X-Force Twin Loop Review - Sound Clips inc :D

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28-08-2005, 12:30 PM
vtecchie

X-Force Twin Loop Review - Sound Clips inc :D

This is a product review of the X-Force Twin Loop S10 muffler, as supplied by egSi...

http://storage.msn.com/x1pxOYwqu4SjF...ioU-YiJVsnkpEN

Well, for God knows how long I have been in pursuit of changing the muffler on my car, 97 Civic VTi coupe. There were so many complications (mostly insurance related) but I am finally happy :D

I wanted a nice deep purr, not a loud farty buzz, and when I heard about the XFTL I knew that was what I wanted. Thanks to Trav for helping me out with my questions months in advance of the purchase and for the speedy transaction once I finally came around to buying one. He is great to do business with, but you already knew that :p

So that I could keep my old system intact, I got a spare stock muffler (thanks nobbs:wave: ) so the stock over-axle pipe could be used to weld the XFTL onto. After speaking to a couple of exhaust places and receiving a rude and dishonest response to my wishes of sticking a 2.5" inlet muffler onto stock 1.75" pipe, I was delighted with the guys at Kirrawee Mufflers when they said "Yeah no problem...$60....bring it back in an hour".

So I went for a cruise, came back and they were done inside half an hour. In fact I was so impressed with their honest, no-bull service that when I realised they charged me 60 cents by mistake I took the $60 the next day.

I had a grin on my face the whole way home, I couldnt stop saying to my mate "Its just how I wanted!!"

So here are the results; XFTL muffler 2.5" straight onto stock system.

BEFORE - http://www.geocities.com/session_51/stockoutside.wav (RC,STA)

AFTER - http://www.geocities.com/session_51/twinloopoutside.wav (RC,STA)

These clips were taken with a computer microphone from around 2m behind the car.

While you are driving, you can hear a small difference when you are on throttle (throaty grrrrr), when no throttle is applied it hardly sounds different and when you back off the gas it gives a nice VVVVvvvvmmmm. Of course, when you are vteccing it the engine is louder than the muffler.

And that, as they say, is that!

Thanks to
Alex :thumbsup:
Trav :thumbsup:
Kirrawee Mufflers :thumbsup:
29-08-2005, 07:31 AM
egSi

oooooh!! how cools is this!!

sweet as man, post some pics of it on ur car! :thumbsup: :D
29-08-2005, 08:04 AM
Ferrari

Geocities wont let me listen to the clips damnit !!! I wanna hear it, good write up though, Im thinking of getting a twin loop myself.
29-08-2005, 02:57 PM
vtecchie

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ferrari

Geocities wont let me listen to the clips damnit !!! I wanna hear it, good write up though, Im thinking of getting a twin loop myself.

If you Save Target As it should work, I tested it on another computer. It won't let you just click on it and listen you have to download the file.

Heres some piccies:
http://storage.msn.com/x1pxOYwqu4SjF...CtKIIYtnvHHEpA

http://storage.msn.com/x1pxOYwqu4SjF...RisWS0AtzMnh4w
29-08-2005, 03:00 PM
bubblecivic

Are all the outlet diameter the same??

Looks very good on your civic man, doesn't look too big and I'm sure it sounds way better then them cannons you see!
29-08-2005, 03:04 PM
vtecchie

Quote:

Originally Posted by bubblecivic

Are all the outlet diameter the same??

Looks very good on your civic man, doesn't look too big and I'm sure it sounds way better then them cannons you see!

Thanks mate, I'm pretty sure all the outlets are the same, but you'd have to ask egSi to be sure
29-08-2005, 03:14 PM
egSi

of coarse it sounds good haha :p

seriously, inlets: 2.25 + 2.5 + 3"

good stuff guys, thanks for the review man. :thumbsup:

best muffler on the market imo. :)
29-08-2005, 05:40 PM
mrwillz

link is still dead.
29-08-2005, 05:48 PM
Ferrari

yep, I have tried on 3 computers, the link is not working
29-08-2005, 06:43 PM
s3ph

work fine here!
29-08-2005, 07:28 PM
vtecchie

Hmmm thats strange...

