Civic Type R Owners With Third Gear Issues Please Read

After owning my FN2 for a week and having third gear 'pop out' about five times a day I called my dealer today to discuss the problem. They in turn called Honda Australia who suprisingly have never heard of the problem that Honda UK have now acknowledged, and even went as far to say that the gentleman responsible for dealing with these problems only just returned from the UK last week and even he has never heard of the problem. Furthermore, there has not been one report of the problem from a customer at this stage.

My dealer has suggested that they have a look at the car at the 1000km service and that if they witness the problem then they can report it, but at this stage that is all they can do. However, I am far from satisfied with this solution, because after spending over $40,000 surely I could expect that someone at Honda Australia could contact Honda UK ask if there has been any reported problems, instead of simply writing off my researched information as internet heresay.

I guess that Australian owners may have to report the problem to customer service in the same way as UK owners have and by weight of numbers Honda Australia may actually take note and realise that there is a problem. I am going to call the customer relations freecall number on 1800 804 954 ASAP to officially report the problem to get the ball rolling. If anyone is having the same problem please call the freecall number and also post in this thread, and hopefully we can get something done.
Waz

does this apply to DC5 TypeS?
Does anyone know if the DC5 TypeS has the same gearbox as the UK CTR?

I get exactly the same symptoms and talked to my dealer today at my 30,000km service. They say they took a look at the internals (clutch and flywheel) and they didn't see anything and couldn't fault it...will have to go for a test drive and see if it happens during the drive.

wazza obviously your problem is worst than mine. Mine pops only when the gear box is cold maybe at the first 10 minutes of driving and thats about it. What i have problem with now is the paint job, they chip way too easily

that's bad, you don't expect brand new cars to have gearbox problems like that...

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Originally Posted by Tofu

does this apply to DC5 TypeS?
Does anyone know if the DC5 TypeS has the same gearbox as the UK CTR?

I get exactly the same symptoms and talked to my dealer today at my 30,000km service. They say they took a look at the internals (clutch and flywheel) and they didn't see anything and couldn't fault it...will have to go for a test drive and see if it happens during the drive.

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Unfortunately no. I am wishing to raise awareness with Honda Australia of the documented third gear problem in the Civic Type R, if you wish to do the same for the DC5S separately then please feel free to do so....

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Originally Posted by sitta

wazza obviously your problem is worst than mine. Mine pops only when the gear box is cold maybe at the first 10 minutes of driving and thats about it. What i have problem with now is the paint job, they chip way too easily

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I live in Tasmania though mate, it is always cold, hence why third gear always pops out. At the end of the day, I think we can have certain expectations when buying a brand new car, and you should not even have to accept that when the car is cold you will have problems with third gear.

I cannot agree more with the paint work, soft, soft, soft.... At present I have one chip from one week of ownership, so say in three years I will have a completely metal bonnet like a Delorean, I will be happy as long as I can travel through time too....

I cannot agree more with the paint work, soft, soft, soft.... At present I have one chip from one week of ownership, so say in three years I will have a completely metal bonnet like a Delorean, I will be happy as long as I can travel through time too....[/QUOTE]

hehe the delorean:p

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Originally Posted by Wazza

Unfortunately no. I am wishing to raise awareness with Honda Australia of the documented third gear problem in the Civic Type R, if you wish to do the same for the DC5S separately then please feel free to do so....

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what I am trying to say is if the gearbox is the same part number as the TypeS, then this way we might have more numbers to bring to Honda Australia.

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Originally Posted by Wazza

I live in Tasmania though mate, it is always cold, hence why third gear always pops out. At the end of the day, I think we can have certain expectations when buying a brand new car, and you should not even have to accept that when the car is cold you will have problems with third gear.

I cannot agree more with the paint work, soft, soft, soft.... At present I have one chip from one week of ownership, so say in three years I will have a completely metal bonnet like a Delorean, I will be happy as long as I can travel through time too....

