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Hi all,
Looking to purchase some coil overs for my EG, it is a daily driver and will never be tracked but as I spend 70% of my day driving for work I want to have a comfortable ride that performs well.
I can pick up a set of Skunk2 Pro S Coilovers for around the same price as a set of D2's
Which is going to be suit my ride best?
Probably looking to drop 1.5-2"
budget? N+ to be frank.
Back on track, Skunk2 Pro S sounds more reliable than D2s.
flame on.
Would not recommend D2, had a set before and it was poor quality.
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Originally Posted by Chi
thanks :)
a daily driver that will NEVER be tracked doesnt really require coilovers.Quote:
Originally Posted by SiGO
coilovers generally won't provide a comfortable ride either, only performs
well, even then, quality of coilovers will obviously vary from model to model.
a comfortable ride that performs well could be more along the lines of Koni
shocks and stiffer springs. Many people 'claim' that using stiffer springs
with koni yellows on its stiffest setting still remains quite driveable without
being too bumpy and yet will stay relatively flat when going around a corner.
Skunk2's are pretty good if you can get em, don't touch d2's imo
have you looked at tein ss, buddy club N+ or jic's?
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Originally Posted by dynosaur
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I have had both front shocks die on me after 2 months but were replaced by Just Jap under warranty. They have been going strong since then for close to 5 months. They told me there was a bad bunch of inserts that came out of the factory that have shown a 60% fail rate. I've been extremely impressed with Just Jap's after sales support, I've had to go back there 4 times (once for each front strut and a couple of times to replace the bolts on the camber tops as they have a tendency to snap, (I now keep several spares) they know me and my car fairly well now.
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One problem I do have a lot of noise that comes from the front of the car that seems to come from the bearings and bushes in the pillow tops. I've rebuilt them several times and greased and oiled them even more and the noises keep coming back fairly quickly.This is common with most people I know with D2 or G4 coilovers.
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They are advertised as 15way adjustable damper. But the damping adjustment does SFA to the damping....all it does is make nice clicking noises when you turn it and in no way changes the soft/hardness.
The spring rates are all wrong not only for the car but they dont match the valving used in the shock, they are always horribly stiff
I have read of one persons experience in a Silvia with D2 coilovers fitted where even at low speeds the car was skipping across the road and once speeds got higher it would follow any change in camber in the road and would buck and bounce all over the place if things got bumpy.
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My S13 had a similar failure at Oran Park last year with G4 Coilovers. They were installed by a qualified mechanic and less than 500km's old. Was neogiating a corner at 80kmph when i heard a loud bang, stopping the car to find mad camber on one side, towed back to the pits to find that the strut had snapped. Was very lucky no other damage occured ie not lose control and put the car into the wall.
nice.
regarding about the d2's my mate who is on this forum, one of his rears started to leak a few days after installation.. doesnt say much abt d2's
....Get the Skunks
America lives on those ****ing things
for a further more addition they are good quality and at a very affordable price
Damper adjusters didnt work any more after 10,000kms.Quote:
Originally Posted by dynosaur
Shocks died after 15,000kms
IT is horribly stiff regardless of damper adjustment.
Stiff not in a good sense... It felt like a boat rocking forward and backward...
Mine on my EG were okay but dear god were they nothing compared to the Koni Yellows and KG/mm Springs :p
go for the skunk 2 coilovers, iv got them on my ek and so far am pritty happy with them
i hated my skunk2's. too damn bumpy!
Yes I couldn't have said it better myself, but I would add, buying a rear sway bar to the list for an EJ8 and strut braces for the top as the chassis is flexy without it, and if it's lowered a camber kit is a must have to your budgetQuote:
Originally Posted by MM89
my friends got skunk2's in his lil ed9 crx not too bumpy handles incredibly well when he goes throught the gorge and stuff probly best bang for buck
got tein coilovers and its so bumpy =[! how do i fix that
what about coilover sleeves?
get yourself an alien key and find the suspension knob at the top of the struts. Teins should have a plastic nipple over them. remove it and use the alien key to turn anticlockwise* to soften (guys correct me if i'm wrong here)Quote:
Originally Posted by fitvpower
*if it gets even more stiffer, turn it the opposite direction*
seriously some of you people. you buy sports coilovers for sports handling. if you wanted comfort and lowering, go and buy a set of king springs and be done with it.
hoey8888, u r correct.