Maybe if a mod could host it on the ozhonda webspace it would work for everyone.
29-08-2005, 08:41 PM
tegboy

Works for me
29-08-2005, 09:55 PM
Duesta

geocities has a bandwidth limit. That's probably why some ppl can access it and some can't... i think geocities limit them by the hour or something, but i know they limit bandwidth on webspace
29-08-2005, 11:31 PM
SiR

Nice review man!! Nice sound clips too - a very noticeable diff. and improvement between before and after! :thumbsup:
30-08-2005, 01:17 AM
preludacris

soz whats the muffler tip diameter on urs?
30-08-2005, 03:39 PM
vtecchie

The very end of the tip is 3 inches.As you can see from the pic it comes out of the muffler a bit smaller (prob 2.5)and then expands to 3.
30-08-2005, 10:52 PM
dundas

ITS NOT WORKING .. stop teasing us :D
31-08-2005, 10:57 AM
Denchy

how did you manage to attached the 2.5 to the 1.75? i am looking at doing the same
31-08-2005, 12:03 PM
Limbo

Mate i've got one from EgSi also.That's exactly the same experience i've had with these mufflers.
I've had the same satisfaction. Only i have a full exhaust system 4-1 headers , hi-flow cat, 2 1/4 mandrel bent.

This is the perfect muffler if you want noise only when you hit it hard.
Great for the sleeper look and keeping away nasty cops.

Thanks again EgSi

Quote:

Originally Posted by vtecchie

This is a product review of the X-Force Twin Loop S10 muffler, as supplied by egSi...

Well, for God knows how long I have been in pursuit of changing the muffler on my car, 97 Civic VTi coupe. There were so many complications (mostly insurance related) but I am finally happy :D

I wanted a nice deep purr, not a loud farty buzz, and when I heard about the XFTL I knew that was what I wanted. Thanks to Trav for helping me out with my questions months in advance of the purchase and for the speedy transaction once I finally came around to buying one. He is great to do business with, but you already knew that :p

So that I could keep my old system intact, I got a spare stock muffler (thanks nobbs:wave: ) so the stock over-axle pipe could be used to weld the XFTL onto. After speaking to a couple of exhaust places and receiving a rude and dishonest response to my wishes of sticking a 2.5" inlet muffler onto stock 1.75" pipe, I was delighted with the guys at Kirrawee Mufflers when they said "Yeah no problem...$60....bring it back in an hour".

So I went for a cruise, came back and they were done inside half an hour. In fact I was so impressed with their honest, no-bull service that when I realised they charged me 60 cents by mistake I took the $60 the next day.

I had a grin on my face the whole way home, I couldnt stop saying to my mate "Its just how I wanted!!"

So here are the results; XFTL muffler 2.5" straight onto stock system.

BEFORE - http://www.geocities.com/session_51/stockoutside.wav (RC,STA)

AFTER - http://www.geocities.com/session_51/twinloopoutside.wav (RC,STA)

These clips were taken with a computer microphone from around 2m behind the car.

While you are driving, you can hear a small difference when you are on throttle (throaty grrrrr), when no throttle is applied it hardly sounds different and when you back off the gas it gives a nice VVVVvvvvmmmm. Of course, when you are vteccing it the engine is louder than the muffler.

And that, as they say, is that!

Thanks to
Alex :thumbsup:
Trav :thumbsup:
Kirrawee Mufflers :thumbsup:
31-08-2005, 12:07 PM
grnlude

I can't get the clip. Could some one else host it somewhere else as well.PLZ :( :(
31-08-2005, 01:40 PM
vtecchie

Quote:

Originally Posted by Denchy

how did you manage to attached the 2.5 to the 1.75? i am looking at doing the same

They just welded in an intermediate step (of about 2" pipe)

The length of the muffler is such that if welded straight onto the stock pipe it would not be long enough to reach the rear of the car anyway, so they just welded the muffler to about 10cm of new pipe (2.5">new bit>1.75") and then attached that to the stock pipe.

