If these 3 light-tuned cars meet on the mountain (downhill), what do u guys think the result will be?
Light tuned: filter n exhaust n suspension
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If these 3 light-tuned cars meet on the mountain (downhill), what do u guys think the result will be?
Light tuned: filter n exhaust n suspension
EVo 6 for sure
s2k.
Hate to say it but if the sti has good sussy mods then its my pick! Gotta love the S2k tho, got shitloads more style!
no doubt the evo
s2k wil have a better take of ..
s2k better take off ? u serious ??
thought the awd mofos would jump in..then the s2k will start catchin up
l rekon the turbos will win
but l'd take the s2k anyday!
Thats the thing with AWD - if you launch them hard they will break (but be VERY quick)....or if you launch them carefully they will bog down....its hard to launch a AWD that you plan on keeping for a while!
hehehe unless its not yours :D
s2k
AE86 !!
I mean sk2 ....
Hi all, excuse my interrupting your thread. I just wanted to say howdy, i'm new here and new to forums. I own a silver s2k and enjoy reading what others have to say about them. I'm also hoping to meet people interested in going on cruises etc.
Well thats all for now, see you round ;)
Oh yeah i almost forgot.......my money's on the S2k (of course)
might want to put your introduction in the intro section mate :D welcome anyway
either the sti or the s2k :D :D :D :D :D :twisted:
Hate to say it, but the S2K would lose in a battle like that. Then again, it depends *how* each car is modified. But my money would be on the EVO.
Thats not exactly true.Quote:
Originally Posted by VTEC16
With the older rexies they would break their gearboxes quicker then u can say 'opps' :oops:
But the new MY02+ STi and their 6 speed gear boxes are pretty much unbreakable...in japan they ones with 700+hp and still on standard gearbox...u can do 7000rpm launches all day no worries. the drive shafts would probarly break b4 the gear box does.
But i think the evo would win pretty easy. if they are all stock though.
but if they where modded the gap would go even further. The turbos react very well with mods.
S2K will win. Evo is heavier. In one best motoring video, they actually lined an Amuse Honda S2000 against an Evo 7 down a touge. If u guys recall, it's the blu S2K wid the rear wing. U can hav all the power in the world but talking bout downhill winding road racing, S2K will win. Uphill, prob evo. Faster take off due to torque. I use to drive n race a 6 so i sorta know how they r. ;)
lets see...
2L RWD vs 2 2.0L 4WD TURBO!
evo for sure.
the sti!
Yes thats true but only on the straights. Best motoring has done a touge segment where the NA S2000 beat the Evo 7 point A to B. Weight plays a big factor in windy road racing because heavy cars tend to understeer more. Lighter cars also mean that u can brake later entering the corner. Evo 6s r bout 1340kg since the last time i weighed mine. S2000 is more or less 200 kgs lighter than evo anyday. S2000 was focusedly built as a race car as said in Best motoring 6. If u race both in the wet, i guess evo wud win coz of the superb traction. Thats the beauty of 4wd ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by one more chance
s2k in an actual togue battle
amuse S2K vs EVO8 the S2K chopped the EVO on down hill
with the right driver the S2K is a real weapon
Damn right. A weapon off mass distructionQuote:
Originally Posted by [[d a n n y
the one with the most aftermarket stickers on the driver side door.Quote:
Originally Posted by EK7
remember it has to be driver side door!!!!.
down the hill the 4wd power train cars will alwayz suffer understeer. cuz of it's 4 paws
downhill race is not a power race....
the winner will b decided by how well balanced each car is.
S2k is a 50/50 weight distributed car just like the MR2 and the NSX. and ligher than the EVo and the STi.
Interestingly, I work for Subaru and we get quite a few MY02/03 STI's in for gearbox rebuilds :roll:Quote:
Originally Posted by fingolfin
Id just like to say, Subaru has got nothing on Honda :D Go s2k
This debate will require you guys to download the TOUGE battles between the AWD, FWD and the RWD... high octane packed... of course.. many find it hard to beat Keiichi in his Hachiroku... but yeah.. the videos will answer all your questions :D....
so where can u dl these best motoring vids by the way. Oh yeh and hi guys, im new
type: "bestmotoring avi"
or "index of bestmotoring"
into google.
