 100Quote:
Originally Posted by Andys
ok...then how about the bpipe fitting into a 2005 jazz vti? any fitting problems/difficulties? coz i think i read somewhere about the xforce cat sensor doesnt fit well or something.... :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Zimp13
zimp13, please PM me the price for bpipe + big barrel muffler set. thanks. :D
the cat sensor doesn't go onto the bpipe
goes on the downpipe...just make sure u don't put the downpipe that came with the header into your car because it has no cat and u'll get a malfunction indicator lamp on
:confused: err...sorry abit confused. so, the bpipe + muffler is a catback system yeah? and it has nothing to do with the cat sensor? thanks.... :o :DQuote:
Originally Posted by asiansquad
the cat is located on the downpipe
and the sensors are there
zimp, so the bpiple and muffler come together... how much r they?? pm me please =)
and wat other mod u got in ur exhaust system??
anyone got pictures of the xforce catback system (bpipe + muffler)?? the pics the their website is abit small, cant really see how it all looks like...
jazzle u in melb??
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y25...ll_Exhaust.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by devil
ok thanks... ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by asiansquad
Headers would be good...Quote:
Originally Posted by Jazzle
Just get the whole set... :thumbsup:
Good stuff....
I'm still deciding what to do on the header front....remour has it that x-force may be working on a proper 4-2-1 design manfild something more a long the lines of the DC5 style.....I'll have to find out about that.
Did you end up getting a cat fited to the system Zimp??
I don't see any cat there, and what about the sensors.Quote:
Originally Posted by asiansquad
no i didnt..... no after market hi flow cat is small enough to fit......Quote:
Originally Posted by Jus-10
How much for the whole set like that??? start kinda being interested nowQuote:
Originally Posted by asiansquad
Zimp13, do you think you can get a deal which is only Bpipe without the muffler?Quote:
Originally Posted by Zimp13
i cant.... recently i managed to get some one to share with me... meaning that he gets the muffler and i get the bpipe... thats y i put my bpipe for sale in the forum.... no one was interested so i put on my car and try it out.... at first i thought not much difference at all, but i was so surprised of the gain through the bpipe... it improves the performance at the whole range not just low end... the reason y i m selling the bpipe after getting it (took me very long to manage to get a buyer for the muffler) is i am going back next month... but now i am keepin the bpipe on the car as the car will not be sold yet for the time being.... only way is for u to get a buyer for the muffler.... ohhhh there is also a guy who wanna the muffler as well the other day... if u interested i can give u his username as he wans the muffler only.... or anyone else interested..... :)Quote:
Originally Posted by bagaichiban
I want I want ... :thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by Zimp13
I just hope you don't get caught without a cat before you go.....now that would be a nice farewell present!
he has the stock cat but not the high flow catQuote:
Originally Posted by Jus-10
my setup is xforce header + oem downpipe + xforce bpipe + xforce muffler
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Originally Posted by Zimp13
good! :thumbsup: x-man
danny has a fetish for xforce products ;)
haha
i m poor mar... cant afford the jap ones...
so anyone wan the bpipe??? cos there is guy that only wans the muffler..... :D
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Originally Posted by Zimp13
This mean you have no cat in your car
Zimp13 has the original Cat I think..Quote:
Originally Posted by kimo
go hiflow cat
u will feel extra power as stock downpipe limit a lot
original cat is located on the downpipeQuote:
Originally Posted by kimo
Sorry my bad, I misread.....you can easily get a custom bit made up with a hi-flow cat
What about the Spoon B-pipe? Worth the money?