If you go to a shop and they won't do that, and want to charge you to upgrade all your piping larger, walk outta there ;)
31-08-2005, 01:43 PM
TKO

The links will work. You can right click on the link then select save as, and save it to you computer. After the download finish you can listen to the clip.

I have also bought the twin-loop from egSI, And i like the sound not too loud, and still can enjoy my music. Here some picture of my.

http://img389.imageshack.us/img389/5...00111hx.th.jpg

http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/7...copy9lh.th.jpg
31-08-2005, 03:28 PM
egSi

looks good man ;)
31-08-2005, 06:03 PM
dundas

ok it seems like its working now.. maybe not work late @ night.. shrugs***
31-08-2005, 07:54 PM
jdmlvn

not wrkin..it said currently down for an hour
01-09-2005, 09:54 AM
egads

dont think geocities like direct linking. try this:

left click

before
http://www.geocities.com/session_51/stockoutside.wav?

after
http://www.geocities.com/session_51/...opoutside.wav?
07-09-2005, 07:51 PM
Elmo

Whether I left click, or right click and save, still won't work for me! :confused:
11-09-2005, 06:47 PM
grnlude

I got one of these on my BB6 Prelude VTi-R.

Awsome sound , Not too loud and not to quite. :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
11-09-2005, 07:17 PM
j0nbubz

hey great review - im very interested in getting a XFTL for my dc5 .. dam those clips dont work!! =( i tried save as.. says the file format cant play
20-09-2005, 12:15 AM
DHOCHKG

me either
was interested to get one on my Vti
but can someone fix up the link..plz..!
that is great review lol
20-09-2005, 09:21 AM
egads

to those who cant get the link to work, pm me your email address and ill send it through. about 4.5mb total.

edit - old thread yo, no longer have the sound clips.
20-09-2005, 09:25 AM
vtecchie

Thanks egads, geocities was the only place i could upload them, the image hosting places would only accept jpg's etc
23-09-2005, 06:32 PM
Captiva_Blue

How loud is this muffler? Does it comein under the 96db limit for NSW registered cars?
25-02-2006, 03:42 PM
reckless

Nice review man! After reading up and checking out these sound clips of the XFTL, I might end getting a similar setup! :thumbsup:
25-02-2006, 04:14 PM
JasonGilholme

So thats just the muffler on the back of the standard system is it???
19-05-2006, 06:51 PM
dsp26

does someone still have a working copy/linky of the sound files... i've been meaning to hear what it sounds like for ages... pelase??
19-05-2006, 10:51 PM
Limbo

I am pretty sure you will come under the 96db cos it is more quiet than my car with 2 reasonators and a straight thru muffler.
I'd say about 1 1/2 time the loudness of the stock honda ek4 system.
When vtec kicks in its still has a nice growl to it. And when you cruise its quiet. No droning or irritation (trust me i change my exhaust 4 times just to get the sound down!)
07-09-2006, 10:47 PM
Bleemv1

Hey guys, not sure if this post is still going but how much is the Xforce? Any other exhaust tips?
15-11-2006, 10:20 AM
dtrang

can somone with clips of the the XFTL host it on sendspace or something like taht and link it on here thanks
08-08-2007, 08:49 PM
94dc2tegz

Yes I agree!
I'm new to this place and I just got a VTiR which i've been thinking of adding the exhaust for a while now. After reading this thread ( yea it's pretty old now) I'd pretty much made up my mind as this is exactly what ( I imagine) I want! Although it'd be great if we could get the link again and hear that sound. So if anyone could contribute??? Would b great. :)
09-08-2007, 12:58 AM
hai

nice sound

Wow big sound diffrence nice sound too btw topstuff :thumbsup:
17-09-2007, 01:07 PM
94dc2tegz

I know this is an old topic and don't know if my point has been raised b4 but why is there no love for this brand of the twinloop in the US. Their forums basically hate it while OH members have nothing but praise (considering that it's lower end).

Point is that the US forums say that the 'obx' branded twin loop is cheap and will fall apart internally after a few months and eventually sound like a mega fart. Is this tru? Should i invest into a mugen twinloop?