No. You are completely utterly and could not be any more wrong. The s2000 will have the poorest take off of the three. The STi and Evo are both awd drive 6 speeds, meaning you'll have a traction advantage compared to the s2000 rwd drive train. Add to this that the the STi and Evo will hit max power a few thousand revolutions before the s2k, as well as the added torque from the forced engines. With the honda out of the picture, the Evo will outdo the STi in take off due to its computerised torque balances between the front and rear drives.Quote:
Originally Posted by traNce_gl
but this aint a take off debate..
it's which car will do better out of the 3 down hill
tougestyle battle..
with equal skilled drivers
lol... sif compare AWD Turbo's to a RWD N/A :D
If the S2k done right it doesn't need alot of power to win the touge just total balanced setup, Best Motoring proved that against a Evo 7 just as EuroAccord13 said.
amuse s2k proves it all :D
s2k
not really, just slip the clutch, box wont break but your clutch wont last very long if you do it too often :DQuote:
Originally Posted by VTEC16
everyone saying... s2k from non biased opinion here?
:p
VW Bug for sure
This is funny.
I know this is a Honda forum and all... but....
If these three cars were racing on a mountain pass "TOO GAY" style, with identical drivers, then of course the EVO would have it all over the other two cars.
now... stop watching initial D! :P
i reakon the wrx would win for sure, better handleing with all for wheels driving. I work for honda and found that the S2 is very lite in the rear.
i want the s2k to win.
No idea on the track actually... but yeah, GO VTEC :)
I think the race would be more between the sti and the evo....the s2000 is just not gonna threaten those two....in my opinion, i think the sti will win...
Understeer is your enemy :)
HAHA this thread is a joke, i mean the s2k is a great car and id love to have one, but reality check people.
THE EVO WILL WIN.
All this talk of amuse s2k this and amuse s2k is stupid, yes its an awesome and quick car as is the 3litre nsx which won another round of touge battles.
But really how can you compare modified cars?
its just a battle of who has spent the most money, or who has the better tuning house and driver...
If you want to accurately compare cars like that they need to be stock, and when stock the evo is much better package outa the box than the honda or suby. Simple.
Why Evo better? Latest STI is nearly .5secs quicker 0-100 then latest evo....
As much as i love Hondas, there is not subsitute for a turbo rush and the gains achieved compared to N/A .....very close call but i think the EVO would win....there handling is a tad better than the STI
And what, that translates to better cornering???Quote:
Originally Posted by IRI
No, but an evo doesnt have that much of an advantage on cornering does it?Quote:
Originally Posted by NeoNode
Well with the DCCD Subaru offers on the STi now is closing the gap, but the Evo is still ahead.Quote:
Originally Posted by IRI
And also what about the new Evo MR??
Watch the 5/30 Top Gear episode... the '05 MR spanks the STI by a TON. They called the sti an understeering pig. The "stig" said that the STI is a good boy's car, but the MR is a "man's" car.
The MR's laptime was 1:26.0 (Lambo's Gullardo was 1:25.8)
The STI's laptime was 1:29.4, I think.
I prefer the drivers from Best Motoring compared to Top Gear's so called STIG that likes his classical music. But that's just my opinion.
LOL i cant believe you guys would vote for STI.i think you guys really need to sit in one and i bet you will take back the comment. I personally own a 02 STI and it understeer like a MOFO. Now with the DCCD it gets oversteel, it is something that subaru cant get it right.
i agree with most of the things Danny with the weight disturbution and stuff but with the Amuse S2k! well you said it, is a Amuse S2K and how much suspension and work has been put on? We are talking about a light tune rite? im have seen the video and i must say, the car is very well tune.
Totti: Do you mind telling me what happen to those gear box? im not saying you are liar? but the owner must done somthing horrible to the gear box.
the list would be
1) EVO
2) S2K
3) STI
Look how i vote the STI last..haha
notice...
rally cars are AWD....
I find this thread totally amusing... its good for a laugh at least.
however, I dont know why this discussion has even been raised...
In terms of grip and acceleration, the STi and EVO will have much higher levels than the S2000.
and between the STi and EVO, The EVO will be faster than the STi.
If watching initial D is gonna cloud your thinking like this... you really should stop watching it...
its a cartoon dammit.. watch it for its entertainment value only!
s2k will never as fast as those 2 beast
light tune hill battles, take a look at Best Motoring videos
s2k wins easy :D
i'd go the rexy, altho i have seen videos in japan on s2k and evo but in oz they don't compare
yeh i read in speed that the rexy handles pretty good, better than evo VIII
Evo
S2000
STi
Simple as that, the Evo easily will kill all three cars round a track, the MR will demolish them, and the FQ400... well... the other cars aren't in the same league, the 22B or the Spec C come close, but not close enough...
and then there's the brittish MR FQ400 with 300kw of goodness in a lightweight chassis with a 0-100 time of 3.5 seconds, faster than a Pagani Zonda.
