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Go through thread for offset help!
Way too aggressive IMO.
8" on the front and only +35 will look crap. I run 8" front +40 and it still doesn't look right front on.
Few others may say otherwise....
I run 18x8+55 on the front and 18x9+60 at the rear. They are a perfect fit.
And no more cookies thanks. I'm putting on weight.
They fit perfect because you're allowing for 20mm more than the OP 8" +35mm by having +55mm
Umm, yep. That was kinda my point.
ok so what sort of offset and size should i be looking at to achieve the aggressive look but not over the top :)
Aus- with that setup, can you go lower without any scrubbage issues?
'dish' is determined by offset isnt it?
Not sure. Don't want to go any lower myself.
Dish is determined by offset and wheel design.
how much 'dish' do you get on the rear with your specs?
You can see by the design of the wheels hat the spokes sweep back into the wheel. I guess there's about 50mm on lip.
But I'm not into lip. My fave wheels have none at all:
http://www.kgworks.co.jp/image/ZEIT-02-1.jpg
Wheel offsets can vary quite substancially.
The width of the rim, the offset of the rim, the type of tyre and the camber you wish to run will determine your offset.
If you take a look at IIGQ4U on s2ki, his wheels are 17x8+20 up front and 17x9+28 in the rear. He runs a shit load of camber as you can see in the first photo. But the problem with aggressive offsets is shown in the 2nd photo....
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v5...G_5091copy.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v5...G_5250copy.jpg
I just copy pasted this off S2ki in the hope it will help. I intend to do up a few stickies in the S2000 forum for any future reference, but here is a guide to start with.
Many people have tried many different wheels and tires on the S2000. Along the way, a lot of people have had problems with rubbing. Some had a little rubbing, and some had none. With all of this experimentation, a few things were figured out. The information below is not the drop dead final word of what will and will not fit. Certain things can be done to make something fit that otherwise wouldn't, such as increasing negative camber, running narrow tires, and rolling fenders, but that adds a lot of variability to this equation and thus is difficult to predict. We'll assume the owner has had a proper alignment, uses tires recommended for the chosen wheel width, and hasn't modified their fenders.
Based on successes and failures from many S2000 owners, we can use an offset calculator to figure out what other offsets and tires will work. These are minimum recommended offsets. You can use a higher offset if you want, and you will get additional fender clearance.
For the front:
205 tires: +43 offset minimum (6.5” to 7.5” wide wheel)
215 tires: +48 offset minimum (7.0” to 8.0” wide wheel)
225 tires: +53 offset minimum (7.0” to 8.0” wide wheel)
235 tires: +58 offset minimum (7.5” to 8.5” wide wheel)
245 tires: +63 offset minimum (7.5” to 8.5” wide wheel)
For the rear:
235 tires: +40 offset minimum (7.5” to 8.5” wide wheel)
245 tires: +45 offset minimum (7.5” to 9.0” wide wheel)
255 tires: +50 offset minimum (8.0” to 9.5” wide wheel)
265 tires: +55 offset minimum (8.5” to 9.5” wide wheel)
275 tires: +60 offset minimum (9.0” to 10.0” wide wheel)
285 tires: +65 offset minimum (9.0” to 10.0” wide wheel)
The offsets above will all set the outside edge of the tire to the same place relative to the outer fender, rounding to the nearest millimeter.
Of course, the wheel width must be chosen to fit the tire you plan to use. You can’t stuff a 275 on a 7” wide wheel, and you wouldn’t want to use a 9” wide wheel with a 205 tire. Read the specs on the tires you want to use, and figure out what wheel width you should use.
OEM Fitments
For reference, the OEM MY00-03 (AP1) wheel sizes and offsets are as follows:
Front:
16" x 6.5", +55 offset, 205 tire
Rear:
16" x 7.5", +65 offset, 225 tire
and the OEM MY04+ (AP2) wheels (including MY06) are as follows:
Front:
17" x 7.0", +55 offset, 215 tire
Rear:
17" x 8.5", +65 offset, 245 tire
^^ do those tyre calculators take into consideration lowering the car about 2.5"-3.0" ??
It doesn't say in the thread, so I can only presume not.
3" is a lot of droppage.