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one chip is alright i guess, in my 3-4 weeks of ownership i have hundreds of chips on my bonet and front bumper

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Originally Posted by sitta

one chip is alright i guess, in my 3-4 weeks of ownership i have hundreds of chips on my bonet and front bumper

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Im betta than you...in 2 weeks of ownership, i have three chips on my bonnet:(

Just made the call to honda hotline provided above
was told he will send an email to honda head office
and I will be contacted shortly regarding the matter
as much as I hate it, guess we shall have to sit this one out

I made the call on Saturday and was promised that a representative would return my call early in the week, so i guess i will give them until Thursday and then call again....

Has anyone else made the call yet?

just picked up my FN2 for nearly 3 weeks time so far...havent yet got the 3rd gear problem

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Originally Posted by GupZ

just picked up my FN2 for nearly 3 weeks time so far...havent yet got the 3rd gear problem

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I have had the FN2 for almost a week an haven't had the issue either, so I wondering whether it is just a certain group of cars with the problem. Although in the morning I leave my car idling for maybe about 5 minutes before taking off and maybe this has helped remedy the problem, as everyone has posted the problem has occured only when the engine is cold. If problems are still occuring only thing I can suggest is letting the Honda mechanics have a look at it. From what I have been reading in some of the UK forums the problem is quite frequent in the earlier models of the Civic although in the more recent models not as much, however they have all said that it is a problem only when the car is cold.

if your bonnet and bumper are chipin easly you should take it to a spray painter get the affected areas "stone Gaured" and painted, will work a treat

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I Although in the morning I leave my car idling for maybe about 5 minutes before taking off

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That is not a good idea. It is better for you car to reach normal temp quickly by driving moderately until the engine has warmed up. Don't let it idle for more than 1 minute when it is cold

Whys that? Interested cause I do the same thing...

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Whys that? Interested cause I do the same thing...

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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...dlearticle.jpg

Taken from Kazaf.

i've had my CTR for over a month now and this incident hasnt occured on my car as well. will have to keep an eye on it.

There is laws against idling LOL!

Even in ur car manual it says its best to only idle for 30 secs to 1 min, then drive of, even in the coldest weather.

I showed my friend, who drives a DC2R, my car manual and he still won't listen... :(

gezzz Type R civics should be called the New Excels now aye?
I know huyundai had alot of problems with their GB when they first came out.

I'm suprise they haven't just gotten their mechanic to look at it and fix the problem.

Geez you learn something new everyday.

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Originally Posted by Limbo

gezzz Type R civics should be called the New Excels now aye?

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Always an extremist in the community...every car has minor problems when they get released.

well, you'd think better made cars will have less faults...

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well, you'd think better made cars will have less faults...

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Yes well my mother had a Mercedes Benz and it had problems when it first came out aswell...its just a fact of life, not everything comes out of a production line perfect there is bound to be faults in every car you buy..you just have to hope that the faults are minimal.

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Yes well my mother had a Mercedes Benz and it had problems when it first came out aswell...its just a fact of life, not everything comes out of a production line perfect there is bound to be faults in every car you buy..you just have to hope that the faults are minimal.

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Got a frd who bought a VTI jazz 2-3 years ago, she also gots some minor problems wiv her brand new car, and have gone back to the dealers for part replacement.

So there are possiblities for brand new cars to be faults, sometimes it depends on your luckiness.

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So there are possiblities for brand new cars to be faults, sometimes it depends on your luckiness.

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Thats true...lets just hope they can mend this problem quite quickly as apart from that I haven't seen any other problems with the car.

Just got a call back from Honda customer service
they advise that anyone who has had a problem
bring the car back to the dealer to get it checked out and verified
and Insist that the dealers raise a 'Quality Report'
he told me that he hasnt received enough of these reports to warant a fix.

I believe there was a way to bring out the problem on the CTR forum?
"You can actually make the gear do standing still with the engine off, the technician at my Honda dealer actually found this out. if you keep going in and out of 3rd lifting the clutch now and then the problem is bound to happen in like 1 out 10 tries."

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Originally Posted by Chris_typer

Thats true...lets just hope they can mend this problem quite quickly as apart from that I haven't seen any other problems with the car.