:S enough said really.
the stig was Perry McArthy an ex formula one test driver and now its damon hill former formula one world champion.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeoNode
The guys on best motoring are kooks compared to those two.
btw.
The s2000 should win, if they are all aus spec. They have similar power to the ground after considering the extra drive train loss in the sti and evo. The s2000 rrd layout is more suited to tarmac racing, to much understeer on both sti and evo.
aiyaya...
anybody got this 3 type of cars?..go and race on the mountain pass and tell us the result...actually, how many turbo cars actually have tha Nuts to floor it while down hill?...for a STD turbo cars without any good breaks (braided hose, slotted disc, racing pads, high temp break fluid) on downhill means that the driver are stupid enough to risk that and over confident about his car...but, if you don't believe this...go and try out with a turbo car...see whether a Turbo car uses the break harder or the S2k (comparing the weight, Evo or STI loses + weight increases the break stress)....still...at the end of the day...3 of those cars are still awsome...3 of them are still winners...
under or over steer is depending on how the driver wants the car to be...but understeer is always not a good thing (too fast into corners making tyre losing their optimum grip or traction)...oversteer infact, can sometime improve your time as well...but if you're damn good at 4wd drifting, you're nearly the god of mountain pass dude...hahaha...but if you're not careful, you'll either end up sticking on to the tree or flying off the cliff...hehe...seen it myself (sticking to the tree)....scary...
well base on my noob-ish opinion... among the 3 dars i would say its the EVO if all of em are stock, i assume that since this was lsited without indicating they ahve been modded base on performance... but thats me as EVO has been vocally advertise and has the reputation for performance
i think the sti cos the bonnet looks better
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pre_ludachris
You think the bonnet looks better?
It's almost universally said that the WRX is one of the ugliest cars ever made, awesome, but ugly.
Only the bug eyes. :pQuote:
Originally Posted by bennettaru
since when does your fat head speak for the universe?Quote:
Originally Posted by bennettaru
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pre_ludachris
well, why don't you crawl out from under that rock and start listening to what people have to say, notably, the automobile press, car columnists, car journalists.
Start with top gear, and go from there.
aiya...3 of them also slow...mine fastest...muahahahha...take them for breakfast, lunch, dinner and supper dude...wanna try? Opps, i forgot that i'm cooking something in my kitchen..sorry, gonna miss the race....muahahha..... :)
u might wanna %#$@ that rock i crawl out of cos the ratings ive seen for the car has a numberous amount of stars, which is far from what i can say about the size of brain!Quote:
Originally Posted by bennettaru
Hey, settle down children....
You dumb ****, you said:Quote:
Originally Posted by Pre_ludachris
You think the STi, because it LOOKS better,Quote:
Originally Posted by Pre_ludachris
shit yeah, if a car LOOKS better it must be better, i'm over this, you're just retarted.
wow wow....volcano erupted...end up all 3 cars melted...so..all loses...haha...
oh serios?..and if i wanted to hear an arsehole talkQuote:
Originally Posted by bennettaru
i'd fart
hahaha, ah shit this has been one funny night,
someone lock this thread, this is just getting stoopid
But wait, that was actually a good call you just said, really, it's a keeper, you better write it down, then repeat it to other people, cause you're cool, really, you are.
dont try and piss in my pocket u fag!
u dont need to state the obvious.
pffft lock this thread? what needs to be lock is that closet with u in it!
hahahahahahahaaha, ohhh shit this is funny, good calls mate, got any more, really, here i'll join in, cept i stole this from BTTF.
"Why don't you, make like a tree, and get the hell out of here"
Go back to watching fast and the furious, and listening to fully sick ludacris, with your fully sick subs
WOW! dont waste urselfQuote:
Originally Posted by bennettaru
Keep the personal attacks to PMs and comment about the topic.
Anymore outburst will result in the user's account suspended.
Grow up!!
Back on topic...
If it was between an Evo 6, S2K and a Sti of the same time (I presume bug eye version), then I'd have my money on the Evo 6. The Sti and Evo are pretty much road going rally cars, while the S2K is just a sports car. 170kW or so, but so what?? That's top end. Sti and Evo both have more than that and they have way more torque than the S2K.
All paw and loads of power just kill the competition. Even if you compared a modified s2K with a stock evo/sti, it just won't cut. Oh yeah, if you're all saying the Amuse S2K was awsome, well to burst your bubble, a modified RX8 finally beat it in the latest
touge 300.
But at the end of the day, I still prefer to have a s2K, simply because of the fun factor. AWD is just....grip and grip. Very boring in the twisties, just fun on the straight, although I wouldn't mind the Evo8 either :p