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Hi guys, i'm already down the NA path but everytime i'm in a turbo i'm astounded, i love it so much. But the main question for me is how long will my car last as in is it possible to last say 200,000km. I wouldn't boost it much, just enough to get that extra kick. Also at what point should internals be changed, ie, is it enough to just do pistons? i love vtec power, but to have turbo as well would be sick! And also what about suspension changes?!?!
cheers guys
Depends on tuning, turbo etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by absolutR
Many, MANY variables.
Its a very open answer to your question.
It could last 1km or 200k kms plus.
Depends on, quality of parts, install, tune and how you drive it.
well i been looking at a kit, ie the hks bolt on kit or the garrett honda sportrax kit. both suitable for a dc2r. i doubt i'd run it on anything above 10 pounds
knowing me, i'm not gonna lie, i would drive it spiritedly, not stupid but spirited
n i wanna track it too.
that's what they all say lolQuote:
Originally Posted by absolutR
yeh but i'm cheap, too busy thinking about what damage running a higher psi could do. plus i can't bere to have it off the road
The tune is where the danger is.Honda power takes lots of $$$ ;)
Cooling mods. Get a larger more efficient radiator and oil cooler.Quote:
Originally Posted by absolutR
If your gonna track it, your definatly going to shorten lifespan.
Tracking will be harder on the engine (and suspension, drivetrain, body) when compared to spirited driving on the street.Quote:
Originally Posted by absolutR
do not turbo your carQuote:
Originally Posted by absolutR
IF your gonig cheap.. save your pennies for a decent kits. Go cheap now and say bye bye for the motor
Try one of those SRI with the turbine in the middle.
Cheap :)
So on average, how many km's would you get from a turbo'd R (or B series in general, with stock internals) before having to rebuild the engine or change any of the internals ?
kind of a useless question.Quote:
Originally Posted by magicmike
could go for 100 000km. could go for 1km.
so maybe the average is 50 000km? but thats just a meaningless figure.
the main point people are trying to make, is that if you dont have the money to do it properly - ie quality parts and a GOOD TUNE, then dont do it at all, because if you make a half arsed effort, and skimp on parts, labour, or the tune, the lifespan of the engine will be significantly reduced.
well the hks bolt on set up is worth about $2800. n the garrett honda bolt on kit is worth $4000. To my understanding, hks have garrett turbine's in their own housing, so would it be fine going with the hks?
Mate don't do it... Just sell your car, and buy a car that is already turboed (Evo, Sti, S15 etc etc).
If you don't have the money to repair it once it breaks, just don't do it.
Or if you are adament on doing it, buy a seperate B18, and build that one up slowly... pop that one in, and drive and go nuts. If one day it goes BANG, then just pop the original motor in. Cars sell for more when they are stock aswell, so putting the stock motor back in will be better for your pocket in the long run.
Just my 2c.
Twin turbo it.
Don't be a pussy.
where did you find the hks kits for $2800?
F**K it then!!! Just put another engine in the back seats, and then freaking QUAD TURBO IT... FTMFW!Quote:
Originally Posted by Elwood
smart boyQuote:
Originally Posted by VTECMACHINE
plus rear wheel drive cars with heaps of power are way cooler then front wheel drive turbos
but a small front wheel drive car beating all these skylines and s15's is also cool...
oh decisions decisions
Your username is fitting.Quote:
Originally Posted by [ricer]
Other than avoidable problems (tuning, poor assembly, cast ringlands etc) reliability comes down to thermal management. Engines die from overheating, so keep it cool and you'll be sweet.
cheers :D:thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by string
more power will always speed up wear.
Depending how you drive will depend on how long it lasts.
(i've seen guys blow up brand new boosted cars cos of the way they drive)
its all in the chooon, gota chooon it right and wen u add a spoon sock u gotta chooon it again to get more power. lol nah bro but seriously, how u drive is probably the most important, then tuning. treat it right and it'll treat u right
And then you read your signature. :p:thumbsup:
Does that mean your gay?
DLOO1's DC2-R-T
is a clean example of a Turbo'd -R
Read his car log!@
So you're saying drive an untuned NA-T car for awhile, then tune it?Quote:
Originally Posted by tekung89
yeh i have, but its not just the build path i'm wondering about, more the maintenance part to long life. thanks for all the posts tho, very helpful, cheers
Maintanence is just the same as any other car for long life. Regular serviceing, good oil.
I think hes still driving his own turbo EG untunned.Quote:
Originally Posted by xntrik
Rubbish... an exhaust add's power, and it will have not have any adverse effects on the engine life.Quote:
Originally Posted by Limbo
it's all a system, which is controlled by the person behind the wheel.... if that person has no care for the system, the system will fail sooner rather than later... if that person does have any mechnical sympathy it will last longer than in the hands of the first person...
at the end of the day it is mechnical so it aint perfect... it will break down eventually
yeh true, well if i go turbo i'm gonna have to strengthen anything, i'm not gona lie, i'll most definately be driving "spiritedly"..
thanks for all the info guys, i gotta choose what i'm doin
n hustle mo cish
i was driving spiritedly, and you know what, my valves gave way. in my turbo dc2Quote:
Originally Posted by absolutR
lol.
so i said **** it, i'll rebuild my whole ****ing motor.
what kind of power were you putting out to damage the valves? any incident that caused it or just wear and tear?Quote:
Originally Posted by destrukshn
on stock internals?
160fw kw.Quote:
Originally Posted by dudeling7
just wear and tear.
lol.
yes on stock internals.
but not anymore.
lol.
yeah not to mention a clutch in a million pieces
really, how much more spirited driving will you do with that exhuast now?Quote:
Originally Posted by VTECMACHINE
lol more reving around girls lawl!! but good point, i think what he was trying to say before is that supercharging/turbo thts where he big power is, and with big power comes greater risk
hahahaha.Quote:
Originally Posted by Limbo
yes a sports organic clutch came out in pieces.
lol.
haha dude what did u do!
nothign, just drove it how it was supposed to be driven.Quote:
Originally Posted by dudeling7
lol.
never dumped or abused the clutch, not once.
lol.
it was approx 10,000kms old, and it practically came out in pieces, rivets half there.
lol.
Your car is a daily - you want to turbo it, yet you can't afford to have it off the road?
Do you think the snail crawls on while you're sleeping and tunes itself?
no as in i can't bear to have it off the road for months coz of rebuilds n what not, tuning i dont consider the car as 'off the road', i also drive a ba falcon so theres no drama for tuning n what not. i just would hate it if i couldnt drive it for ages, nothing to do with couldn't afford to have it off the road for small amounts of times.
if you source all the parts, the bolt on could be done in one weekend and the tune will normally take about 2-5 hrs.
So you could have it in about 2-3days. All about the cash.
I took longer cos i wanted to do some of the work myself and keep costs down.