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sure, i can accept new cars will have problems, but having problems with minor things compared to having this gearbox problem is rather different won't you say?

this is a serious problem as far as i'm concerned. And Honda pride themselves on their manual gearbox...:(

I received the call back from customer service yesterday and the representative too insisted that I return to my dealer to verify the problem and if the problem is found a report can be lodged. I explained about the situation in the UK, with Honda UK acknowledging the problem and that a fix was being released mid August, and then insisted that the representative contact Honda UK to find out the exact situation for me...

My words included ''I am very surprised that no one at Honda Australia is aware of this" and "Just taking my car to my dealer is not a good enough solution, can you contact Honda UK for me?"

So the representative will be contacting me again tomorrow (hopefully) with more information.

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Originally Posted by Wazza

I received the call back from customer service yesterday and the representative too insisted that I return to my dealer to verify the problem and if the problem is found a report can be lodged. I explained about the situation in the UK, with Honda UK acknowledging the problem and that a fix was being released mid August, and then insisted that the representative contact Honda UK to find out the exact situation for me...

My words included ''I am very surprised that no one at Honda Australia is aware of this" and "Just taking my car to my dealer is not a good enough solution, can you contact Honda UK for me?"

So the representative will be contacting me again tomorrow (hopefully) with more information.

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Hope you can get it fixed buddy...hasn't happened to mine yet and hope it never does..but hopefully Honda can do something for you, there usually pretty good.

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Originally Posted by Limbo

gezzz Type R civics should be called the New Excels now aye?
I know huyundai had alot of problems with their GB when they first came out.

I'm suprise they haven't just gotten their mechanic to look at it and fix the problem.

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DC5R had a similar problem with their 2nd gear.

Give it time, as these cars a really new in Aus. Only a small portion of the people that actually have the problem would have written in with regards to to the issue.

How many people here have now reported the problem to Honda Australia?

u should be able to find the honda service bulletin on the net.. from honda.

print it out if one exist and go WTF.. u dont know jack shit, i want a new car

Well I called Honda Australia this week on the 3rd Gear issue - was told they didnt have any details on it. Besides the car Spec was different from UK or other countries - So that basically put an end to any further assistance from them, take it to the dealer to look at....been there done that.....

Is there a Specific tech Bulletin on this in the UK ?

Just a question - I cant recreate the issue by parking up and just throwing in 3rd gear .....seems to occur more in the high rev bound, doesent engage properly and your end up grinding and looking stupid.

My car went into the dealer today for its 1000km service with the objective of recreating the third gear problem. After half an hour of the service advisor trying to recreate the problem with me in the car we gave up and headed back to the dealership. So at this stage my case has been reported to Honda's Tech Department who are only acknowledging that a few phone calls have been received about the issue, but no issue has physically been recorded. My only comfort came when the service advisor assurred me that when Honda UK release the ''fix pack'' and if in turn it becomes available in Australia that they will fix my car by taking my word for it, and will not actually have to witness the problem for themselves.

I was just counting how many of us have experienced the problem between here and the UK forums, the list so far...

Wazza
Sitta
Lukits01
Scollops
Bluedog
Edd
Firejack018
BF52
Moons (Test Drive)

Please let me know if you are using a different username on each forum and I have doubled up

At a guess if Honda Australia have sold approximately 100 CTR's then almost 10% of owners are experiencing the issue, so call Honda customer service guys....

ay manz goodluck with gettin the problem fixed.

probably not a main problem with the CTRs.
jst a couple rare ones that doesnt turn out so good.
guess youre just one of the unlucky ones :/

i work on some euro/german cars n sum have an uncommon fault that are found in only some cars.
bt yeh .. some dealerships arent much help ay?
all they care abt it is, you bought the car, they have the money, full stop.

well again, goodluck man.

Hi guys, picked up my CTR on Friday and I have noticed that there is a resistance in getting the car into 3rd gear. My '02 ITR suffered a similar problem with 2nd gear brand new so I figured it was just "growing pains" of running in a new vehicle.

I'm yet to experience a pop out at this stage but now that I have read this thread I will pay closer attention to it. Thanks for sharing your experiences guys.

I for one feel as if I've been a test monkey with this new car given the experience I've had with certain aspects of general ownership and accessory installs so far. I must admit though, it is a love hate relationship. Wrinkles aside it is a pleasure to drive and I'm happy I decided to purchase one.

