Gruppe-M purchase! & review w/ pics

Ok My review :

Firstly Installation took about 2 hours, i actually had to modify my piping from the Typhoon K&N kit

Installation : Easy, it came with instruction which it wasnt a problem except the modification to the piping if you like to DIY you
should enjoy this. Only hard thing you may come across is removing the right hand side window thing.

Handy link on how to install :

http://type-r-owners.co.uk/forums/sh...ad.php?t=26070

Difference : This thing RAWRS like no other, once you hit 4th rev u start to hear the rawr, then vtec hits it scream so loud! I would say you can feel a big difference on the beginning gears, 1st 2nd and maybe 3rd.

Problems : The problem i have encountered is basically the clamps which it smudges against your injector wires which if you keep sliding can splice the wires, which i suggest to move the clamp from the left side to the right side.

Overall : Overall im happy with the product which i highly recommend it to any user looking for the ultimate performance mod for there car.

Rating : Cost vs Gain vs happiness, 10 out of 10

ENJOY!

great buy man. saw your car a week ago when i was in syd near the mobile next mt druitt rta, looking good man.

holly shit!! thats soo cheap!! whered u get it from??? dont forget to post up a review!!

thats cheap mayn!

thats cheap 835, they usually around the 1050

great work! props to you for doing your research, most prices for new jdm parts are overpriced here.

PS it aint BS.. i got mine ;D 3 days after!

I am using Mugen one, just thinking the difference bettween of Mugen and GruppM, i hope someone can give me some idea which one better~

man so tempting...

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Originally Posted by dyljoy

I am using Mugen one, just thinking the difference bettween of Mugen and GruppM, i hope someone can give me some idea which one better~

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Easily GruppeM

gruppe m is the shit!!

mugen is the poo....

Hi if anyone else is intersted PM me and we will get them. I live qld boarder. 3 people $700 each wow :)

the intake temp is like 5 degree different.....Gruppe-M is lower but if you drive in direct airflow it won't be much different.....

heheh good luck guys ;D to bad i couldnt advertise it before to get more people to buy at the same time... ill be installing it tmz (pub holiday)

gna fit it into my k&N piping (might have to do sum custom stuff) but should be fun

the filter it uses is k&N too :D

^review review

does it come wif GruppeM air firlter?

its a K&N filter

umm.... if u can, go for a quick run with ur current intake b4 you install ur GruppeM intake, say... drive in 3rd gear to redline and try to remember the top end power... then after installation, do the same with the GruppeM intake.... i think the majority of us know that the gruppeM shits all over the other intakes interms of reponse, but does it also provide the best top end out of all the intakes??

*finger crossed* that it doesnt rain tmz morning,

i will be installing it tmz, using the k&N pipe from current intake

will provide review :D and yeh ill give that a got mst_mugen

Wow... $700 is cheap~~
I wanna order 3. Looking to get 2 for DC5R and 1 for DC5S

Who should i contact? Possible to get further discount if more orders?

i want to order one for my dc5S too...

anyone from syd wanna organise?

hmm...this seems like it's going to get a little out of hand...
everyone will want to use this channel to make money by selling these.

better get onto Hoya and order one asap.

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Originally Posted by Tofu

hmm...this seems like it's going to get a little out of hand...
everyone will want to use this channel to make money by selling these.

better get onto Hoya and order one asap.

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ive been thinking the same thing...

hahah his a genuine guy which ive been dealing with for a bout 3 week making sure he aint a fraudster

ANYWAIZ ive installed it on this fu*n rainy day and WOW im so impressed at the output will update post #1

must keen mugen.... must not be talked in gruppe-M......

:p

even tho looking at that... i'm not to keen on the where the intake actully is.... rain would be a bitch

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Originally Posted by XP02ED

hahah his a genuine guy which ive been dealing with for a bout 3 week making sure he aint a fraudster

ANYWAIZ ive installed it on this fu*n rainy day and WOW im so impressed at the output will update post #1

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how u finding top end?? i guess its raining, so itd be hard to tell at this point.... would you consider putting on the plastic OEM rubber pipe and seeing how much of a difference the K&N pipe has over it???

did u have to modify the scoop or watever to open the bonnet??

ill let u knwo about top end once it clears up hehehe i cant tell u the difference with the piping as i dont have stock pipe

i didnt need to modify the scoop, it clears by about 3 mm

can rain get into the top scoop of intake.. that hangs out of bonnet?

How do they go for DC2R's?
Anyone looking to buy one for DC2R?
Maybe we can organise something.