Your car would sit slightly lower than mine I believe. Surely you're not dropped 3"?
im on 18s and my rear tyres are slightly tucked :)
pics or ban. :D
here you go....
just in case anyone is wondering, current wheel specs are as follows;
front: 18x7.5 +40 215/35/18
rear: 18x8.5 +40 235/40/18
ideally id like to be running 245 but due to the offset with the 235/40 it sits pretty much flush with the guards and thats with camber. Fronts i will be trying to fit 225/40/18
here are some pics
http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/f...7_183102-1.jpg
http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/f...0/IMG_9013.jpg
Parkes-probably is lower. :P
and i only dodge the really big potholes
well i have raised the front up abit. Also trimmed abit off the front air deflector as well. Apart from that its quite drivable. Its my daily driver. The only time i have problems is with huge speed humps and dipping driveways.
Apart from that...its all good:thumbsup:
On a side note, the car looks alot better lowered imo.
i run the following..
F:225/40 on a 18x8 +40
R:255/35 on a 18x8 +40
seem to have no problems.. but then again what was mention before about the camber and etc.. is really tru as im funning roughly about 3 degree neg camber on the rear.. car is lowered but not as slammed as FLYs.. though it does look hot lower...
^
Do you scrub with a 255 in the rear?
Hey guys,
I'm currently in the same position. Going to buy an s2k soon and found some hot looking wheels. However, the diameter of the rims are of two different sizes; does this pose an issue? Here are the specs of the rims:
Fronts: 17 x 7 offset +35
Rears: 18 x 9.5 offset +42
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Hmmm, well the different diameters aren't really a problem but you may have trouble fitting a 9.5 inch wheel with a +42 offset under the guards.
^ thanks for the quick reply. will the 7" upfront look too small?
I run a 8" rear +43 and it fits perfecto, but an extra 1/2" wider and same offset won't work IMO.
I am running
17X8 +45 with 225/45/R17 - front
17X9 +63 with 245/40/R17 - rear
I haven't driven it much yet as I just mounted them on. Rear looks fine but front is kinda sticking out a bit and by calculation it is 15mm extra. Hope it doesn't rub, but I think it will be fine with some coilovers and camber kit.
^^ should be right. though fronts 225/40/17 should be fine. rear u can probably run 255/35/17?
what wheels did u buy?
Blacks old wheels? Nice!
people, may i direct you attention to this thread
http://www.s2ki.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=456737
yea. loving the cars rocking the RPF1!
btw, what kind of market is there for just a pair of rims? thinking of selling the two rear 57PRO from my car. I want to get 18x9.5 rears running 18x8.5 just doesnt cut it lol
Hey does anyone know the offset on the light blue s2k in the states running 19inch Meister 3P SP1s?? Looks sick but unsure if that setup will cause rubbage...
pictures will help.
So too will be asking the owner :)
Im runnin 18 x 8.5 +43 all round with 225/40 falkens stretched. Doesnt scrub at all. Getting lowered 2.5in's next week, by the looks of it wont need to roll the guards either : D
Dayum, dat'll look fully hectic!
http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthread.php?t=84128
In attendance?
hey guys,
just wondering if i was to buy a new set of rims for my s2k...would
17 x 9 +42 all round fit (including tyres) without any scrubbing issues?
would these sit flush? (or slightly over or under flush?)
My opinion is they will stick out up front by about an inch, so they won't sit flush no. Without dialing in a bit of camber you'll probably scrub too IMO?
In the US, 17x9 + 45 is a 'preferred' offset for track days.
Wait for member 'vyets' to come in to this thread, he's the OHS2K expert on this stuff.
sweet.
well the thing is..i still want 17 x 9 rims on all fours.
wot offsets would i need to make them sit flush on all fours (considering tyre size + no scrubbing)? =)
cheers!!
Mine sit dead flush if thats what you're looking for?
I run the following:
18x7.5 +45mm (215 rubber)
18x8.5 +49mm (225 rubber)
No scrubbing, and can go larger tyre size easily enough.
Just remember, 1 inch is equal to about 24mm, so if you're going to change widths, you need to adjust the offset number too.
PS: I have them up for sale at the moment..... ;)
http://www.supercars.net/pitlane/pic...5/3323650d.jpg
I did a lot of research before I bought 17 x 9 +54 F & R. This offset should give an aggressive look but camber of around -2 degrees is needed to keep the top of the tyre flush with guard. Tyre being 255/40. With a smaller tyre like 235 which just fits 9inch wide, you should be able to fit this offset a lil easier.
Hope this helps
18x8.5 +43 will rub if you lower it too much.
sweet!!
i've been looking around and asking ppl and stuff..they all come up with different offsets for 17x9 all round, and their ones were even lower offsets...so with ur setup...does the guards need to be rolled at all to fit? (even with say that -2 camber)
im also curious as to how long the tires would last with the -2 camber.
if u dont mind could u also post a pic!!
much appreciated!! =D
Everything you need to know is here.
http://www.maxrev.net/widetires.htm
-2 wont wear your tyres unless you have an aggressive toe setting. UK s2000 has -2 camber stock on the rears.