The downsides of early adoption :(

Hey Glen,

Its Adrian here - I think i test drove your (red?) ITR a few weekends back - you met me at my work.

Reason I didn't call back was... I changed my mind, I bought a Black CTR instead :)

Pick it up today..... what issues have you had with it ?

aij-

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Originally Posted by Gleny AUS

Hi guys, picked up my CTR on Friday and I have noticed that there is a resistance in getting the car into 3rd gear. My '02 ITR suffered a similar problem with 2nd gear brand new so I figured it was just "growing pains" of running in a new vehicle.

I'm yet to experience a pop out at this stage but now that I have read this thread I will pay closer attention to it. Thanks for sharing your experiences guys.

I for one feel as if I've been a test monkey with this new car given the experience I've had with certain aspects of general ownership and accessory installs so far. I must admit though, it is a love hate relationship. Wrinkles aside it is a pleasure to drive and I'm happy I decided to purchase one.

The downsides of early adoption :(

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So whats the resident dealer's take on all this?

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seems to occur more in the high rev bound, doesent engage properly and your end up grinding and looking stupid.

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hey this 3r gear thing happened to me while i was test driving the demo car.
looked like a real noob and apologised for it but good to know that it wasn't my fault.

cheers for the updates guys! keep em comin plz.
gonna hold out on buying mine til i see that this issue has some sort of resolution.
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Goodluck to you all. I feel your pain however I wouldnt get my hopes up with Honda Australia. I have found that their aftersales service has dramatically fallen over the past few years.

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So whats the resident dealer's take on all this?

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keep silence .... :)

they just want to sell you one and do not mention 3rd gear issue at all.

every dealer saying that CTR is in great demand and everyone has to put a deposit right now !

but Honda Australia sales figures are not available yet for the last two months - it would be interesting to know how many CTR have been sold ...

I would not be suprised that they are selling than 120 estimated figure per moth.

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Hey Glen,

Its Adrian here - I think i test drove your (red?) ITR a few weekends back - you met me at my work.

Reason I didn't call back was... I changed my mind, I bought a Black CTR instead :)

Pick it up today..... what issues have you had with it ?

aij-

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Hi Adrian, yep, one in the same ;) No woz mate, as you were fully aware I had already started the trade process so no harm done. Dammit, at least you could've done is text! ;) j/k...

Not to send the thread spiraling off topic, the car is brilliant. It drives well, it sits well and it's more comfortable than the ITR plus I get all my "creature comforts" back. My main concern is the accessories. The Honda iPod kit disables your iPod and you can't change this and the Honda Bluetooth car kit only projects sound out of the LHS speaker. Anyone considering these accessories GO 3RD PARTY! They are not worth the Honda inflated costs and 3rd party will better suit your needs...

if it's at all relevant, the american civic si coupes are well-known for similar problems with 3rd gear:
Third gear not fully engaging/popping out...

more threads on 3rd gear problems:
3rd Gear Just Got Crazy on Me...
3rd gear problems poll
Third Gear Getting Worse..

Well, picked my car up, and yeah, i too notice its "stiff" getting into 3rd... unless i slam it in.

It happens during up AND down shifting, also noticed the "two clicks" to get it into 3rd. hasn't popped out for me either, i don't think its THAT bad of a problem... not yet anyway...

Hi, guys. I bought new CTR one week ago. After done almost 1000k, it seems that mine also has the 3rd gear problem. Hard to push in, and sometimes pop out.

After read all your posts, I decide to call OZ honda and see what they say. It is a pain to have a new car with problem especially gear shifts.

Thanks, Wazza.:wave:

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Originally Posted by KurtKLiu

Hi, guys. I bought new CTR one week ago. After done almost 1000k, it seems that mine also has the 3rd gear problem. Hard to push in, and sometimes pop out.

After read all your posts, I decide to call OZ honda and see what they say. It is a pain to have a new car with problem especially gear shifts.

Thanks, Wazza.:wave:

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Really weird I haven't noticed mine do that yet and ive done almost 1500km's..think its done it once the whole time I've had but that was when it was cold. Hope you guys can get it fixed soon.