Yeh thats what i thought to obsession, i did alot of research before buying

WHat happens is when water goes into the scoop, theres a gap which some water can fall out, the other the box has a design which the flow goes into like the box and it has like a bowl shape at the bottom with a hole which the excess water falls out of, if water goes through that theres the filter which ive hear people test it buy putting direct water from a hose and didnt have 1 problem

i have a question to the people who have the intake, does yours scream with OEM piping like a K&N SRI? (like an exhaust sound but screaming)

my mugen is still loud coming onto vtec... nothing like my K&N SRI.

my guess would be you have an opening on the window.... it would/should be loud :p

its meant to sound somewat like a supercharger...hehe

ok, i tested it out last night as the road was dry, all i can say is WOW! its a ****n beast. race my cuzin, we both with 18's similar rims, so no big difference on weight

his cars stock, so is mine, cept for the filter and dang 0-200kms at the lights i beat him by about 2-3 car lengths.

to make sure one isnt a big difference better driver we swapped cars and similar result in the 2-3 car lengths range

that's a huge difference
maybe perhaps when driving the one with the GruppeM the driver psychologically wanted to push harder...:P

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Originally Posted by Tofu

that's a huge difference
maybe perhaps when driving the one with the GruppeM the driver psychologically wanted to push harder...:P

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Still dreaming what different between stock DC5 with GruppM and Mugen intake...hoho

Mugen is better

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Originally Posted by XP02ED

ok, i tested it out last night as the road was dry, all i can say is WOW! its a ****n beast. race my cuzin, we both with 18's similar rims, so no big difference on weight

his cars stock, so is mine, cept for the filter and dang 0-200kms at the lights i beat him by about 2-3 car lengths.

to make sure one isnt a big difference better driver we swapped cars and similar result in the 2-3 car lengths range

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hows the response in low - mid end compared to stock?
any power gains in the top end?

Do you normally need to get your car tunned when you change your intake?

^ no tuning is required after you install your intake.

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Mugen is better

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personally i think Mugen intake with Mugen/Cwest front bumper>GruppeM>Mugen intake by itself.

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How do they go for DC2R's?
Anyone looking to buy one for DC2R?
Maybe we can organise something.

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apparently the intake for dc2r's arnt as good as the dc5r's, for the dc2r it's pretty much just a CF heat shield over the pod, getting a mugen intake would be a better way to spend the money. My 2c anyway

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Is the Injen CAI even comparable with the Gruppe-M. on a Stock new Type S?

injen works differently its a cool air intake... which sits at the front of your bumper rushes cold air in from there.. and to fit injen intake requires to take off your front bar... with the gruppe M just undo stock airbox and fit this 1 in its place.. sound wise is different too... gruppeM sounds alot better dunno about gains... i think gains would be similar...

XP02ED : the intake looks awesome. makes me want to get one too.

I think your airfilter mustn't be exposed (correct me if i'm wrong), so I don't think the injen one is legal (if that matters to you).

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XP02ED : the intake looks awesome. makes me want to get one too.

I think your airfilter mustn't be exposed (correct me if i'm wrong), so I don't think the injen one is legal (if that matters to you).

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The Injen CAI intake is half the price(inc install) of the GruppeM(no install) and You can't really see it in the enclosed space they fit it to.

Im sure you can get away with it.
Im just thinking about the $$$$ is the GruppeM really worth the noise Defect

Does it out perform the Injen??:o

You cant get defected for gruppeM as the pod is in a box covered and not exposed ... they both do similar things... just sound differences and where they sit ... overall they do the same thing ... It all comes down to what you can afford... $$ Overall i think the gruppeM is a better intake as you dont have to take the front bar off everytime u wanna clean it etc...

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Originally Posted by obsessionz

You cant get defected for gruppeM as the pod is in a box covered and not exposed ... they both do similar things... just sound differences and where they sit ... overall they do the same thing ... It all comes down to what you can afford... $$ Overall i think the gruppeM is a better intake as you dont have to take the front bar off every time u wanna clean it etc...

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So the noise from the GruppeM does not exceed the EPA's Regulations on Air intake noise, which is enfored by Police. Thats news to me, I didn't buy one cause my mate got Defected and he had a stock DC5S.

police can defect you for excessive noise if you drive erratically.
reguardless of what intake you have.

