EF8/9 Part numbers/Info/Owners Thread

Hey guys, thought i would make a thread containing part information and numbers for the imported EF8 CR-X and EF9 Civic. This is because honda is not too helpful when trying to find specific parts because they dont have these cars on record etc. Also to promote discussion of these models.

If you have part numbers or other info, please post them and i will add that info to this post.


PART DESCRIPTION | PART NUMBER
Engine Oil- Standard Honda oil FEO 10w-30w | B1766
Oil filter- Standard Honda oil filter | 15400PLC004
Sump plug washer - Standard honda washer | 94109-14000
Radiator Coolant - Honda radiator coolant type 2 | B1801
Gearbox fluid - MTF Plus gearbox fluid 75-80w | B1766

Thermostat - From b16a2? | 19301-p08-316 (needs confirmation, there are multiple themostats for b16a2)
Sump/oil pan gasket - From b16a2 | 11251-P30-004
Fuel filter - From 90 model concerto? | 16010-SH3-K51 (needs confirmation)




WORKSHOP MANUAL INFORMATION
CR-X workshop manual can be accessed from www.honda.co.uk by going to the owners section. It also containts a vtec supplement which is relevant to EF8's and therefore EF9's. Also the 98 model integra manual may contain other useful information relating to bseries engines.

Are you able to cook up a list of what they came standard with and what was optional? What Australian delivered Hondas also came with a b16a1?

I guess i could as well as others.. This thread could get quite detailed.

The thing is though, no australian model came with a b16a (b16a1). They are all A2's. Hence it is difficult to know what part is needed because some are from b16a2's some b18a's even some other parts share with d series cars. So it would be good to have a reference. But anyway, go start a thread in the intro's/gallery about your car :p

here are some aftermarket equivalents:
B16A Thermostat ~ Tridon Equivalent is TT242-170 which is the same as Honda one listed above.
Oil Filter ~ Ryco, Cooper etc is a Z79a
Yes, the fuel filter listed above is also correct

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Originally Posted by gnx1987

Are you able to cook up a list of what they came standard with and what was optional? What Australian delivered Hondas also came with a b16a1?

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No AUDM Hondas came with b16a1, europe and jap only afaik

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Originally Posted by Dxs

But anyway, go start a thread in the intro's/gallery about your car :p

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For any particular reason? Also are there any English language shop manuals for EF8/9?

http://tech.hybridgarage.com/tech/ma...supplement.pdf

first gen b16a manual (ef9/ef8 etc etc)

tells you how to do pretty much everything (engine wise)

hope it help

(just save link as)

and

http://tech.hybridgarage.com/tech/ma...vicemanual.pdf

workshop manual for the rest of the car ;)

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Originally Posted by 90xsi

http://tech.hybridgarage.com/tech/ma...supplement.pdf

first gen b16a manual (ef9/ef8 etc etc)

tells you how to do pretty much everything (engine wise)

hope it help

(just save link as)

and

http://tech.hybridgarage.com/tech/ma...vicemanual.pdf

workshop manual for the rest of the car ;)

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Where can I get the actual book/s of this? Anyone got one and where did they get it?

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Originally Posted by gnx1987

For any particular reason? Also are there any English language shop manuals for EF8/9?

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curious..


those workshop manuals are pretty good, it is a bit vague when it comes to areas of the engine so sometimes a manual from a different b series car is needed.. i would say it would be extremely hard to find a paper/hard copy..... got a fast printer?

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Originally Posted by Dxs

curious..


those workshop manuals are pretty good, it is a bit vague when it comes to areas of the engine so sometimes a manual from a different b series car is needed.. i would say it would be extremely hard to find a paper/hard copy..... got a fast printer?

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Speaking of which, where's the speed sensor? Cause I can't see where it is looking from the top and I haven't bothered looking underneath yet because I'd have to do some car shuffling to jack the car up. Thanks

And I'll take up that request for the intro.

the vehicle speed sensor (VSS) is located on the top..
i tried to take a pic of it but there is too many pipes in the way + it's too early :thumbdwn:

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/...f/f9e74b82.jpg
i believe that maybe a picture of a b16a vss though /\

the sensor is a cable one opposed to an electric one

Is that picture from a EE8/9 (European)? The EF8 (Japanese) has the VSS in the gearbox whereas the European model retains the the VSS in the cluster as on Australian models.

