hey guys need your help on what coilovers to choose from tein or buddy club? anyone have coil overs let me know
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hey guys need your help on what coilovers to choose from tein or buddy club? anyone have coil overs let me know
also need tips on lowering my car i found out i need to change some center bushes? or clamps to have the tyre wear evenly and i might need new mounts or something
Which model Tein and which model Buddy clubs?
Tyre wear is Dependant on the wheel alignment, or are you talking about the driveshaft spacers, which are made to prolong the life of your driveshafts.
depends on what your needing coil overs for? if its for looks then might as well jsut lower them on king springs honestly. lol
but if your looking for racing use and also streeting then thats different.
BC coilovers are always good, also BC have great customer service, i remember my friends one started to leak just after a few months (factory defect) and he took it into a BC distributor shop, they looked at it, and they replaced it immediately on the spot!
Tiens may be good for day to day as you can get the EDFC which gives you control from the drivers seat.
but then it all depends on the aplications you need, street, racing, or showboat.
let us know more and we can give you more advise
hmmm mainly for street comfortable daily driver without any problems even tyre wear
If you are lowering car for street, I would recommend some springs. No point forking out that much just for street driving. Tyre wear is affected by your wheel alignment, which you would have to do after you install springs. But if you must get coilovers, Get whatever is cheapest, doesn't have to be tein or bc.
^ its like vyet said, no need for coils for daily comfortable driving; if its just for lowering springs will do more then enough. but also if it has to be coil overs, just go with D2, they go for around 800-950 or soo.
mate,
Get coilovers, if you get kings, you will have to eventually get new shocks, and the price of a spring/shock combo is about as much as you'd expect to pay for coilovers.
go to www.titanmotorsport.com in the usa, alot of hondas in australia are riding on teins purchased from this supplier.
Also, these coilovers ( ithink most are) are adjustable, therefore if you feel the ride height is too high or low, it is easily changed.
Tyre wear will occur on any lowered suspension (lowered a fair bit over 1.5 id say)
this is due to the toe being out and also the degree of negative camber, whenever you change the height of your car, get a wheel alignment.
this means, if you decide you want adjustable coilovers, every time you change the height, the toe will be out of alignment again, therefore becoming a major factor in affecting tyre wear.
Camber kits are also a pretty good option, however a 4 wheel thrust alignment after any suspension drop is ideal.
tein basics, or ss are usually pretty good.
basics allow for height adjustability and are an entry level coilover setup, however are very good for price
ss (superstreet) are height adjustable, and damper adjustable, meaning you can change the softness of your suspension setup.
My advice, go for coilovers any day of the week, they are ideally far better than any spring/shock combo, however you wont be dissapointed with a decent spring shock combo, something like a koni yellow (adjustable) and a k-mac spring setup would be good, even using kyb gas socks is an option.
Look around, see what other s2000 owners have done, compare ride heights and their opinions and then make up your mind,
regards
Sean
Any type of spring you will eventually need new shocks because they will wear out, same principle applies with coilovers, they will sooner or later require a rebuild.
Getting an entry level coilover setup like Tein superstreet would be a good idea, they are soft and good for the street, I wouldn't say they would Improve your handling at all, let alone handle better then stock.
Not sure if they make the SS or basics for s2000 but? Never bothered looking for them.
I don't recommend king springs at all, worse springs ever. Get some Espelir, Eibach or Spoons.
yes however as far as I am aware, coilover setup is much more reliable and offers better handling than a shock/spring setup would.
Also , coilovers would improve handling, especially around corners, and as the tein superstreet offers damper adjustability, I personally think it would be a suitable buy.
However i am an accord owner, and there may be different variables I have left out.
I agree with vyets, dont get kings, they are probably the cheapest and worst quality.
If you want something around the same price, look at k-macs or whitelines, both made in Aus.
regards
sean
i only mentioned kings as a punchline, if he wants handling action go to coilovers, if its for day to day use get springs.
have u guys ever heard of a brand called fightex?
