Engine Idle noise

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23-06-2006, 09:05 AM
pilotb777_300

Engine Idle noise

Hi guys,

I'm new to this forum having just bought a second hand 2003 accord euro 6SMT, lowered, 18" G.max rims, Blue callipers. I've noticed that while idling and accelerating from low REV's, theres a ticking sound that seems to be coming from somewhere around the intake... I had honda listen to it and they said its the fuel injectors pulsating.... Now I've owned a couple of cars b4 the euro, all fuel injected and none of them made that sound. Is what honda's saying true ???? or should I try another dealer ?

thanks !
23-06-2006, 10:16 AM
EuroDude

Both my Civic and Euro have that throttle body/intake ticking noise and have heard that this is normal for virtually all Honda car engines. Its just a design trait and nothing to worry about. :)
23-06-2006, 10:21 AM
pilotb777_300

Thanks Euro dude ! you've just saved me a trip to another honda dealer !
I must say the worst thing about having bought my honda is having to deal with those dealers. They treat you like they know it all and you know nothing ! arghhhhh

Anyway thanks again !! :)
23-06-2006, 12:06 PM
Chris_F

i notice this noise too, i think it's normal like euro dude said. Get some pictures of your euro up in the appearence/gallery forum :thumbsup:
23-06-2006, 12:30 PM
aaronng

Mine also has this ticking noise. Probably louder than everyone elses car. Hehe.
23-06-2006, 02:34 PM
pilotb777_300

Thanks for all the replies ! I will have some photos posted up just as soon as I work out how to do it !
23-06-2006, 04:45 PM
EuroDude

upload them to www.imageshack.us

then use the

[ IMG ] http://imageshack.picture.jpg [ /IMG ]

image tags (without the spaces) to post the pics in your thread.
25-06-2006, 04:01 PM
pilotb777_300

Thanks euro dude...
Pics have now been uploaded in the gallery forum !
Enjoy
25-06-2006, 06:50 PM
TypeG

I notice some tick noise from the engine or around the engine bay area...... after I track only for around 10 laps it. will this cause some serious issue at all? Should I go to Honda and ask him to fix it? Can I claim the warranty at all as I got some mods on my car like injec CAI, exhuast, coilover, brake..... (no engine work)

I never notice the noise until I stand next to my hood
25-06-2006, 10:35 PM
EuroAccord13

How many kms has the car done, you might need a valve clearance adjustment..
26-06-2006, 10:18 AM
TypeG

Quote:

Originally Posted by EuroAccord13

How many kms has the car done, you might need a valve clearance adjustment..

only 51XXkm
is that too new to track it?
also can i claim warranty for doing a valve clearance adjustment from Honda with all my mod?
26-06-2006, 07:24 PM
petsfact

nah it's never too new you should start thrashing it since 100km
26-06-2006, 10:14 PM
EuroAccord13

Quote:

Originally Posted by TypeG

only 51XXkm
is that too new to track it?
also can i claim warranty for doing a valve clearance adjustment from Honda with all my mod?

Now that is going to be a problem, it really depends on what modifications you have, they will do almost anything to try and link the idle noise to your mods.. I'll be careful with them... Good luck
27-06-2006, 12:10 AM
TypeG

in the worst case, how much is the value gap adjustment usually cost?
27-06-2006, 01:27 AM
timofytit

when i bought my car second hand from a dealership it had a similar noise. Took it to honda for a service and an inspection. They removed 6 bent valves. 3k later, all good. Hope you aint bought a lemon like me.
27-06-2006, 01:44 PM
TypeG

i bought it brand new.......
27-06-2006, 11:46 PM
timofytit

Quote:

Originally Posted by pilotb777_300

Hi guys,

I'm new to this forum having just bought a second hand 2003 accord euro 6SMT, lowered, 18" G.max rims, Blue callipers. I've noticed that while idling and accelerating from low REV's, theres a ticking sound that seems to be coming from somewhere around the intake... I had honda listen to it and they said its the fuel injectors pulsating.... Now I've owned a couple of cars b4 the euro, all fuel injected and none of them made that sound. Is what honda's saying true ???? or should I try another dealer ?

thanks !

when i bought my car second hand from a dealership it had a similar noise. Took it to honda for a service and an inspection. They removed 6 bent valves. 3k later, all good. Hope you aint bought a lemon like me.
28-06-2006, 09:15 AM
EuroDude

Quote:

Originally Posted by TypeG

in the worst case, how much is the value gap adjustment usually cost?