Also pictured is the variable speed power steering which I thought was only available on Integras?

As I recall, the manuals referred to earlier are for the European models and don't include a lot of info...
for example the climate control?

cannot find link...

i am unsure of where the image is from..

can anyone confirm with a picture of their vss?

Speaking of cable speedos, I've been looking all over the firewall to see where it comes out so I can follow it,but can't find it. Also on that pic, at the bottom of it, is that the starter motor? Just an enlightenment as to why I want to change my speed sensor, every now and again the speedo wants to just drop out like it stops reading the speed. This will happen when ever it wants, a bit more often when it's cold. And the cable's not gripping cause it doesn't flick, it just drops if you get what I mean.

Have owned my EF9 for almost 6 years now and you don't need half the manual stuff - it's common sense.

Just get a new VSS from a NZ wrecker - it took me 10 minutes to replace mine.

i having the same problem with my vss. I will be driving and all of the sudden it drops to 0km sometimes it pops straight back up to speed other times it will stay down for a whil and just today it didnt come back up! How do i fix?

I've been told I have to replace the speed sensor, which judging by what I've got to get past (hoses and stuff) it looks like it's going to be a freakin nightmare

I have been having the same problem.. every now and then it just stops.. sometimes doesnt happen for a few days but annoys me when it does..

Added thread to sticky

and the suplied pic of what should be the sensor.... that shit dont exist on my car.... i got this electronic thing there going into what the cable was conected too

I havent stuffed with the vss (dont want to either ;) ).. here is a pic from the workshop manual if u dont have it already
http://i2.tinypic.com/oua1wg.jpg

also i recently used b18 studs for the exhaust manifold and a 93 CRX (gen3) exhaust mani gasket.. seems ok.. will get part numbers soon hopefully

anyone know if the timing belt and crank/timing seal from a gen 3 crx or ek vtir (audm a2 engines) can be used?
i presume so??

yes you can use them

The VSS is bolted into the top of the gearbox, from memory it's held in with two bolts. I had the same problems with my speedo. The only way to fix it is to replace the VSS, they cost $85 from hondworld in melbourne, I have a spare one that works that you can have for $50 plus postage. PM me

Only need to take out the one screw to pull out the VSS. And don't over tighten it when you do it up......it WILL crack :)

anyone got the part number for the ef9 rain guard?

hello everybody
i was thinking of buying an original ef9 civic
how much are thye worth with around 160 000kms these days with body in good condition?

Anyone know an Australian equivalent for the fuel tank sender with the low fuel light?
For example is there an Integra with the with the fuel light and similar tank sender?

I replaced my VSS with a later model one. The gearing is the same but the later model
has the plug integrated into the sensor, no wiring tail. I had to change the plug on the
loom (as I recall?).

Who's got a Y1 tranny in their EF8/9? I heard it's rare. Is this true?

Would that be the LSD box for the ef's?

qnx,
Y1 can be either LSD or non-LSD. Which one are you talking about?

i *think* Y1 is standard (which is what i have) and YS1 is the LSD version..

i would like confirmation though

http://www.ff-squad.com/tech/temp/Bgears.htm

I was told by this honda wrecker that the Y1 transmission is rare. By what he was saying he gave me the impression that he thought all y1's were LSD. But I s'pose the question is now; is the Y1 lsd rare and who's got one?

Bah.
I've never heard a wrecker say
"Shit yeah mate. We got truck loads of these...."
(cause then they can't extort large sums of cash from you on the pretense that it's the only one in existance)

They always say
[sucking air through teeth]
"Yeah mate, these are pretty rare, but I'll sell you this one here for eleventy billion dollars." <as he points down to a clapped out D15B4>
:(

Don't listen to the wreckers.

Where there is a will...