I have cusco zero 2s in my dc2r, and are awesome for street, even though they are a little stiff. Why do i say this? if they were any softer, then i'd be disappointed i paid x amount when i simply couldve kept the stockers.
as for coilover sleeves, if u want the rear to be bouncy and stiff as all hell (even reputed brands such as skunk2), then go for it. I expected skunk2 to release a coilover sleeve for THAT price, with longer rear springs, but instead it was the same length as the front.
It was aesthetically pleasing, but would give u back pain in no time. and was the worst ride i have ever been in,.
yeh heard pretty good stuff about skunk 2s.. if you want some other budget I have N+ in mine wouldn't complain cept over harsh speed bumps lol. and also function and form also make decent budget coils.
*righty tighty, lefty loosey * or some crap... lol.
i'd assume common sense with all damper adj'able coilovers, clockwise = tighten damper settings and anti-clockwise = softer damper settings. that's how my hks are.
ANYWAY, the OP asked Shunk2 or D2... i'm sure they didn't want to hear how being a daily he should get spring/shock combo instead or just springs for a drop, etc etc... coilovers > spring/shocks for 1 simple reason - adjustability.
ANYWAY ANYWAY... I would definitely go Skunk2... have had personal experience with D2 (in EK), and they were simply bad, and i mean terribly bad. and for the number of "bad reviews" you hit when searching D2, i'm sure you can see it's not just a few cases here and there... and as the other guys mentioned, the americans swear by their Skunk2 stuff, so i reckon you can't go wrong if they're your 2 choices. do it.
if its every day driver as its been mentioned u dont need coilovers the spring rates are way to hard for our roads , i had the pro s coils in my eg yea there great on the circuit! but not parramatta rd or victoria rd! i removed them for a set of s2 lowering spings and sport shocks ride comfort great ! handling great! and u still get alotta tuckage in the rear and just under a finger gap in the front, if ur going for just that stance then get the coilover sleeves for max droppage just get some good shocks tho and new lcas and probably front camber kits too tyre wear sux hard! skunk2 ftw!!!
Do you really find them that harsh?Quote:
Originally Posted by SiReal
I have mine on the 4th setting and with the recaros extra padding compaired to stock seats its comfortable.
Then again sydney roads might be worse.
could always go for koni yellows and gc coilover sleeves, proven works on numerous other occasions... and with today's exchange rates might be a tad cheaper on us ebay..
but there is a koni distributor floating around Australia if you wanna get them locally.
But, if it was me and just between d2 and skunk2.... id go with skunk2 them seem to have alot of r&d behind their products and their quality seems second to none (at least from the stuff i've seen.
i ran skunk2 in my civic.
stiff, but not too bouncy unless the road was fcuked, and definately helped it stay flat through corners
the only thing i can say about d2 is that they are bad for the piles on hard setting but the shiny purple is sexy. not much else
Ive got D2's on my car. Yes they are stiff, i would assume any coilover to be above the normal stiffness level of a Lowered spring setup. There are some reviews about how bad D2's are, but you have to take into consideration the amount that is being sold and purposes of use. Ive seen pictures of teins snapped in half.
Ive got 2 other mates that have g4's (d2 and g4 same shit really), one with them for 9 months (no probs) another with 2 yr old g4's....still not a huge problem, there just getting abit worn cause they bounce (not dampen quick enough) as newer ones.
Biggest advantage when buying d2's for me was local warranty. I'm not sure how it is for skunk2 but i have to go to kirrawee and i can get replacement or repair OR when my warranty is finished if the coil over leaks i can buy a new damper for under $200 each.