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Hey guys,
i would just like to know who would be the better car to have the Jazz or the Colt. i havent driven them as of yet but would like to get some response from those who have..
as in Mivec Vs Vtec and also the base models vs each other thanks
thanks guys!
The colt has lotsa features but its so not very aesthetically pleasing imo. Looks like a A-class wonnabe.
Jazz is a all-rounder. Im happy with it, though id prefer something a bit faster...
Had an '05 Jazz 1.3 auto loan car for 2 days and was impressed with it overall. My only gripe is all round visibility (and huge drop in power) not as good as my DC2, more pillars from 2 more doors and larger rear headrests interrupt the view a little, but that's being picky. Personally I'd go for the 1.5 vti-s manual if I bought one.
such a question on a honda forum :wave:
i own a mitsubishi mirage,
i wouldnt consider my answer biased,...
i will say jazz is better.
however im getting good vibes with the new toyota yaris.
Wait for the Colt Turbo that is supposed to come out. But for reliability and space, I'd go for Jazz.
i find the colt looks to be more of a euro compact car...tall and skinny..i dont like it though..never been a big fan of mitsubishi entry level cars ever since i owned a lancer..
i own a jazz atm..its great...fun to push around..comfy inside and great for those who wanna save on petrol
if the colt came out in manual it'd be a hoot to drive, but as is, the jazz is better without consideration of anything else due to a manual gearbox in my books
colt and A class share the same chassis, hence they look very similarQuote:
Originally Posted by Miss Chanel
And i had the same problem.The dealer which i took the car had and colt and jazz,and he told me that jazz is the best in his category.He is a friend of mine and he has not any reason to sell me the jazz.It is the best in all categories
are u sure?!? i've never heard of it before? interesting bit of info that... cos i would expect mercedes chassiis to be bloody excellentQuote:
Originally Posted by Maxx
Colt and Smart (ForFour) shares the same chassic. And Smart belongs to Merc if i'm not wrong.
Although Colt put out a slight lower horsepower, but it doesn't also apply to its cornering ability.
IMO without test driving the Colt: (Not trying to be biased because I own a Jazz) though, the colt looks really cute and cheaper than Jazz....
Jazz got more grunt.
Jazz got more space
Jazz is more fuel efficient.
Jazz got better resale value
Jazz is a Honda.
I was looking for a second car (preferbly not Jazz as I already have one) and did all the comparison... and Colt is not in my list...
both owned by daimlerchryslerQuote:
Originally Posted by lovesil
There's best motoring episode that featured a small car racing category.
6 small hatches were raced on tsukuba circuit. They were: Swift Sport, Colt ralliart, Fit 1.5S (close to jazz vtis), Lupo GTi, Citroen C2 and Swift Sport S1.
Battle result was:
1st Swift S1
2nd Lupo Gti
3rd Swift Sport
4th Fit 1.5S
5th C2
6th Colt Ralliart (Turbo)
Based on this result i would say Jazz is a more balanced car than Colt. The Colt Ralliart was faster than C2 on the straightaway but on corners, it's very poor. The CVT on the Colt is probably not the best either since at the beginning of the race, the driver (Kinoshita) was experiencing difficulty shifting up and it lacked response.
More over, the guys that designed the A class were also the designers for the new mitsubishi colt. The colt turbo is infact already out but no signs of mitsubishi bringing them in. WOuld love to try that turbo out if it came. As for the Yaris, the only thing i dun like about Toyota Australia is that they fitted the same old engine from the previous generation to the new Yaris. And also it's body kit package, if you have seen the Japanese version, you'll be amazed how blunt the Australian one look like. All in all still all for jazz mate.... Looks amazing, drives amazing...
what issue of the best motoring is that? If you don't mind me telling.. I want to see that video..
Might sound a bit stupid.. what's the different between Suzuki S1 and Sports..
I know the Suzuki Swift Sport is the one below (which is due to be release in Australia next year.. ) but have no idea what is S1.. HEHEHE!!
http://www.suzuki.co.jp/swiftsport/image/noflash.jpg
I know Lupo is actually Polo here..
The Australian Yaris looks the same as the Japanese Vitz. Jazz's look is getting dated. I like the space and practicality as well as the ability of the CVT tranny to keep it at peak power RPM by using S mode, but it does look oldish.
i remember reading somewhere that there might be a suzuki swift with the 1.8l out of the ignis sports, 86kw or something.
What im looking forward to is the polo gti coming out next year with a price of around 26,000 + onroads i think, this got the previous model golf gti's 1.8l turbo 110kw engine, this engine got heaps of aftermarket tuning parts
That's right. If I am correct, the engine is straight out of a Audi A4 1.8T hence the aftermarket world expands.Quote:
Originally Posted by muli
It's not the international edition. This episode is straight from Japan.Quote:
Originally Posted by ahcash
It's dated March 2005.
http://storage.msn.com/x1pqP5noGPWAA...xDwlLDuhkF3W0Q
I think the S1 is turbocharged.
the turbo colt is ocming in 2006 to australiaQuote:
Originally Posted by jklo
i tried the 1.3 yaris today and thought it was ok for a little 1.3ltr engine, im looking for a simple cheap and reliable little car. want it to be able to store crap in the boot. just kinda choosing from Jazz, Yaris and Colt... Honda dealers arnt that friendly as to offering test drive so i went to toyota today..... hmmmm
Quote:
Originally Posted by SiReal
yep the audi's got the VW engine as well.
colt looks ok from the front.... sides and back end are ugh lee!!
then look inside...... fisher price design and looks, its horrible in there!