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Originally Posted by Dxs

PART DESCRIPTION | PART NUMBER
Engine Oil- Standard Honda oil FEO 10w-30w | B1766
Oil filter- Standard Honda oil filter | 15400PLC004
Sump plug washer - Standard honda washer | 94109-14000
Radiator Coolant - Honda radiator coolant type 2 | B1801
Gearbox fluid - MTF Plus gearbox fluid 75-80w | B1766

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none of these are civic/crx specific, cam use for almost all hondas (only a few exceptions)

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Originally Posted by gnx1987

I was told by this honda wrecker that the Y1 transmission is rare. By what he was saying he gave me the impression that he thought all y1's were LSD. But I s'pose the question is now; is the Y1 lsd rare and who's got one?

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sounds like something chris at hondworld would say :rolleyes:

Well it was at hondaworld the guy said it. I think he was the boss guy. And for slobber goat, I wasn't buying something for the transmission so I think he was saying it just for the point of saying it. But i know what your sayin, they do say that sorta stuff

A weird light popped up when i was warming up my ef9 in the panel beater's today. Its the light under the petrol light. looks similiar to the symbol of a Resisistor on a circuit board diagram, and squigly lines coming up from it. when i look at it reminds me of a radiator or something. Does anyone know wat this warning light is?

hehehe, sounds like your rear window demister is on... no need to panic just yet

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Originally Posted by aznpsuazn

A weird light popped up when i was warming up my ef9 in the panel beater's today. Its the light under the petrol light. looks similiar to the symbol of a Resisistor on a circuit board diagram, and squigly lines coming up from it. when i look at it reminds me of a radiator or something. Does anyone know wat this warning light is?

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Mine comes on randomly aswell, i think it's an overheating sensor on the block, it's located just under the dizzy. Unplug it and plug it back in again, it worked for me :thumbsup:

i shall try this. thanks bsracer

Just wondering what things people have got on they're ef8/9s that might not be standard options or if anyone knows what the options were. I believe climate control was an option. Anyone confirm if the following is not standard?

-electric retractable electric mirrors?
-electric windows
-electric sunroof
-rear discs

Anything I may have missed?

electric retractable mirrors - they do come on ef9s i know this for sure. so does the windows and rear discs. some also have abs which is f* expensive to repair.

Manual winders for the windows was the option on EF9s, but only on the stripped down "race off the factory floor" varient.

Electric Sunroof was an option but most seem fitted with it.
Rear disks and oversized front disks standard.
Electric folding mirrors (not just power adjustable) = incredibly rare - so rare that I can't find them in my catalogue for the EF9, the EF8 CRX lists them though.

Climate control = option
Double DIN centre console = option
sigh - must convert my scans of the EF9 and EE9 catalogs as I CBD posting the rest :P

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Originally Posted by Setanta

Manual winders for the windows was the option on EF9s, but only on the stripped down "race off the factory floor" varient.

Electric Sunroof was an option but most seem fitted with it.
Rear disks and oversized front disks standard.
Electric folding mirrors (not just power adjustable) = incredibly rare - so rare that I can't find them in my catalogue for the EF9, the EF8 CRX lists them though.

Climate control = option
Double DIN centre console = option
sigh - must convert my scans of the EF9 and EE9 catalogs as I CBD posting the rest :P

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What's the double DIN centre console? Have you got the electric retractable?

2 Stereo holes = Double DIN.

I've never seen the retractables - only once on a US ED that had located the parts and switch.

If its not to much trouble Setanta, can you scan and post up those option catalogs or point us in the direction as to where we can have a look at some?

ef8 crx stuff

the ef8 rear and front engine mounts are from the same DC2- found out when my HASPORT mounts didnt fit.

fuel filter isnt specific to the ef8.. forgot where its from tho

front brake pads are from the DA integra

ask damo at eastern honda for SiR part numbers, his got a whole list of them from over the years.

Will post the catalogs once I find a hosting spot - the scans are horrendously huge in .tiff format. 40meg a pic. I'm too lazy to convert them all, especially as my EF9 is languishing in the garage and I'm enjoying 1300cc of GTi go-cart fun.

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Originally Posted by Limo

ef8 crx stuff
fuel filter isnt specific to the ef8.. forgot where its from tho

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Fuel Filter is the same as Honda Concerto:honda:

Part number 16010-SF3-K51

anyone know how to get the fuel pump out of ef9?

does anyone know if ef7 parts are same as ef8 or aust spec crx's?

Most part of ef7 r interchangeable with ed the aus spec crx....