I reckon the best so far would be the Spoon Bpipe... If money is no object. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by strepto
hehehe... spoon......... expensive... but of cos good.....Quote:
Originally Posted by strepto
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Originally Posted by Zimp13
So dude you didn't answer do you have the stock cat, as the picture of the X-Force doesn't show any cat.
oem downpipe = the stock cat is attached to the oem downpipe.
to answer your question, yes i am using stock catalic converter which is attached to the stock downpipe....
i got the fujitsubo bpipe + muffler...getting it installed today..will tell you guys if it's better than danny's xforce bpipe + muffler :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Zimp13
wow, fujitsubo :thumbsup: how much? any pics? post some for us to see :DQuote:
Originally Posted by asiansquad
got it @ a good price ;)
will post pics up after installing..still waiting for friend to install...should hve it done in a few hours :D
I wont deny that Spoon is fairly good quality, but even they have had some serious issues with their b-pipe. Remember the VTi and ITR B-Pipe? Raaaaattle!
once again. Just because it's spoon, doesn't mean they don't make any errors :)
Id love to see some pics of your exhaust system. Are there testpipes avaiable for the Jazz?
i'm still waiting to have it installed =\
how to compare??? heheh..... y dun compare with other ppl HKS, Vision and Spoon....... u should compare $2 orange with other $2 orange.... not $2 orange with $1.... anyway, i ll still accept the challenge.... heheheh....Quote:
Originally Posted by asiansquad
who knows??
ur xforce might end up sounding better than my fujitsubo :p
same-o same-o then... u can say that abt fujisutbo exhaust as well, not only spoon..... hiakhiakhiak.... ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by asiansquad
haha will let u know after tonightQuote:
Originally Posted by Zimp13
shouldnt say MY xforce, should just say my car....... hehehehQuote:
Originally Posted by asiansquad
hahaha
same thing :D
look... all are good lar.... HKS, Vision, Spoon, Mugen, Fujisutbo, Xforce.... all depends on preference and budget.... no one exhaust is way much better than another (refers to most branded exhaust) cos they all work the same way really.....
fuji will not sound as nice as xforce for sure
they are quite exhuast
true that
I can only speak for myself, but sound is a secondary objective. For me its about the performance, and lets face it, the catback isnt where the ponies lie. The HP gain and throttle response lies in the intake and the header - to a certain degree the cat.
IMHO the money - from a tuninggeeks POV - should be spent on the intake and the header. Sadly, the selection for the GDx is small yet, only Spoon and mugen so far. Im not too impressed with the gains from them either, but then again, its small engines, so what little there is to gain... right? Anyways - the important thing for any exhaust system on a NA'ed 4banger is resonance, explained here, is the most important thing. Not only for performance, but also for sound. The better the resonation, the easier for the exhaust to exit the engine, and the smoother the sound. You know how cheap exhausts sound raspy/ricey? Thats beacuse they dont resonate the exhaust system for the car its made for :)
so how would we know whether the resonance of the muffler is good or not???? for example between spoon and hks... just as an example...Quote:
Originally Posted by strepto
What Fuji did you get asian? The powergetter?
Actually the Fuji prices are pretty damn good...very good infact!
The single best system getting around is mine! Full custom stainless, virtually no resonance, quiet (and legal), and it isn't a huge fart-cannon with a tip the size of a drain pipe....but then my requirements meant I couldn't buy something off the shelf.
Sound is a personal thing...I prefer to keep it quiet and not draw attention to myself
;)
fuji prices are good... how much are they????Quote:
Originally Posted by Jus-10
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Originally Posted by Zimp13
spoon one lighter than HKS (for jazz muffler)
$650 cat backQuote:
Originally Posted by Zimp13
Go look on their site man...you will be surprised as to how affordable the Powergetter is!
It lists for 56,000yen (that's without tax)...Tell me where you can get another Jap brand for that price! Iwas going to get it but it hung down too low for my liking
really??? where to get???Quote:
Originally Posted by spoon fit
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Originally Posted by Jus-10
u mean any jap brand cat back for jazz under 56,000 yen?
hung 2 low??? cant just get another rubber so it can be hung higher???Quote:
Originally Posted by Jus-10
just installed the fujitsubo powergetter catback...sounds pretty good..very quiet :D
one problem is one of the hooks is different to the stock one and can't fit onto the car..need to make another hook for it =\
overall it is reallly good :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:
will post pics up tomorrow