17x9 +42 wont fit.
This is flush..
http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z...8/IMG_8160.jpg
Take a look at this thread to see other peoples setups, alot of non staggered setups in here as well. Some people post their setups and camber and tyre sizes.
http://www.s2ki.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=456737
hey guys,
the set of rims that im looking at...well the ones i want is 17x9's on all fours.
the thing is..the highest offset they offer is +44.
i was wonder if these would fit (17x9" +44) in the F&R.
if they dont, wot could i do to make these fit?
This is 17x9 +45
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d1...r/advanrg2.jpg
F 17x8 + 44 (215/45; No camber, No fender roll).
R 17x9 + 44 (235/45; 1degree camber + fender roll to come)
http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/5227/img6967cf4.jpg
http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/i...jpg/1/w640.png
The most agressive offset you can run without having to roll guards, on a 8" wide rim is +48 and +60 on a 9" rim. However your playing with the life of the factory front guards. There aren't many rim manufactures that make decent offsets for S2K's, other than common japanese rims.
Thats not entirely true.
I had 19x8 all round +43 (with a 3mm spacer, thus effectively +40) and I didn't have to roll guards - but they did only ever scrub going down my street where theres a rather large dip in the road. I never scrubbed anywhere else though.
I agree, at factory ride height, but not when it's lowered.
hi guys, just wondering will these wheels fit on s2k ?
front 20x8 +32
rear 20x9 +38
will i have to get coilovers or will stock suspension hold ?
they both will hold but your car probably feel like shit with stock suspension and camber. mate just look for something a little less aggressive to be realistic aim for 40+offset and smaller rims
I'm going 18x8 35 and 18x9 45, and thats going to be a somewhat challenging task, so a 20x8 32 and 20x9 38 is just not worth it. The amount of hassle, to fit them, would be unbelievable. IMO.
- Brad
They're 20's tho, not 17's LOL.
yeh, i knew that...i reckon still depend on what type of wheels...like ADVAN RG, the offset will be like 9' +38 or around there....try to fit CE28 9' +38 will be soooo agressive, right? so every offset is diff for each kind of wheels. Cheers
i dont think it matter whether 20' or 17', they are the diameter and i am referring to offset... ;):thumbsup:
Not really, the offset will stick out the same. it's only diffrent on each style rim for brake clearance and thats because of the spoke designs, as for how far they stick out its the same.
Tyre brand/style and size will matter more about clerance then diffrent wheels
Yes, i agree with you...thats what im trying to explain to ludecrs... it doenst matter 20' or 17', the offset will be the same if they are the same type of wheels.... coz it sounded that ludecrs referring that 20' is more stick out than 17'... i could be wrong what ludecrs trying to say
Kinda missed my point. I was saying you can fit a 17" tyre with aggressive offset under our guards much easier than you can fit a set of 20's which require rolled & pulled guards of equal offsets.
IE: 20x8 +35 v 17x8 +35. The 17x8 will pretty much fit with just a camber adjustment. The 20's due to their stupidly large size, will require a roll and pull of the fender PLUS camber adjustment.
Assuming the same offset of 38mm, 20x9 is a much bigger wheel and tyre combination than 17x8. Don't forget, it's not just greater diameter being 20", but it's also a an inch wider at 9". This means the rear tyres are going to extend by 46mm more than the stock AP1 setup. Add lowering and you're going to need new rear-fenders/fender extensions.
Whatever rocks your boat, but I can't see why you'd want to stick 20" wheels on an S2000; you'll completely destroy what the car was made to do.
17x8.5 +40 rear fits with the help of guard rolling & rear bumper tab relocation.
sorry guys ... but found another wheel
20x8.5 +45 5x114.3
all round
will a 8.5" wide wheel fit on the front of a s2000 ?
they'll stick out without a camber adj or fender roll.... or both.
my old 19x8 +43 (with 3mm spacer to clear calipers ths effectively +40) stuck out substancially on the front.
thanks ludecrs
http://firesport.com.au/images/130872_2009030132.jpg
i might get these ... something abit different on a s2000 tring to do a VIP/jdmish style
Had 18 x 8.5 +45 on mine, maybe stuck out 1mm, camber will fix that and as long as you have stretched tyres probably wont even need camber either :thumbsup:
If they are +45 all round you may want to put a 5mm spacer on the rear as it just doesnt look quite right with the same offset all round.