Does any1 know the vtec solenoid gasket part number for b16a cable version 1 ? or is it the same as all b16a engine.....

Cheers

genk
part number is 15825-PR3-005

for b16a1 solenoid gasket... well that is the part number i found off the net

i ordered one as well, 35 bucks, have it next to me, havent installed it though

part number for rear seat knob to unlatch.....to fold it down, one is broken
ef8
or should i just to to wreckers or just ghetto it?

from the euro epc bludger
82224-sh5-a01zg

also used in the cb euro accord wagon :/

the jap part number might be different though


i would just remove the other knob, see the thread and the length of it
and get something with same thread and close enough length of another honda

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Originally Posted by genkimashi

Most part of ef7 r interchangeable with ed the aus spec crx....

Does any1 know the vtec solenoid gasket part number for b16a cable version 1 ? or is it the same as all b16a engine.....

Cheers

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the vtec solenoids are NOT all the same

Use the part number that dxs gave you and you wont have any issues :thumbsup:

Left to right: EF B16A/PR3 solenoid, 15825-PR3-005, 15825-P08-005
http://metahacking.org/webpics/civic...c_solenoid.jpg

it is slightly different.

Thank for the head up.... tats wat i was worry bout... 2 different gasket... from wat i had read...

Cheers

Got mine today...vtec solenoid gasket.... have to order it from melbourne apparently as not lots of honda part dealership keep hold of it... n thx for the guide... PR3 the way to go...

Has anyone needed to fix the y1 gearbox? Mine doesn't want to hold 5th gear anymore. I can engage but once I take the clutch out it pops out.

Looking for the part number or where to find the below:

Y1 Gearbox Oil Filler Bolt

Thanks

i would say any b series filler bolt will fit

With reference to the question I asked above, after doing some research discovered the below:

Honda 92800-20000 (Bolt, Drain plug 20mm) (FILL PLUG)
Honda 94109-20000 (Washer, Drain Plug 20mm) (FILL PLUG)
Honda 94109-14000 (Washer, Drain Plug 14mm) (DRAIN PLUG)

Honda 54110-SH3-003 (Change Lever Ball Seat)
Number 9 in diagram

Honda 54115-SH3-000 (Change Lever Dust Seal B)
Number 13 in diagram

Honda 54111-SH3-000 (Change Ball Holder)
Number 10 in diagram

Honda 46505-SA5-000 (Pedal Stopper Pad)
Rubber piece that turns off brake lights by resting against the switch.

Found these off a honda parts website, then enquired with torque honda part's desk to confirm with my EF9, placed the order and now waiting for them to come in from Japan/Melbourne. Refurbing a few old bit's and pieces, as the gear stick rubber seals/holders seem to have worn out over the last 17 years. Getting it all back to OEM freshness.

http://img126.imageshack.us/img126/7...boltff0.th.jpghttp://img126.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif

http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/4...gramuy5.th.jpghttp://img339.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif

ef8 engine mounts???

the one of the front of the car, next to the radiator?

I wasted $60 at autobarn for the wrong mount.

can't return it cos its special order:(

can someone help me out?

I hear that da teg parts are samish??

I just need that mount on the side of the engine/front of the car.......

Bau

Hey Bludger try this site - from pic you need a 50840-SK7-01

http://www.crxsi.com/jdm/

all the part number we will ever need - I did all my mounts from this site and were all spot on - even got the honda dealer to check vin against the numbers i had found and all was good

I found out that its exactly the same as a da9 item with b18a.

EF9 Brake Pad number: DB1133

Front Brake rotor number: DBA474 (262mm)

I need part number for top radiator hose.

ef8

Top radiator hose : 19501-PW0-000
Bottom radiator hose : 19502-PW0-000

i need part number for ef8 clutch cable

from the website, it looks like this number

WIRE COMP., CLUTCH

22910-SH3-N12

http://www.crxsi.com/jdm/ef8-1005225...rake-Pedal.htm

I've had problems finding an ef8 cable too.

On ed9, B series converted cars, the cable sits at a position that is not so ideal.

In saying that, it can be made to work (for a while at least) with other similar cables.

DA9 integra, ED civic/crx, Accord..... etc.