I think you will get a similar noise level from injen intake... but a different sound is produced with the gruppe M.. it sounds very unique compared to other intakes..... most intakes will make a loud noise... so if your gonna get defected it will happen with any of them... but if its in a box should be ok.... if you want it to be quiet go the mugen intake it is quiet ... and you get gains which your after .. Mugen intake is the one for you..

I'll get the Injen one if its possible to take the filter out from underneath the car.
If i remove that black cover maybe, ill have to investigate.
Oh how do i get a point i think im still new comer cause of that.

if you want to permenantly remove the black plastic near your front left wheel, the air filter will be exposed to water and debris. This will damage your filter and perhaps suck in water and make the filter dirtier than it needs to be.

the main diff your looking at from injen to mugen/gruppe M is the throttle response (thanks Tofu :P)

with the mugen/gruppe M they use the stock mounting point for the air filter. So throttle response is going to be sharp.

with the Injen system, the pipes comes off the throttle body, has a bend... then another, then another, then rests in front of the wheel.

so at the end of it... you have about 3-4 times more pipe then the other two.

I have never had a injen on my car, so i can't say if the throttle response is noticable or not... but this is something you have to look into.

If your short on cash and are keen to get a mugen/Gruppe M in the future, maybe do the hondata airbox mod (hacking away your stock airbox).

yeah, everything u want to get just depend on what u can affort, and i think if u are not a highly demand on gain power, just pick one of them u like~cheers

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cool~pls post it here when u done it, atm u using stock catback?

POST THE VIDEO YO!! get your mate to hold the camera standing outside of the car an u drive past hitting vtec y0!

i got an injen, i must say that the response of the car has slightly fallen low end, but ive heard this can be fixed after tuning. correct me if im wrong, just what i heard.

IMO the injen is bang for bucks for the gains your getting, and the extra money can be better spent on other mods. plus the lose of slight low end doesnt really bother me, i dont drive under 3000rpm anyways. though if you got the dosh, go the bling box gruppem! better yet go ITB's! *drools*

a thread that covers all three intakes ... might interest you guys
http://www.clubitr.com.au/forums/showthread.php?t=255

INjen is good bang for buck. Gruppe M is probably better but if ur budget is lower injen by no means is a shit intake mod. besides if the loss in low end is bothering you, get 4-2-1 header + exhaust

Ok i'll get a GruppeM. who is Hoya and how do i buy it

u have to order it from japan email him his email is on page 1 of the thread...

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well his email is hoya@gruppem.co.jp
but b4 i contact him is there anyone who is making an order or wants one. I mite ask Adrien from Toda Au

i want 1 ... but scared to send $800.00 to japan... and the package gets lost on the way or stolen? alot of money to risk..

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Cant go wrong with Ms intake... Mugen - Good. Ms - gives u more.

nice shot~

Hopefully oneday there will be some dyno charts of diferent intakes. That would be really helpfull

word of warning.

We do not allow group buys or any commercial style posting / sales outside the trade section.
Post up again , and you will be removed from this website.

Anyway , any more reviews of the gruppee m ?

Hey Guys thanks for telling me this was not aloud. I think this forum is a little Sensitive. I have 10 points now. dont know what I do with them.

how many of us users with gruppem use the heatshield?

im thinking of removing it as it looks ugly :D

i fitted the heatshield, i dont think it looks that bad! i wonder how much it actually does in terms off holding back heat, prob good to keep it on if you have aftermarket headers and no heatsheild for them.

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i fitted the heatshield, i dont think it looks that bad! i wonder how much it actually does in terms off holding back heat, prob good to keep it on if you have aftermarket headers and no heatsheild for them.

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Post a pic . what heat shield

Here is a picture (of the heat shield) i took while i was installing the intake,
hope this helps


http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u...heatshield.jpg

yeh im currently painting mine to same colour as spark plug cover looks good dont want it to be noticable :D

LOL @ ur taping :P

and i see ur using that plastic tube ;D i chucked mine hahaha

post pic of ur whole bay y0

The heat shield doesn't bother me, so will leave it as is. As for the tape on the heatshield i put that there to save scratching while installing. I found that foam tape breaks apart with friction on the strutbrace, hence why i put 3m friction tape over the foam. Doesnt seem to break apart as quickly as the foam tape supplied :D Will post up pics soon, still waiting on some more bits ;)

SO who has had this fitted after an Injen CAI?

I am interested to see over all difference between the two.

Nice writeup.

Have you had it dyno tested yet?

no dyno just yet, but from what ive researched, no point dynoying with a gruppem as it doesnt show the gain on dyno ;D