Any input from you guys will be great
price to performance, who to go
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Any input from you guys will be great
price to performance, who to go
Headers you are limited to Spoon or Mugen (Spoon being the cheaper of the 2), or a custom job.
Exhaust wise, if you want a bolt-on catback system you are limited to Spoon, Buddy Club and Fujitsubo as far as I know.
The Fujitsubo is the cheapest, and the Spoon and BC are about the same price (a little bit more than Fuji). The BC is too loud and hangs way too low for my liking. Even at stock height mine would hit the ground on occasion. Besides that it is too loud and you lose too much bottom end for it to be any good as an everyday road system.
You can get mufflers from pretty much any of the big Jap brands, but they simply bolt on at the back and are more for sound and looks more than anything else.
I cant find header on the spoon web site....
it is 421 or 41?
I prefer 421 since it got better low end power
On the Spoon site, go to the Fit Parts link, and it is in with all the exhaust and manifold part.
It is a 4-1 design just like the Mugen. To be honest I don't even think there is enough room for a good 4-2-1. I haven't looked closely at the factory one but it must go close to being a 4-1 design given the limited amount of room and distance to the cat.
The cat looks to be a strange design and looks quite akward, Not sure how well it flows, but that might be an area for a bit of improvement
oic, so u know any review on spoon and mugen header coz i quote for $1200 landed which is very nice...
I haven't seen any review or comparison of either of them, so that's why I am a bit hesitant about buying them. I'll wait and see how you go first :P
$1200 landed for the Mugen one sounds about right
I haven't seen any review or comparison of either of them, so that's why I am a bit hesitant about buying them. I'll wait and see how you go first :p
$1200 landed for the Mugen one sounds about right
spoon one is 421 if u see the picture carefully
I am going to give it a go together with spoon filter and trottlebody
http://61.213.172.41/images/lineup/070_01.jpg
where is the 2? (ie in 4-2-1)
it looks like 4-1 to me :confused:
Pete :)
see the one in mugen-power.com and compare it. it looks like 421 to me and as well hondar which going to import for me in the next shippment. the 2 part is very shory and make it to 1 instead of 4 straight join to 1. there is nth in the spoon site regard to this so i have no idea....
Spoon is 4-1....all 4 collect in to the 1.
No way its 4-2-1. It is an equal length 4-1.
Spoon TB works on exchange generally unless you can find a stray one in Hong Kong or Indo or something. Remeber it is just an OEM Jazz/Fit TB that has been bored out a couple of mm and you will pay around $700-$800 for the privelage...
i dunno man...
that's what hondar told me
TB is around $600landed as i get quote b4.
going to put the money to Z account for spoon products
so will be able to give u guys a review on that.
However, I still dunno what exhuast to go since i still want to wait until my mugen bar arrive and fitted first
I think you will find, that with the manifolds, the Mugen one on their site is just on a different angle to the Spoon one. They are quite similar looking in design, it's just that you can see more of the Mugen one than the Spoon one.
That's a good price for the TB. Can't wait to see how it all comes together.
i am not going for TB for some reason. =)
You'll also notice that Honda is releasing a revised mainfold now - for the jazz - in stainless steel.
http://asia.vtec.net/Series/FitJazz/...hoto/vtec3.jpg
isnt that the stock manifold for the jazz? according to the review on www.vtec.net.asia it says that the stock manifold is stainless steel....and that looks like the same picture from the website...
I could be on the VTi maybe. Wont make much diffrence for me, cos we dont get the VTi here. Only the 1.4 iDSI.
oh...i see. u guys only have 1 engine model to there?
Yes, in Europe, only the 1.4iDSI is avail.. So I need to swap :)
How much different does the stock headers look when compared to the aftermarket ones... spoon, mugen etc. Anyone got pics for comparison. Is the piping larger in diameter for better performance?
this is xforce one....Quote:
Originally Posted by kuso
http://img48.echo.cx/img48/488/header4el.jpg
oem one
http://img48.echo.cx/img48/1488/oemheader0031un.jpg
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Originally Posted by TypeG
WHY? :confused:
wow...the xforce header tubes does look considerably larger that the stock one, and even looks better quality :)
and the car feels better after installing it :D
yeah.... u cant beat the value of it... hehehe.... :DQuote:
Originally Posted by devil
Can get a Tanabe one for you 995 delivered.
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Exhaust that is.
those headers look pretty damm cute lol :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Zimp13
tonys engine had a M3 like metallic noise to it, sounded nice
metallic noise?
I am just wondering if I could get Spoon headers and exhaust system but then get a cat-back from another brand? I noticed That a full Spoon exhaust consists of three parts but I don't like the look of the Spoon muffler so could I mix and match and will everything bolt together ok?
of cos u can.... i know people mix and match their full system.... cheersQuote:
Originally Posted by SiR CRX
Hi,
Can I just install the header and keep my stock exhaust. Will I gain power
yes u will.... the gain is greater than changing the muffler alone.....Quote:
Originally Posted by kimo
The gain is in the header and testpipe/cat. The rest of for show and sound.
i m glad that we have the same thinking... hehehe.... thats wat i ve been telling people that i know....Quote:
Originally Posted by strepto
I'd love to get my hands on a system, and dyno it. Of course, actually having a Jazz first would be a good idea :)
jazz is fun and affordable....Quote:
Originally Posted by strepto
What about the cat is there anything we can do for the cat, has anyone install high cat. In my 2 previous cars I took the cat off and wow what a performance, butthe problem in the Jazz it has 2 oxg sensors which for sure will light the check engine. My friend told me it will only consume more gas, as the sensors will read wrong. Any ideas.
You use an o2 simulator :) The second one has nothing to do with the A/F curve, it only makes sure the generic output is within limits, so you fool it to think that its all cool. I've been using this: http://www.wiredspeed.com/itemdesc.a...DO2SIM&eq=&Tp=
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Originally Posted by strepto
So you off you cat off and you are using the 02 simulator.
Uhm.. If you mean "did I use a testpipe and an o2 simulator" the answer is yes.Quote:
So you off you cat off and you are using the 02 simulator.
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Originally Posted by strepto
What is a testpipe is it a normal pipe and you just install the sensors. Do you have to buy the simulator for jazz or it's a universal type, what about the gain.
no cat get caught big fines in oz.... better put hi flo cat rather than the O2 simulator.... with power gain always more petrol..... there is no such thing as save petrol increase performance....
also it is smelly without the cat too
my car wasn't smelly without the cat
but was pretty loud and the malfunction indicator got annoying