Jazz hands down!
Swift is a great car too, and some fuggtards on a tv show on the weekend rated jazz last in the practicality???????? and swift beat it????? swifts folding rear seats SUCK!!!
ive loaded my jazz with a new washing machine in the box, lets see a swift do that!
i guess its just the fact that a jazz is a older model so its not as practical anymore as stupid as it sounds
Honestly the swift is nowhere near as practical as the Jazz.
When i sat in the swift during the Motor Show, i was cramped up in the rear seats and i'm not a big fellow either. Even if the front seats were pushed forward further, it didn't feel much better.
Interior, i think Jazz beats it hands down too. However, the Swift is much cheaper and we can't ask for it too much.
nah dont compare swift with jazz... i sat in it once.. the building quality, the noise, everything is bad comparing to the jazz... but it looks good though and price is lower...
dang...if the road noise is unbearable enough as it is in the jazz..and its even louder in a swift...the jazz has me sold
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jazzle
Swift is not that bad considering the money you pay... It probably cost the same as the 1.3 Jazz...
The ride is good .. and I reckon it handles better than the Jazz... no doubt the quality and workmenship is not as good as the Jazz.. You get what you pay for... :D :D
Swift is NOWHERE better in all aspects beside the price. A swift still a swift unless u talking about the top model Gti
In which case it is still a Swift....Quote:
Originally Posted by TypeG
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Originally Posted by Jus-10
Everyone I think love there Jazz, is a pretty good car but many new competitors are coming with better thing. Can't wait until the 2007 model Jazz is out. Hope they have a 3 door in there range. :cool:
Just because we own a Jazz doesn't mean we should wear colored glasses to look at the Swift.. You are quite wrong.. Swift is better than the Jazz in a few aspects.. Not only Honda knows how to make good cars.. others are starting to make good cars...Quote:
Originally Posted by TypeG
There must be a reason why it got rated 16 out of 20 and won 2 giant small cars tests.. Don't tell me Jazz looses because others are cheap and Jazz is more expensive.. c'mon guys..
What do you mean by a swift is still a swift, other ppl can say .. a Jazz is still a Jazz.. :D :D
I am not being bias. I love both.. Both got their own weakness and strength...
darn tootinQuote:
Originally Posted by **Ghost**
huh?Quote:
Originally Posted by muli
the vw site says its availiable now...
http://www.volkswagen.com.au/2004/fl...enuopen=Diesel
sorry my bad, someone just told me that delivery is atleast till next year if buying one not sure if any truth behind thisQuote:
Originally Posted by MoDCoN
This is true about the Colt Ralliart. But that's really a test mule version. The real thing is here in australia finally. Named Colt Ralliart Version R in Japan. Although its interior dash isn't as nice as a Jazz, but it will beat the shit out of all the small car on the market and even Polo GTI. Stock to stock, Colt Ralliart Version R is faster than the POLO GTI.Quote:
Originally Posted by Poeter
For how much $ ???
wat about golf r32?
golf r32 wouldnt be an ideal small car with its 3.2 litre engine. .
lupo gti = polo gti. the comparo is of 'light' sports... oh and btw lovesil, the polo gti isnt really all that fast, its less than a second better than my accord 0-100 and its much lighter and turbo :O shood be interesting to c the hi-po verion of the colt neway...
jazz owns colt hands down..
HOWEVER, i rkn suzuki swift sport is the one to watch out for @ only 26k
even the 1.5 is on par with performance compared to the jazz, its not much slower than a jazz.Quote:
Originally Posted by wtf2k6
it'll get high to mid 7's and with a chip 155kw, remember its the old golf gti engine so its a modifiers heaven but very costly if you stick to german parts. but dont know why golf aus dont bring in the cup version which makes just over 130kwQuote:
Originally Posted by Vinnie
Golf R32 uses a VR6, which is MUCH lighter than a V6. I would say it is the ideal small car, rivalling with the 130i M-sport.Quote:
Originally Posted by z3lda
the golf vr6 had the 2.8l engine which pumped out 128kw, these are a great conversion into a seat ibiza gti.Quote:
Originally Posted by aaronng
the current model r32 is 184kw.
For 128kW, there are many other engines that produce more power and torque while being lighter than the 2.8L 12 valve VR6. But the latest 24 valve VR6 is tops! USA gets a 3.6L version pushing 208kW.Quote:
Originally Posted by muli
In the their R32?Quote:
Originally Posted by aaronng
Nah, the 3.6L VR6 is only used in the Passat.Quote:
Originally Posted by SPEEDCORE
God was gonna say BS! The R36 rumours for the Mk VI are .....well .. just rumours atm! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by aaronng
In my opinion.........Jazz beats Colt, Swift lose to Mazda 2, Yaris beats Barina, Swift beat Accent, Yaris beat Swift, Mazda 2 beat Yaris, Jazz beat Accent, Mazda 2 lose to Jazz. Swift beat Focus, Focus beat Accent, Jazz beat Yaris..................