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Originally Posted by Chris_typer

Really weird I haven't noticed mine do that yet and ive done almost 1500km's..think its done it once the whole time I've had but that was when it was cold. Hope you guys can get it fixed soon.

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x 2 here :eek:

Ive done 3000 Kms ...and the car is getting better and better.
I am absolutely convinced by that ;)

I agree, I've had the car for 5000km
The problem is getting less and less frequent
maybe its just me adjusting to how I drive the car
It seems this habbit has been built into the honda gearbox since forever
Talking to other honda enthusiast driving EG, Ek, DC2/5s. They all have their own little quirks with their gearbox.

Took the FN2R to the track over the weekend, got an instructor to drive it.
http://www.sendspace.com/file/tc3zdw
He didnt miss a beat. In fact he was utterly amazed by the quality of the gearbox. Hence from this day forth, I shall never ever complain about 3rd Gear ever again ahhaha

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I agree, I've had the car for 5000km
The problem is getting less and less frequent
maybe its just me adjusting to how I drive the car
It seems this habbit has been built into the honda gearbox since forever
Talking to other honda enthusiast driving EG, Ek, DC2/5s. They all have their own little quirks with their gearbox.

Took the FN2R to the track over the weekend, got an instructor to drive it.
http://www.sendspace.com/file/tc3zdw
He didnt miss a beat. In fact he was utterly amazed by the quality of the gearbox. Hence from this day forth, I shall never ever complain about 3rd Gear ever again ahhaha

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Yeah man that video is awesome...goto take mine to the track soon..he was given it some ay..how did it feel? Did it handle really well? and did he have the ESP on?

I can't download the vid. It always says capacity full.

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I can't download the vid. It always says capacity full.

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Uploading it onto YouTube so you can see it..hopefully that works for ya. Post link in a sec once it is done

The car felt great!
first thing they told us was "Turn off all electronic aids, it creates nothing but idiot drivers" ahhaha
Can get the tail out pretty easily on corner entry, and very controllable
Although corner exit is lacking IMHO. Probably due to the lack of LSD. It tends to run wide if you're early on the throttle. Hope to fix this soon.

The gearbox was brilliant! never missed a gear going into 3rd, although I did mishift a few times trying to upshift into 4th, this was more due to my illtimed footwork more than anything.

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The car felt great!
first thing they told us was "Turn off all electronic aids, it creates nothing but idiot drivers" ahhaha
Can get the tail out pretty easily on corner entry, and very controllable
Although corner exit is lacking IMHO. Probably due to the lack of LSD. It tends to run wide if you're early on the throttle. Hope to fix this soon.

The gearbox was brilliant! never missed a gear going into 3rd, although I did mishift a few times trying to upshift into 4th, this was more due to my illtimed footwork more than anything.

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Nice. Were you trying to shift fast into 4th? Would be better to just shift it in normally because 4th gear means you are on a straight or a long curve. Shifting quickly won't cut your time as much as if you were in a slower corner and in a lower gear.

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Uploading it onto YouTube so you can see it..hopefully that works for ya. Post link in a sec once it is done

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Thanks. You should recompress it as 87MB is too big for a vid that short. Resize it to 400x300.

Lol nothin but idiot drivers...

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Thanks. You should recompress it as 87MB is too big for a vid that short. Resize it to 400x300

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Doesn't matter I've already uploaded it..awaiting the video approval and will post it as soon as possible.

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Doesn't matter I've already uploaded it..awaiting the video approval and will post it as soon as possible.

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I meant for the one that you uploaded in full.

For youtube, they will recompress it for you after you upload anyway. The downside of youtube is that the sound quality also suffers.

Civic on the track - click here

there it is for you boys...enjoy.

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Civic on the track - click here

there it is for you boys...enjoy.

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Thanks!!!!:thumbsup:

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Goodluck to you all. I feel your pain however I wouldnt get my hopes up with Honda Australia. I have found that their aftersales service has dramatically fallen over the past few years.

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I second that fellas, have had my fair share of crappy aftersales crap from honda aust, has got me know where. ( my car a lemon :( )

They obviously feeling the pinch of not enough sales, heads might roll so denial denial denial, no leeks, very tight nit group, collaboration btw Honda Aust. and dealerships at it's best...there stories always match ( Even if it's WHITE, they say no it's BLACK !! )

Wish you guys all the best.....

