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I have been researching a few shocks and springs.
I have found the sports ryder shocks and sports ryder springs from pedder 1100$ not fitted.
How well are these products made?
they will be going on my ek1
will only ever be driven on the street.
i will have 16' wheels on my car.
Wonderong on the build quality of the pedders gear. will they suit my needs?
I dont want to mess around with coilovers and adustable shocks as i wouldnt have a clue what im doing.
hmm....many have mixed feelings about pedders and most say they aren't the best of quality. Serisouly, get Koni yellows and king springs. It would cost around $200 more not fitted but the shock quality should be superior x 10. Check out the traders. they sell them.
How do you adjust the koni yellows? do i need to jack up the car everytime?
What if i were to get pedders springs and a set of say koni red's?
I am after hte pedders springs as there 40 - 50mm drop
just save a little bit more to get Koni or even Jap one (Tein, Zeal, HKS etc) they are proven to be good stuff and Yes they are a bit more expensive but after u put them on....u will use it everyday and every single turn will give you the feeling of money well spend :) . Dont settle for the 2nd best.
if i were to get pedders springs and a set of koni red's.
Would that be a good setup?
as kings lows and koni yellows seems way to much of a pain to get the right height as i dont have a clue what im doing to set them.
Koni yellows are adjustable in height (spring perch - have to take the sussy out and do it, but how friggin often would u be changing height anyway!?!). Also they are damper adjustable with a twist of a knob on the top of the shock (simple as bat poo).
You can just get the peddrers springs and use the koni yellow shocks. apparently, the yellows arent worth much more than the red and are heaps heaps better (as a trader with personal experience states).
dude, koni yellows and koni reds are basically the same unit (in terms of height adjustment) but different (in terms of damper adjustment).
The springs are interchangalbe between shock brands as well, so get whicher springs u want, but make sure u get a nice shock. Kings low are 40mm to 50 mm as well. and are probaly cheaper. with a set of koni yellows, they should be FINE for street use. In fact, I have so much confidence in saying that, that I have actually ordered a set for myself as well, soon to be delivered (hopefuly)
well does that sound like a better option pedders springs then koni red/yellow shocks.
I wouldnt want to get the yellows set them lower and have it to low or to high still would need to take htem all teh way back out :(
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Originally Posted by SiReal
I thoguht king lows are 25 - 30 mm and super lows are 50 - 60mm
If i am not wrong about that..
i will get the pedders springs and koni shocks
I think ur really confused hehe
Springs and Shocks are different items. BUT you need them both for sussy. If u like pedders springs more than the kings brand, then get them instead. THe yellows are not like coilovers where u can adjust with a spanner. They have a spring perch which can be set at normal = stock OR lower = 20mm lower
So there is no need to be messing around with height on the yellows UNLESS you want to lower the car a further 20mm after you have the whole setup installed.
If ur springs provide u with a heiight ur happy with, then leave the shocks alone.
edit: sorry my bad. got confused between king low and superlow.
that is what i was trying to get at how do you adjust the shock.
I think i am going to stick with the pedders springs as there 320$
then get a set of koni shocks.
But can springs not work with some lowerd shocks?
Also any reviews on the pedder sprigns do they sag over time like i have kings do?
one thing i'd like to add is once you put the new sussy on.....they will drop a little bit (1 cm or little bit more) further as the spring settle. So u dont need to be too fussy about the ride height you got in the first time.;)
If u get sports shocks, they SHOULD be designed to work with lowered springs. Just ensure u have ur bumpstops cut corrently so that ur new shock wont be travelling full distance (thats another different issue all together - see my thread on bumpstops).
Good luck with the buy. I'm sure u'll be very happy.
for that i will purchase some lowerd bumpstops from egsi when i get onto him about shocks.
so its settled the pedders spring + some koni shocks should be half decent setup?
stop worrying mate. hehe...i think u'll be getting an awesome setup.
Mate, I reckon get some kings and koni yellows. I have king super lows (loweres 40-50mm) and Koni reds.
I'd advise you to go with Koni yellows (I wish I had yellows, my reds only have 3 adjustable settings, and it's internal too, so to adjust it I have to pull the shock out, whereas with the yellows, there is a knob on the top which you turn to adjust), and go a set of king lows (25-30mm). I've had a few headaches with the super lows - I scrape like mad often. It looks great, but is a pain in the ass. Go the lows IMO.
You'll be more than happy.
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Originally Posted by DomenEK
but 30mm lower isnt going to look that low with 16's?
I want a lowish but legal look.
I also got a quote from kmac springs there springs are 330$ plus 28 delivery for a 40mm drop
Im sitting on king springs super lows and to be honest.. its not that bad... people say its soft and bumpy, but i dont really feel it... its pretty stiff imo... i took the car for some twisties with trav, dave and chris.. and it did its job and i managed to keep up... btw, im just using Kings Super low with OEM shocks with some urethane bump stops from trav, theres no problems at all... so if your after a budget setup and something that drops your car and make it look nice, then just get king springs... im happy with mine, it does its job and its affordable
if ur in sydney u can hop in my car and try it i've got the pedders low ryder springs 2" drop on my car, and i found it to be quiet bumpy. However the ppl at whiteline mention it's quiet soft which contradict with what it is..hmmm
or u can look for EK4 or EK9 stocks.......they are cheap but excellent quality......aftermarket spring is happy with those and the money u save can invest in coilover in the future.Quote:
Originally Posted by nugget666
But trust me.....once u get used to it....u always wants more~:)
I got King 'Low' Springs for $290 retail price from Burson Auto Parts in NSW (I believe they have a store in Caloundra)
Honestly, Pedders = PÖÖH for quality and the difference is noticeable.
King Springs + KYB AGB shocks would be my recommendation
PEDDERS:
I too like many of the other guys who have posted here do have mixed feelings about pedders suspension gear. Yes they are Australian made, but by my personal experience i do not feel that they represent the great quality they we need on our cars.
OTHER OPTIONS:
KYB, Koni all supply good quality shocks at competitive prices, and just offer the edge on pedders. Yes, the might be a little bit more expensive but id pay that extra!
COILOVERS?
Coilovers, for that price or around 1500, I think you could get a good quality new, or even second hand set of tein, cusco etc. Yes it is a little bit more expensive, but the flexibility of a coilover is awesome.
Pay a little bit extra, go to a workshop and get them to set them up for "YOUR" needs. Maybe down the line you may be interested in some track work, or keen on giving your car a dumped look for a show and shine.
Personally, if i were spending $1k on new shocks, id be looking for a comparative set of coilovers.
Best of luck