Ok.... confused?
then, Jazz first, Mazda 2 second, Yaris 3rd, Colt 4th, Swift 5th, Baring 6th, Focus 7th, Accent 8th..........
shit these are small toy cars, who cares which one goes faster or has the bigger engine. Its like arguing which man has bigger ****. Speed isnt why you buy these.
As long as it looks cute, is cheap to look after and is practical. Its better. Thus Jazz is much better plus its a Honda. The Colt is a monstrocity.
Vitz>Jazz>>>>>the rest
Please do not troll the forums - aaronng
value for money the jazz for sure isnt, i mean the old jap made vtis was 26,490 or similar on the road, last month in brissie they were selling polo gti's for 27,000 drive away.
Yaris is the most sold little car, jazz is like half way down the list with only a few thousand sales
jazz is better than the VW and colt and any other model in its class for that matter
i just took an auto Vti for a replacement car while the civic was in serivice
1.id say it has the best auto gearbox ever made in a small car
2.it has a 7speed auto mode with paddle shift on the steering wheel
3.clearly defined VTEC
4.VERY spacious, 5 ppl comfortably
5.ABSOLUTLEY beautiful view all round
6.The easiest car to park, u can put it in the smallest, tightest places
7.looks great
8.heeps of storage space
9.EXCELLENT fuel economy
10.lots of torque low down, easy for slow manuvering
11.if u get a manual, the car is almost perfect in everyway
12.I love it this much and i dont even have one, lol
Let's keep the Jazz ownership exclusive! :pQuote:
Originally Posted by muli
We don't want the Jazz too common otherwise end up like a shopping trolley car which it clearly is not.....
And Yaris... -edited out spitting-aaronng on their owners hehehe
Lol, Honda should release a Jazz Type R to compete with the Colt ralliart version R.
But nah, i guess that's way too unrealistic since Honda now seems to be going off the sports stage.
The new Colt Ralliart is not a bad car, great handling and power. Dont like the price tag lol :D
Jazz is already coming to EOL soon
new model will come in 2008
High price tag is maybe due to the RECAROs
holden barina is the worst its a friggen daewoo for crying out loud!!! hahaha
Best motoring Oct 2006, rated the Suzuki Swift Sports higher than both the Jazz and Ralliart Colt. Between the Jazz and Colt, one preferred the Jazz and the other the Jazz. I'm up to the part where they race them on Tsukuba. Will report the results after watching.
LOL, even the Daihatsu Boon is faster than the Jazz......... And the Boon is able to drift a bit more being 4WD. Jazz is in last place now. Colt is 1st, Boon 2nd, Swift 3rd.
Starting grid:
1) Jazz
2) Swift
3) Boon
4) Colt
Finishing:
1) Colt
2) Boon
3) Swift
4) Jazz
Overall winner based on all the drivers testing is the Suzuki Swift.
yeah i saw that video too.. colt is obviously the fastest car between the 4 and yet, the swift sport was voted as the best car..
im not sure about the prices of the cars.. but dont u think it's a bit unfair comparing swift sport (1.8L 92kw) and colt (turbo charge) to a jazz??
i would think the normal swift and colt is a more probably comparison, unless their prices are the similar.
Swift Sport 1,564,500 yen
Ralliart Colt 1,974,000 yen
Boon X4 2,047,500 yen
Jazz 1.5L 1,575,000 yen
It's the same price as the Swift Sport!
better fuel economy tho ^^
Sorry, but Swift Sport is a 1.6L high rev N/A. And i agree that Jazz shouldn't even be in the race in the first place. Swift Sport is voted by the 2 presenter drivers and not from all 4 drivers. If you look at Best Motoring Sept Version, where Tsuchiya rates all cars on the touge, Swift Sport is at the bottom of the list (No 35 or 36) and R.Colt ranked No 20 (half a rank off the latest DC5R in jap)
And looking at the Jap Price list by "aaronng", damn the Honda's expensive.
The track and touge are 2 different playing fields. Also, why shouldn't the Jazz be in the race? The VTEC version is essentially the sporty version of the 1.5L Jazz with the regular one running the 1.5L i-DSI which we don't get in Australia.Quote:
Originally Posted by lovesil
sorry to be a noob, but isn't the 1.5L Jazz in Aus a vtec??
Yes, track & touge is different, but not all that much. It's not the huge difference between a drag to track, or drift to track. Hence it's still taken into consideration on its power and handling.
In Japan, there are 3 models. The 1.3 i-DSI, 1.5 i-DSI and 1.5 VTEC. We only get the VTEC in Australia.Quote:
Originally Posted by lovesil
Fcuk, if that's the case swift sport is a good buy... if prices are similar.it's fair to compare the jazz vtec to swift sport..Quote:
Originally Posted by aaronng
just checked suzuki website.. rrp is $24000,, =)