No more than 1 hour labour. It requires no parts and only takes around 20 minutes at the most.

-Remove rocker cover
-turn engine to TDC
-Adjust four valves
-turn engine 180
-Adjust four valves
-turn engine 180
-Adjust four valves
-turn engine 180
-Adjust four valves
-reseal and put back the rocker cover
28-06-2006, 09:18 AM
Adagio

Dealer Treatment

Quote:

Originally Posted by pilotb777_300

Thanks Euro dude ! you've just saved me a trip to another honda dealer !
I must say the worst thing about having bought my honda is having to deal with those dealers. They treat you like they know it all and you know nothing ! arghhhhh

Anyway thanks again !! :)

Funny you should mention that, it is the precise feeling I always get when talking to any sales person, very polite but the balloon above their heads says
"Just another idiot of a client I have to suffer" perhaps we should start a thread on this. I thought it was just my Honda dealership!
Adagio
28-06-2006, 12:20 PM
TypeG

Good
then i hope Honda will do it for free
what is turn engine 180?

Quote:

Originally Posted by EuroDude

No more than 1 hour labour. It requires no parts and only takes around 20 minutes at the most.

-Remove rocker cover
-turn engine to TDC
-Adjust four valves
-turn engine 180
-Adjust four valves
-turn engine 180
-Adjust four valves
-turn engine 180
-Adjust four valves
-reseal and put back the rocker cover
01-07-2006, 05:32 PM
pilotb777_300

adagio...

I dont know which dealer u go to but mine is the worst ! I got into a whole fight with them a week ago about oil... I rocked up with my own shell helix ultra and I politely asked them to use it... I knew they wouldn't do it willingly but the crap I got from them was beyond a joke ! in the end they refused to do it, saying they dont wana be liable for any engine damages... I told them I was an engineer as well with many years experience in designing aircraft engines and I'll take full (in writing) responsibility for whatever happens... in the end they bascially said we'll do it but they won't fix any engines problems under warrenty if it does come up. so I said fine I dont wana service my car today and left. I took it to another mechanic down the road who does lots of Bemmers and Audi's and he said he gets a lot of honda customers cause they r fed up with honda prices and service. Anway it all worked out ok in the end.. I will never be going back to a honda dealer and if something does need to be fixed under warrenty, the mechannic says he deals with the dealers himself to get it done so I dont have to worry about it. I hope not everyones experience with honda is as bad as mine !!! cause appart from the dealers, the car is the best I have driven so far !!! :)
01-07-2006, 06:43 PM
EuroDude

Quote:

Originally Posted by TypeG

Good
then i hope Honda will do it for free
what is turn engine 180?

There is a socket behind the front left wheel where you turn/crank the engine manually using a long breaker bar to move the pistons/valves 180 degrees to position the tappets for proper adjustment.

My mech cheated and only rotated it 360 degrees at a time, causing weird engine performance which required me to do it myself, which is quite easy to do once you know how :thumbsup:
01-07-2006, 10:59 PM
yfin

Quote:

Originally Posted by pilotb777_300

I dont know which dealer u go to but mine is the worst ! I got into a whole fight with them a week ago about oil... I rocked up with my own shell helix ultra and I politely asked them to use it... I knew they wouldn't do it willingly but the crap I got from them was beyond a joke ! in the end they refused to do it, saying they dont wana be liable for any engine damages... I told them I was an engineer as well with many years experience in designing aircraft engines and I'll take full (in writing) responsibility for whatever happens... in the end they bascially said we'll do it but they won't fix any engines problems under warrenty if it does come up. so I said fine I dont wana service my car today and left. I took it to another mechanic down the road who does lots of Bemmers and Audi's and he said he gets a lot of honda customers cause they r fed up with honda prices and service. Anway it all worked out ok in the end.. I will never be going back to a honda dealer and if something does need to be fixed under warrenty, the mechannic says he deals with the dealers himself to get it done so I dont have to worry about it. I hope not everyones experience with honda is as bad as mine !!! cause appart from the dealers, the car is the best I have driven so far !!! :)

Good on you for going somewhere else :thumbsup: Many Honda owners would just take the dealer line and back down. If i was you I would call up the Honda Customer Care number and complain.

Oh by the way - I went to a Perth Honda Dealer with 5 litres of Shell Helix Ultra (5w40 i believe - not the thicker 15w50) for one of my services. When I asked them to use this oil for my service the response was "it is good oil - no worries".