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I second that fellas, have had my fair share of crappy aftersales crap from honda aust, has got me know where. ( my car a lemon :( )

They obviously feeling the pinch of not enough sales, heads might roll so denial denial denial, no leeks, very tight nit group, collaboration btw Honda Aust. and dealerships at it's best...there stories always match ( Even if it's WHITE, they say no it's BLACK !! )

Wish you guys all the best.....

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After sales in most automotive companies is quite poor...for instance my mother has Mercedes 4WD and shes had nothing but pathetic service from Mercedes. The people that sold her the car initially don't handle any of the after sales queries and you get nothing but poor service from the service staff. I'm not defending Honda, but it seems to be a problem in most companies at the moment, but then again I am yet to see poor after sales from Honda..hopefully I don't but I can see where your coming from.

LOL, he loves your gearbox. hehehe.
Did you take any vids of your driving?

Yea, I got chase car cam view
anyone want to upload it to youtube?

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Yea, I got chase car cam view
anyone want to upload it to youtube?

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Yeah sure..just send us a link where I can download it from and will do it for you.

dunno if this link has been posted on any other threads yet but i found it from a civic forum:

http://honda-tech.com/zerothread/2012058

Ok here you are boys, all the video's from lukits track run:

In-car cam

Outside car cam

Chase car cam

In-car cam 2 - nightrun

There pretty good..so check them out. Enjoy.

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Ok here you are boys, all the video's from lukits track run:

In-car cam

Outside car cam

Chase car cam

In-car cam 2 - nightrun

There pretty good..so check them out. Enjoy.

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cheers buddy
I posted a thread in the Gallery section
seeing that this is becoming unrelated to the topic of this thread hehe

Sorry to get back to the topic at hand, but has anyone received any more information on the third gear issue?

Notchy 2nd & 3rd gear is becoming a honda trend these days... Honda Australia have the worst service. You tell them about Honda overseas have notified the problem... and they say we havent heard of it.. I hate how they act dumb. Get the problem fixed before you continue selling more honda's with dodgy gear box's

Hi Guys ... newbie to the this forum.

I came across this forum the night before I went for my much anticipated test drive of the Type R.

I would have purchased the car that day but this 3rd gear problem left me thinking that it would be better to wait till it is sorted out .. especially as I live in the colder climate of Canberra where this could be an issue.

I've been in two minds since, with posts (here and on the UK forum) indicating that it is not such a serious problem while other posts such as above indicating that it is.

The UK forum indicates that a fix is available late Sep to Oct.

I hope they sort it out as I cant wait to get one.

Report it on the 1st service - and every other service after until something gets done.

Service will have the submit PQR's to Honda Australia that WILL pend on drivers feedback.

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Notchy 2nd & 3rd gear is becoming a honda trend these days... Honda Australia have the worst service. You tell them about Honda overseas have notified the problem... and they say we havent heard of it.. I hate how they act dumb. Get the problem fixed before you continue selling more honda's with dodgy gear box's

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Get off your high horse oh high and honourable Honda driver. Not everyone in Honda Service sits online a Honda global orgy to nitpick every issue about every model of Honda. I'm sure they have lives outside of work. When they say "I haven't heard anything about it", it most likely means "Honda Australia does not have it listed anywhere therfore I haven't heard anything about it".

As for getting the problem fixed before they sell more dodgy Honda's - What is Honda meant to do? Halt all production of the vehicle - despite the huge demand? Keep your protest up in a forum and it just might happen....NOT!

Does anyone think before they type? More constipation of the brain; and diarrea of the mouth I'd say.

For your information, this issue has occured in both models DC5R, EP3, S2000 and now the new CTR. Ive emailed honda japan about this issue and got a written response saying they have never heard of the issue.. Honda Australia then was in contact with me stateing that they have never heard of the issue either.

Below are links with over 50 pages of people with the same problem from the states & Australia with people with problems with their dc5r gear box.