I wouldnt reccomend springs regardless.
mechanically they are no where near the quality of a coilover system.
But the price difference may influence your decision.
My opinion, spend the money the first time and get coilovers, you wont have as many hassles.
Sean
p.s. havent heard of that brand.
Those brands are german/japanese brand their quality is pretty good. i got eibach spring on mine and they do good job on da street, but will be too soft for track use.
Base level coilovers will sooo not improve your handling over the stock suspension setup. The stock setup is that good, to improve it it's going to cost big bucks. Springs should last you until you sell your car.
I'm not a fan of springs/cut/compressed, or entry level coilovers for the s2k, but for his application springs is highly recommended. Yea, for an accord getting springs might greatly reduce the suspension performance, but don't underestimate the s2000 showa shocks.
Entry level coilovers can never match the performance of a stock s2000.
But his not after performance, he wants to be slammed, and stock shocks sitting on springs should last until he gets rid of the car anyway. Just dont go ridiciously low, even with coils they will just upset ur handling.
yeh as vyets said, springs will do for his application, no need to overkill it.
what is your budget?
What will you be using it for?
IMO this topic has been discussed numerous times but here it is again....
If you only plan to use the car for street use and no tracking then just buy the cheaper brand coilovers like D2, HSD, or Racing logic. They perform well for street and allow you to drop your car quite low as well as offering various spring rates. I had D2 coiliovers in the past for my S2000 and they were great for street. They are simply bang for buck coils, you can buy them on ebay for about 1k shipped.
No need to go out and buy tein, BC, toda and all those other jdm bling brands just for street. Simply overkill, also with the jap brands some come with stiffer spring rates.
Someone mentioned, just drop it on king springs....King springs are quite ok for just street. I ran this setup before lowered about 2.5", was quite comfy but the car handled like shit. Also in the long run your shocks will die. Another combo to check out is running koni yellows + Ground control kit. Works out to just over 1k all up. Puts some big name coilovers to shame.
People often underestimate top spring+shock combos, yet overrate entry level coilovers :P
FLY-
No need to go out and buy tein, BC, toda and all those other jdm bling brands just for street. Simply overkill, also with the jap brands some come with stiffer spring rates.
Fly, teins are as cheap as D2s, and correct me if im wrong but i thought d2s were illegal in aus.
www.titanmotorsport.com
shipped from usa, basics- $800US superstreet-$1200US
the above prices include shipping.
S2K prices may be different but its still bang for ur buck, and alot safer then spending 1grand on ebay.
Sean
yvets, it all depends where your budget lies.
A good shock/spring combo could cost you well in excess of 1grand, considering the price of say konis.
By the time you spend that much , a decent (cheapish) set of coilovers *for instance tein ss) for 1300au, it becomes a decision on what you should get coilovers of shock/springs.
Im not saying a decent set of shocks/springs wouldnt be sufficient, however from all I have heard, and experiences with people who have had both, I do not think ive ever heard anybody complaining about a decent/semi decent set of coilovers.
by the way, yvets, a 14 year old accord with anything will improve its sussy, LOL
Compared to a much newer s2k , obviously there would be a great improvement in handling, so as i said in my previous post, there will be factors i have missed between the two cars
Anyways, Its up to you, just explore your options, see how much your willing to spend, how long you will have it, your day to day driving etc.
I'd stay away from kings, heard many bad stories. Plus there are so many brands similar in price which Are apparently a hell of alot better.
Sean
I have Koni + Eibach. Suit me very well.
I don't have the need for coils since I don't do very many track days at all, so it would hardly benefit me if I did.
My Koni's are like new. Only put them in 1 month before I lost my license. haha.
hey mate i wouldnt preffer kingsprings have had them before and they are pretty soft, also casue shocks to die out more quick, im running kmac springs in the s2k, sits good isnt too bumpy but it handled better when it was stock, know my shocks are starting to go i wish i just got coilovers, that way i could also adjust the ride hieght, its probally well worth getting coilovers just dont go full into then like fly said just get some bit basic unless your going on the track.