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Hey all,
Looking and buying a VT750c in the next few months hopefully, just wanted to see if anyone here had any thoughts at all?
Ive decided against a race style bike as i dont trust my level of experience just yet to have that much power on tap...
Any thoughts?
Don't know too much about cruisers, but you shouldn't let lack of experience put you off riding the type of bike you want to ride. We all have to start somewhere :)
If you're wanting to ride sports bikes in the future, learning the ropes on a cruiser might not be ideal. They ride differently, you sit differently, your body learns the basics differently...
If you don't want a super/hyper sports bike as your first (I take it you're not on restrictions), have you considered naked-sports or touring-sports? They've got oomph yet have a more upright position, and are not as prone to killing you or your joints as much as the super/hyper sports. Since I'm Yamaha biased, I'll suggest an FZ6 as a starting point, or a mid-90s Honda VTR750.
some good points... i just think about a blokes propensity to be stupid on a bike like an R6, which is what i really want, vs. a bike that is more cruising oriented... plus i LOVE chrome
As always, the determining factor is you :)
I understand the hesitancy though, if you haven't had much experience on a bike then jumping on a weapon like an R6 is a very, very, risky thing to do.
I guess the general gist of what I'm saying is that you should practice on a bike that is similar to what you want to eventually get/ride, so that you learn the basics of that class of bike.
An FZ6 is basically an R6 engine in a sexy naked bike frame. A favourite of Parisian thugs, too, and it's a shape that has grown on me a lot. And as for chrome, you can always polish up the frame, swing-arm, wheels, handlebars, footrests etc...
How long have you been riding, and are you on restrictions?
Depending on how much experience you have (I wouldnt suggest this if you are a learner) maybe look at something like a vfr800. Its a good cross between a cruiser and sports bike :thumbsup:.
not much experience at all at the moment, waiting to get off my P's to unrestricted... so not much experience on the street, have ridden dirtbikes occasionally, but yeh, nothing really solid... maybe the better bet is to get a smaller bike like a VT250 for a little while first...
im not really a fan of nakeds to be honest...
Oh, if you dont have much experience ignore the vfr800 (p.s. it is not a naked). Maybe best to get a 250 or a 400cc for a while to get on your feet and then look at upgrading. You shouldnt loose money on resale value if you choose the right bike as well.
^^ What Zdster said. You're much, much better off learning the ropes on a lighter, more forgiving bike than jumping straight to a big bike once your restrictions are over.
A 400 might satisfy your power cravings while still being light and forgiving (ie it won't punt you into a tree mid-corner if you're still ham-fisted with the throttle).
The Honda VFR400/RVF400's are a perennial favourite of mine...
Whats your budget?
With cruisers I find its normally either a love them or hate them sort of thing the vast majority of them are all show and no go, naturally there are exceptions.
I'm a big fan of nakeds and I think they really suit what your after. Around the 600cc mark they either come in detuned 4 cylinders which are pretty forgiving to ride or 650ish V-twins which are down right easy to ride. I'm biased as all hell but I really think you should give an SV650, a GSR600 and FZ6 a test ride. All of them can be chromed up and polished and are good for your first big bike.
have looked at rvf400s my mate had one, felt a little bit cramped on it, but then i didnt spend much time riding it really, was just around the block, didnt have too much time to get into it...
i think something like a vtr250 would be a good place to start, just dont like the look of them
Just think your riding a 250 ducati monster :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Zilli
VTR 250's are a great all rounder bike, my mate has one and he loves it, has good handling, and i think thats what you should still focus on if you dont have much experience
You better get used to the 'crouch' if you want to own an R6 ;)
well ive ridden a 250rr for 3 years now, why havent i upgrade? because i love the 250, its just so easy to ride and is gentle on petrol as well. ive ridden an r6, sure its nice and has got lovely power curve but realistically i dont think i can commute everyday on a 07 r6.
1) i dont think ill be able to keep my licence
2) petrol
3) i think id rather look at the sky than the road in 600 ....kidding
cruisers are nice bikes, although i dont see myself commuting 100km a day in one, i love the looks of the sports bike too much. and plus commuters are for old farts :P haha kidding
http://www.suzukicycles.org/photos/s...mma_SP_450.jpg
from wat i hear, this is one of the fastest 250s in the world
and its illegal for ur Lz in victoria, so gives u an idea, a good middle ground
rgv250 rs250 and nsr250 are the only 250's not allowed under the NSW LAMS regulations
if i was to ride 100km s a day id rather a cruiser than a sportsbike... this is a toy as i catch pbulic transport during the week
Owning a 2 stroker is like owning a Wankel. Are you up to the task?
zomgQuote:
Originally Posted by Feverpitched
forgot it was a 2 stroke
wtf
man, that makes it almost as bad as a cbr600
....
how the fk was this learner legal b4 new legislation came in?
bloody stupid
whats wrong with the cbr's ?
wat i meant is the rgv being a 2 stroke 250 will make almost as much power as a cbr600Quote:
Originally Posted by kraiye
making it a difficult bike to learn on, even if u have some past experience
but now that i think about it, the power band of a 2 stroke is fked, so the rgv, i assume should be worse than the cbr600
worse in terms of ease of riding
RGV is around 62hp
CBR600 is about 130 hp
really???
hmmm
i expected more from a 250 two stroke
still 62 hp is quite a bit
there would be a fair weight differential perhaps? or maybe not, considering the advanaces in technology since the RGV
yeh i dont think the cbr600 would weigh much more
id have to check though....
RGV's and NSR's are around 130 kg's while the 600's are getting down to 160 kg's these days ..
Motorbike technology changes very quickly.. especially compared with cars.
Like the new CBR1000 blade for example, it makes last years r1's and gxr's feel old and heavy !
CBR600RR 155kg's (DRY)
there you go... you learn something everyday...
the new blade is an amazing peice of machinery
Back to the subject of what do we think of VT750's..
Honda has the new DN-01 due to be released here soon.. it might be worth a look if its a cruiser style bike you are after..
http://www.motorcyclists-online.com/...nda-DN-01.html
Check it out.. looks awesome in the flesh!!
Nice styling, but not a bike I would really recommend for soemone who doesnt have much street riding experience.Quote:
Originally Posted by S2kane
Why not?.. its automatic, low seat height, not that much power. its just like a big scooter.
easier to ride than a VT750 but its going to cost around 20 g's
Automatic.. but you can change to a manual mode as well.. a bit like the cvt transmission an the jazz..
lol that Honda DN-01 kinda looks like a 2004 r6 that got squished to me haha
Oh, misread the power/weight figures. Might be a good choice then :thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by S2kane