So actually before you say something do some research... as hundreds of people around the world have this very same issue... so keep your comments to yourself unless you actually know about this issue. As i know much more about this problem then you do. Obviously you have no idea & Honda needs to fix this issue before releasing more cars as it continues from 2001 - 2007


http://forums.clubrsx.com/showthread.php?t=127026

http://www.clubitr.com.au/forums/sho...light=2nd+gear

http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthr...=dc5r+2nd+gear

http://www.petitiononline.com/RSXgrind/petition.html

S2000-there are k20/6speed cars all over the world with various problems, from notchy 2nd when cold to gears popping out and 3rd gear issues.
these cars ranging from DC5R (AUDM & JDM), RSX-S, EP3R.

thers is not a single forum relating to any of these cars that i have read that dont talk about the varuious issues relating to the gearboxes of these cars.
there must be 1000's if not 10000's of cars (worldwide) with dramas and Honda Aus had done **** all about it

and to date there are TSB's in both the USA and UK realting to these problems. to date i havent been able to confirm if theres a TSB for the DC5R (JDM). and there absolutely nothing from Honda Aus. Honda Australia wont even look at the TSB's...

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Originally Posted by s2o0o

Get off your high horse oh high and honourable Honda driver. Not everyone in Honda Service sits online a Honda global orgy to nitpick every issue about every model of Honda. I'm sure they have lives outside of work. When they say "I haven't heard anything about it", it most likely means "Honda Australia does not have it listed anywhere therfore I haven't heard anything about it".

As for getting the problem fixed before they sell more dodgy Honda's - What is Honda meant to do? Halt all production of the vehicle - despite the huge demand? Keep your protest up in a forum and it just might happen....NOT!

Does anyone think before they type? More constipation of the brain; and diarrea of the mouth I'd say.

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Your wrong !!

Maybe honda need to trial the car longer before the release...seems like Honda has a bit of pressure to release there cars because their competion seems to be throwing cars at us ;)

If they do this then they'll have no problems, and then we won't complain all happy, instead they doing a microsoft on us-----> release the product and report problems, then fix. Consumers these days demand a good product especially off Honda and especially if you pay $40,000 + for a car. It is a Honda at the end of the day, not a KIA.

All those who bought their FN2Rs, Honda Australia should send you a survey to complete and also give you a checkup call about a week after purchase. You must let them know about the 3rd gear at that time.

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Originally Posted by aaronng

All those who bought their FN2Rs, Honda Australia should send you a survey to complete and also give you a checkup call about a week after purchase. You must let them know about the 3rd gear at that time.

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Yeah your totally right Aaronng....go to your dealership aswell and demand it fixed....even better go there (dealership) armed with copies of this thread tell them not to bullshit because the cat is out of the bag, thanks once again to ozhonda and it's members. Get your service manager to call Honda head office while you there. Call head office aswell put in a complaint yourself too. Don't leave till you get answers....:thumbsup:

Also send heaps of emails so you have proof that you did contact them....important because these ppl will deny everything...I have had my own issues with these guys at honda, they practice dirty tactics.

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Originally Posted by s2o0o

Get off your high horse oh high and honourable Honda driver. Not everyone in Honda Service sits online a Honda global orgy to nitpick every issue about every model of Honda. I'm sure they have lives outside of work. When they say "I haven't heard anything about it", it most likely means "Honda Australia does not have it listed anywhere therfore I haven't heard anything about it".

As for getting the problem fixed before they sell more dodgy Honda's - What is Honda meant to do? Halt all production of the vehicle - despite the huge demand? Keep your protest up in a forum and it just might happen....NOT!

Does anyone think before they type? More constipation of the brain; and diarrea of the mouth I'd say.

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would you pay $40,000+ for something that you knew had faults with it?

if a company continue'd to produce the product knowing that it had the fault and something bad happened then they could be done for negligence.

i hope they dont ignore their customers coz all it takes is 1 rooted thing to take a good brand spiraling down. I've always had the view that honda produced really good vehicles but i dont think this 3rd gear issue is something that i would be satisfied with if i bought a CTR.

and of course honda know that the issue exists... sif they don't? they just gotta be careful about how they deal with it in order to not tarnish their rep.