Honda CRX, 1.6L DOHC - ZC (JDM) 1989?

Hey there guy's.
I have been tossing up between getting a CRX or a Civic as my first car. Not sure.
But I have recently spotted a Rather Nice 1989 Honda CRX 5SPD with the 1.6L DOHC - ZC (JDM) motor.
How do these Motors go? 0-100 times? What do they compare with?
Car only has 105,000k's

Now the car has been imported from Japan. Car is Immac, The guy wants $9000 but he said I might be able to knock him to down to $7500 without Rims.
How much should I be paying for something like this?
Would this be a good first car for me? Are the prone to problems?
Comes with Reg and & RWC


- Turko

give it a search. in the sticky thread.
thats the same engine in the civic si's.
the si and the vti are the same on paper, except the vti is 1nm more then the si.
but thats a maximum torque.
many people like the zc engine, equal band from low rpm to higher rpm. where as few people say the vti sluggers untlil it hits vtec.
both engine provide a differant feeel. the vti has more aftermarket parts.
the dohc non vtec has a better response to turbo.

I heard the ZC had slightly more power, and were not released in aus

^^135-140 ps to be exact for the JDM ZC as opposed to the aussie D16 DOHC's 130bhp. It's about 3 bhp difference when calculated out. A lot of errors come from people expecting ps to = bhp, which it doesn't.

Honestly? Having owned a JDM car, I can say get the AUDM version from the parts side unless it's a JDM glasstop or SiR

Setanta is on the money.

Be careful that some insururers also shy away from imports.

it doesn't sounds like it's worth that much.. crx's do tend to hold their value more than civics, as it's hondas "Civic Racing eXtreme".
not really prone to problems, but since it's old check for rust, chassis flex etc etc.
you'll find that most of the parts are interchangeable with the AUSDM, except for a few exterior and interior parts.
w/o seeing the car i'd say you should be paying $7500 from the beginning.

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Originally Posted by n/a

it doesn't sounds like it's worth that much.. crx's do tend to hold their value more than civics, as it's hondas "Civic Racing eXtreme".

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seems like alot of people have different variations with CR-X

but 1 that takes the cake would be Civic Racing Xperiment.

CRX tend to hold their value because of they're rareness and mind you they were considered the TYPE R's back in their days. (i think the CRX was also once a CAR OF THE YEAR in some magazine in the early 90s)

I heard it was Civic Renaissance type-X ?????

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Originally Posted by Klayemore

I heard it was Civic Renaissance type-X ?????

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yeh that too.

lol

haha... in the Hot4s CRX Special that yellow CRX has Civic Racing Xperiment on the side and the guys actually called it 'CIVIC RACING EXPERIMENT' :P OK...

Civic Renaissance Model-X i think is the correct term. I've found it somewhere on the JDM Honda website years ago...

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Originally Posted by SINISTR

Civic Renaissance Model-X i think is the correct term. I've found it somewhere on the JDM Honda website years ago...

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bingo same shit i seen on a honda website.

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Originally Posted by Turko

Hey there guy's.
I have been tossing up between getting a CRX or a Civic as my first car. Not sure.
But I have recently spotted a Rather Nice 1989 Honda CRX 5SPD with the 1.6L DOHC - ZC (JDM) motor.
How do these Motors go? 0-100 times? What do they compare with?
Car only has 105,000k's

Now the car has been imported from Japan. Car is Immac, The guy wants $9000 but he said I might be able to knock him to down to $7500 without Rims.
How much should I be paying for something like this?
Would this be a good first car for me? Are the prone to problems?
Comes with Reg and & RWC


- Turko

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if you can get it at 7500 without rims i would say take it and use what you have saved to get all the safety shit done.... imobiliser fitted and timing belt job done

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Originally Posted by Klayemore

I heard it was Civic Renaissance type-X ?????

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^^ your correct.

imo a lil jdm crx would be pretty cool. my mate used to have one with a jdm zc(stamped zc) im pretty sure it didnt come with an lsd tho.

7500 seems ok for a crx thats immac and stuff but 9000? wow that seems high.

got pics or link?

lsd was optional on all jdm crxs

ok are both these engines DOHC ??? sorry "nub" to the whole honda engine series :P

pok

by any chance is this a nsw car?

i got a ZC in my crx (also stamped zc) well it goes very well and iv had no problems i also have an lsd gearbox, short shifter, heavy duty clutch

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Originally Posted by Pokiou

ok are both these engines DOHC ??? sorry "nub" to the whole honda engine series :P

pok

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Yes they are both pretty much the exact same engine. 1 was released in Australia (d16) the other in Japan (zc)..

Crx's tend to hold their value pretty well. I originally had a ZC and it was a great car nice and peaky.. I love my b16a SiR now has the bit more power and I find it has a fair bit of toque. Maybe have a look around for an SiR some go for near the same price but finally decision rest on the condition of the car.

Enjoy and hope you find a good crx.

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Originally Posted by rexi3

I love my b16a SiR now has the bit more power and I find it has a fair bit of torque.

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lmfao, the b16a is actually pretty well known for having relatively little torque :p

yeah i think you'll find a ZC in good running order will have more torque low down than a B16A. this is due to the 90mm stroke as opposed to the 77mm stroke of the B16A. even peak torque of the B16A is only a couple more Nm over the ZC
however the higher compression of the B16A gives it better response. plus the shorter ratios tend to have you sitting higher in the rev range more often.

fixed: cheers yonas

seems very pricey
fair enuf the engine has just over 100 clicks but its a 17 year old car man
i wouldnt pay anything more than 7500 for it. so stand firm

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Originally Posted by sivic

yeah i think you'll find a ZC in good running order will have more torque low down than a B16A. this is due to the 90mm stroke as opposed to the 81mm stroke of the B16A. even peak torque of the B16A is only a couple more Nm over the ZC
however the higher compression of the B16A gives it better response. plus the shorter ratios tend to have you sitting higher in the rev range more often.

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the car only has shorter ratios depending on the gearbox selected equiped y1/ys1

yes thats true as the cable tranny's from the first B16's had quite long gears FD: 4.266, although many of the L3 tranny's from the ZC's in the EF's had a FD: 3.88, although some came with a FD: 4.25.

know that the ZC CRX equipped OEM LSD, my EG4 gear box has changed to ZC LSD gear box, close ratio than normal D series gear box.

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Originally Posted by sivic

yeah i think you'll find a ZC in good running order will have more torque low down than a B16A. this is due to the 90mm stroke as opposed to the 81mm stroke of the B16A. even peak torque of the B16A is only a couple more Nm over the ZC
however the higher compression of the B16A gives it better response. plus the shorter ratios tend to have you sitting higher in the rev range more often.

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b16a stroke :77mm
bore : 81mm

lol. whoops my bad. i'd better edit.
but even further demonstrates my point