17 inch Luxury wheels on a standard 05 Euro

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25-07-2008, 06:06 PM
dunerider

17 inch Luxury wheels on a standard 05 Euro

Hi Guys,

I recently purchased an 05 Euro which has standard 16 inch wheels. I would like to put 05/06 17 inch Luxury wheels on it. I rang Honda and they advised that the Luxury has a slightly different steering rack designed to handle the 17 inch which obviously comes standard. Does anyone have any idea if my standard euro steering would feel any different or greatly affected by putting the luxury wheels on it or after market 18 inch wheels on it? Any advice would be appreciated. Obviously lots of guys do this so i assume it is not such a big deal. Thanks
25-07-2008, 06:41 PM
Crapdaz

nah not much of a big deal, not too much noticeable difference in performance.

sizing of your tyres and size of rims would contribute and more noticeable to the ride quality though, otherwise light weight forged wheels would make a noticeable difference too.

make sure if you go for aftermarket rims check the offset is suitable for the euro.

fixed wheel offset for euro is 45-55. But people have run +42 which is on the limit of sticking out of the guards.

atm i am running +43.

Hope this helps.
darren
25-07-2008, 07:14 PM
dunerider

Thank you very much for that Darren
25-07-2008, 07:16 PM
drftr

its a little unrelated but is the setting the same for the euro sport and the luxury as the sport also comes with 17"

what about the suspension?? does that differ because the car is a 'sport'
25-07-2008, 07:27 PM
aaronng

You'll be alright. There are people putting 19" and 20" rims on their base model Euro. :)
25-07-2008, 08:46 PM
johnnyofhk

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Originally Posted by aaronng

You'll be alright. There are people putting 19" and 20" rims on their base model Euro. :)

actually i wanna ask if VSA works with 18inch or larger rims :confused::confused:
25-07-2008, 08:57 PM
yfin

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Originally Posted by johnnyofhk

actually i wanna ask if VSA works with 18inch or larger rims :confused::confused:

as long as you stick with the same overall diameter it is fine - although I don't think massively increasing the weight of rim/tyre helps the VSA
25-07-2008, 09:13 PM
aaronng

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Originally Posted by johnnyofhk

actually i wanna ask if VSA works with 18inch or larger rims :confused::confused:

It works. All it does is cut power when you lose traction and brake the individual corners when you are under or oversteering.
26-07-2008, 05:31 PM
LXRY

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Originally Posted by aaronng

You'll be alright. There are people putting 19" and 20" rims on their base model Euro. :)

Agreed...Go for it, one of our members selling their lxry rims including tyres, check the For Sale section, they great rims !!

You wont notice any difference, wont affect your VSA.
26-07-2008, 05:55 PM
LXRY

http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthr...ight=euro+rims

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Honda-Accord-...QQcmdZViewItem

Hope this helps......but try to find our member, sh*t for all I know the ebay listing might be it.
26-07-2008, 06:03 PM
davec

ive done this to my 04 euro, feels the same, no problems
26-07-2008, 07:07 PM
LXRY

PM JunYu he has the rims for sale
26-07-2008, 08:31 PM
dunerider

Have contacted Jun and hope to get the wheels next week.Thanks
27-07-2008, 11:44 PM
aday

I've put '06 Lux rims on my '05 standard (am running Yoko C-drive 225/45 tyres). The only comment I'd make is that you may well notice the car tramline somewhat with the larger wheel/tyre combo. But the car's hardware is well up to the job (of course), and don't let Honda convince you otherwise. One staffer at my local dealer tried to tell me the 17s were incompatible and would likely void my warranty - needless to say I had a good chuckle at that one. :)
31-08-2008, 01:07 AM
SPQR

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Originally Posted by aday

I've put '06 Lux rims on my '05 standard (am running Yoko C-drive 225/45 tyres). The only comment I'd make is that you may well notice the car tramline somewhat with the larger wheel/tyre combo. But the car's hardware is well up to the job (of course), and don't let Honda convince you otherwise. One staffer at my local dealer tried to tell me the 17s were incompatible and would likely void my warranty - needless to say I had a good chuckle at that one. :)

IMO, 17" wheels with 225/45R17 tyres are not compatible with a Euro originally fitted with the 16" wheels and 205/55R16 tyres. That's why Honda won't knowingly sell you 17" wheels for the standard car.

I found out the hard way and I have experienced very bad tramlining. However, in another thread, I postulated that the cause was the change in shape of the tyre contact patch: With the 225/45R17 tyres, the contact patch is much wider in relation to its length (widening its polar moment of inertia). I have just replaced my car's 225/45R17 tyres with 205/50R17 tyres (same overall diameter and load rating).

The 205/50R17 tyre size has a contact patch that is very similar to that of the 205/55R16 tyres. The result: Tramlining has disappeared from my car. I think that I was right about the shape of the contact patch and the way it interacts with the suspension geometry of the Euro Standard. The Luxury with 17" wheels must have a different suspension geometry to counteract tramlining.

As far as level of grip of the new size tyre is concerned, there is a slight noticeable reduction in grip. I have gladly traded this for no tramlining!
31-08-2008, 10:46 AM
kimnkk

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Originally Posted by SPQR

IMO, 17" wheels with 225/45R17 tyres are not compatible with a Euro originally fitted with the 16" wheels and 205/55R16 tyres. That's why Honda won't knowingly sell you 17" wheels for the standard car.

Works fine for me. I swapped my 16" for the 17" Honda option penta wheels running 225/45R17 tyres and tramlining hasn't become worse. It's become better in fact - still tramlining, but no worse than what it was before. Could've been because i got a balance and alignment at the time of installation, or could be because of the tyres, but it definitely isn't worse.
01-09-2008, 10:51 PM
SPQR

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Originally Posted by kimnkk

Works fine for me. I swapped my 16" for the 17" Honda option penta wheels running 225/45R17 tyres and tramlining hasn't become worse. It's become better in fact - still tramlining, but no worse than what it was before. Could've been because i got a balance and alignment at the time of installation, or could be because of the tyres, but it definitely isn't worse.

As I said, now my car has absolutely no tramlining at all. It makes it very sweet to drive and I'm liking my car again.
02-09-2008, 09:21 AM
Merlin086

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Originally Posted by SPQR

As I said, now my car has absolutely no tramlining at all. It makes it very sweet to drive and I'm liking my car again.

Damn it man, after all that perseverance you have finally got it sorted!

Congratulations, just have to be more careful you don't scuff the rims now though eh....:thumbsup:
02-09-2008, 08:51 PM
SPQR

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Originally Posted by Merlin086

......don't scuff the rims now though eh....:thumbsup:

Thanks Merlin086. I chose Dunlop SportMaxx tyres (again) and they have the flange shield sidewall.
02-09-2008, 08:59 PM
Crapdaz

nice buy, how much did they set you back per corner for those 17"?

i am running them on 18" 225/40.

Did you get the German made or Japan made SP Sport maxx?
02-09-2008, 11:22 PM
SPQR

^^^ We don't get the best prices in Darwin as everything has to be trucked in: I paid $288 per corner. They are the Dunlop SportMaxx 205/50R17 93 load rating (reinforced construction); Y speed rating; and made in Germany without tramiling.

I previously had the Dunlop SportMaxx 225/55R17 94 load rating (reinforced construction); Y speed rating; and made in Germany complete with lots of tramlining.

I have found the Dunlop SportMaxx to be an excellent tyre in every other respect.