I have a '95 GSi Teg and it needs power!!
I was wondering if any of you know how much it would cost and if it would be worth it. ie having to replacing cams, pistons, etc aswell
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I have a '95 GSi Teg and it needs power!!
I was wondering if any of you know how much it would cost and if it would be worth it. ie having to replacing cams, pistons, etc aswell
allow $10k to do it properly..
it will only be worth the trouble if you do it properly..
if you are going to do it....do it right the first time..
have someone make you a kit!
i.e: don't just slap one together for the cheapest you can go..
save a little longer and do it right...you will save in the long run..
Get yourself a good turbo and cooler(new is best), take it to a turbo exhaust shop and have them fabricate the pipework for you and fit all of the hardware..
Then trailer it to a performance shop and have them fit an aftermarket computer and fuel system!...a Heavy duty clutch is worth its weight in gold...perhaps even a set of forgef pistons and rods just for safety...get it tuned then presto!...one quick ass honda!
at least then you will feel safe in knowing that it will start first go in the morning! and wont break or die when you give it a hit..
Jnr Teggy is right, except I think it will be a bit cheaper than 10K. With my shopping around it came to around 7K for a good package.
Do it right and you can drive around on 6-8psi daily on stock compression. The Gsi has pretty strong internals so unless you won't big HP you will be fine. VTEC doesn't offer any advantages over non VTEC for turbo setups (there was a big debate about this on honda-tech awhile back) so you're not missing out on anything.
If you do it right, you'll enjoy it.
isnt it better to turbo a non-vtec car?
coz of how vtec works, isnt it not suited for turbo?
i dunno. lol.
the vtec actually helps the turbo spool up believe it or not!Quote:
Originally Posted by Calvo
yeh? well i guess i just learnt sumfin new!!
i thought coz of that compression stuff. or sumfin or rather. but hey. all the better :D
high compression means low boost..
unless you get serious with intercooling, internals and tuning
ahh k.
its all good :D
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Originally Posted by Jnr Teggy
I like to read it as High compression means 'lower' boost :).
I like the idea of a (resonably) high compression engine (arond 9.5-10) running good boost to give nice throttle response.
Amen!!Quote:
Originally Posted by wynode
The setup i have priced is about 8k, however that even includes the clutch, elec. boost controller, turbo timer etc (extra goodies i threw in :)), even a gauge or two
Or you could alway's go for an all out package like the 11.4 second Integra at Croydon. :D
That Integra has had a lot fo problems during its life though :)
Still, it set that 11.4 time like 3 years ago now, and is daily driven :D
thats what i like...daily driven road weapons!
yeah those prices arent a surpise. A place here in adelaide quoted me $5500 for a supercharger set up. I rekon ill jus keep on saving up and put in a turbo, i know some guys in the industry who can give me a good deal when it comes to manifolds, intercoolers and plumbing.
U could no doubt graba kit from the US for a turbo setup for around 4-5grand, but it all depends on what u goels are? how much hp and what kinda extra mods u wanna go for?
How extreme do you want to go?
Most Honda's can be boosted on about 8psi safely without doing internals.
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Originally Posted by sharky
the B18B block is actually quite good for turbocharging as it has lower compression then the B18C. for 10K that'll include forged pistons and maybe even shot-peened rods...depending if u wanna go that far! but you should be able to do within 8K. it all dpends on what u want and how far you're willing to push the limits...
when it comes to turbos im in the dark, have have no real idea. Going on advice ive been given ive been thinking something small like a T25 or maybe a bit bigger. Basically something to bring it off the 115Kw (at the fly) mark, make it a bit of a road weapon.
actually, stuff the modest s**t, for around 7K what could i do to make it a commy beating beast! U guys tell me :D
a T25 is the turbo off a older model sr20.....not that small, but not huge at the same time. but if ur refering to a GT25 HKS item, these things are fairly huge and flow heaps better!
a nice garrett GT25 should flow a reasonable amount, or if that's out of your budget (about $1400 new) a second hand s15 or s14 T28 BB turbo should do nicely. Something that size should still spool up quickly enough and be a nice streetable turbo.
ahh crap another honda boy to the dark side nooooooooo...
seriously dude, with a fwd car your kinda startin off on the wrong foot. You want linear power on request, go N/A
also i reckon minimum 6k to spend trust me I've been there!!!!
There's alot of things to think of..
ECU, injectors (ugrade from 240cc to around 340cc), fuel pump, adj fpr, turbo, cooler, piping, new piping, wouldnt hurt to decomp the car.. e.t.c
saying that, N/A will be a more expensive part..
I'f your really determined on developing power, go to www.honda-tech.com and search hmm there's a guy in Austria making 420 whp!!! will get the name to you, he has posted his setup....
thinks its skafia
just remember..
turbo's are for rich people!
If you turbo on a B18B you will get around 120kw @ the wheels on 7psi.
Thats no internals.
Cost is around $10,000 if you want it done properly.
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Originally Posted by one more chance
Daily driven my arse...Quote:
Originally Posted by poid
It's sat in their workshop for 3 years too...
Could anyone suggest what I could do getting more power into a GSi without getting it turbo'd?
The first thing I am doing is changing my tranny to manual.
I got this priced for my Teg its $1000 a second they wanted $14500 for this set up but includes Vtecing my motor.
Integ LS, whoever ur going wtih doesnt know hondas then man....
As for linear power this crap and that crap, u might hvae goen boosted [acronym:e6a9f6eb7e="Front Wheel Drive"]FWD[/acronym:e6a9f6eb7e] before, yer, in ur dreams. Linear my A$$, check out any of my mates b16a motors that are boosted, they look linear enough to me, oh adn they also make 30kws more than ur gay linear OMG dont TURBO this religous [acronym:e6a9f6eb7e="Valve Timing and lift Electronic Control"]VTEC[/acronym:e6a9f6eb7e] NA machine YO!
for what it is worth, i get 121kw out of a stock internaled B20VTECQuote:
Originally Posted by integra97";p="3863
cost = 8000ish (DIY)
LOL!Quote:
Originally Posted by Slaz";p="4084
Yeah thats why I didnt get it done The quote was from Croydon auto sports same set up as the 11.4 runing balck teg they built last time I saw it run at Heathcote they blew the Head.Not to mention the thing also has NOS hokked up.
ey guys, ive been reading all the stuff about turbo charging a teg...ive got a dc4 and WAS considering an engine swap to a vtec...is there any point? or shud i consider turbo charge? how much kw am i lookin out? coz atm im gettn b/w 100-115 with my gsi...all it has is an exhaust and pod....but has become much fasta wen i added these...cheers