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hi im currently looking for extractors to buy.. and i've been looking around and most of the good brands are made for the k20a.. well my question is.. does the cl7 euroR k20 headers fit the cl9 k24?.. and if i does fit, do i need any special mods 2 make it happen?
these are some off the headers i've come accross
- 5zigen PRORACER RACE HEADERS for the CL7
- Spoon 4 to 2 Exhaust Manifold CL7
- Feels Exhaust Manifold CL7
- Mugen 4-2-1 Exhaust Manifold K20a
i think the CL7 extractors run shorter than the CL9.
Go for Toda manifold, and source from TODA AU.
Otherwise maybe 5zigen i'd like to see how nice they are and performance, might get them in place of my DC sports.
ooOooo yea 5zigen would be good =)
lol it'll match my exhaust.Quote:
Originally Posted by ig3o
and my lug nuts.
Anyone have any idea on how much these products are or if the thread starter would like to share prices with us would be nice as i too am going to change mine aswell...
5zigen racing manifold is about $1300-1400 shipped to door.
the Spoon extractors 4-2 CL7 AU $ 878.26
@ www.nengun.com
not including shipping cost, tax, etc...
and also u hav 2 buy the other piece where its 2-1
not sure if its reliable but thats where i found it
the Feels extractor is 147000yen which comes down to about $1.5k AUD
and again thats not including shipping, tax, etc...
on my nengun account, delivered to my door is about $1350.Quote:
Originally Posted by ig3o
yes, nengun is where i buy stuff from but takes forever to receive, BUT try perfectrun they are good and fast too.
try perfectrun.com.au and see how much they charge
ontop of that you have to add additional import costs cause it exceeds $1k unless you tell them to invoice only for the price of the product.
I WANT TO GET IT NOW!!!
You need to have the 2-1 section from the CL7, which we don't have in our car.Quote:
Originally Posted by ig3o
Also, headers for CL7 tend to require JDM cat (or an aftermarket cat with the same total length of cat + piping)
the 5zigen race header comes in the 4-2-1 but i am unsure about the flange that connects to the CAT.Quote:
Originally Posted by aaronng
Go Toda Racing Headers, Adrian (Toda AU) can hook you up... A few of us have them and we love them!
I meant the spoon 4-2 header.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crapdaz
For the 5zigen racing header, there is no flange. You are meant to weld your own one on. i think there is also no port for the O2 sensor, so you will have to make a pre-cat O2 port on your cat section.
uh huh i think you are right on that. :thumbsup: but :thumbdwn: cause it'll mean more money wasted.Quote:
Originally Posted by aaronng
I've got Comptech headers,good value for money,approx.$780.00 to your door,bolt straight in,no resonating,hissing etc.:thumbsup:
comptech headers =O! where did u u get it from tony?
Bought them from a guy here 2nd.hand.$500.but you can get them from here.http://www.heeltoeauto.com/product.p...at=2161&page=1 approx.$780.00 to your door.Quote:
Originally Posted by ig3o
not bad price ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by tony1234
Hey mate, a trader on the forum does stainless obx headers 4 $399. Also hurricane headers are approx $400 from an exhaust shop. Just
be baller and get maxim works =P
how much r the maxim works?
i think they are going for $2000 - $2400 ?
I'm pretty sure Feels = rebranded maxim works
you're looking at about 2k for a maxim works header
second that!Quote:
Originally Posted by EuroAccord13
theyre direct fit... and they see high gains (10-12kw atw) :D
PM TODA_AU for good price... if a few of you jump in, he might do a good deal
Got a link to the OBX headers?Quote:
Originally Posted by mreuro4
so what is the performance difference between TODA and Comptech?
Not sure,TODA would be better but cost approx.$1500,i paid $500 so i doubt the gains would be 3 times as much!Quote:
Originally Posted by ig3o
Toda has longer primaries than the Comptech and I THINK it is slightly smaller in diameter so it create less resistance for the exhaust flow and increase peak torque on the higher RPM band but drops quite a fair bit off after it's peak. The length determines how the torque curve is set and the diameter determines the peak torque relative to the RPM.
The bottomline to making power from the exhaust are that the exhaust has to quickly remove the combustion as quickly as possible and the velocity must be high too.
Inertia does not become faster... la.
OK, edited to resistance......
hehe you two fighting lolQuote:
Originally Posted by EuroAccord13
come on msn later tonight... i gotta show you my secret weapon ;) lol
ooOoOOo interesting.. lol i just picked up my injen CAI 2day and im hoping 2 get extractors by the end of this yr.. and im not sure which headers 2 get yet lol..
extractors and headers are the same thing or did that statement follow on.
do you have alot of money to blow or do you just want bang for buck?
TODA/MAXIMWORK/J-Racing (bloody expensive) ------> DCSports/Comptech/Topspeed/Xforce (cheap as chips)
to fit a JDM header you will have to fit a jdm cat as well. with mine, the Random Tech cat is cut and welded to fit. Hanger of the header also needs to be rewelded as JDM header's hanger position is a bit more backward then OEM if you know what i mean. JDM headers will have more gain over CL9 ones coz they are all longer ( the 2-1 connection of CL7 is behind that of CL9). Ah sorry about my FOB engrish.
yea i know its the same thing.. i just didnt wanna use the same word twice =O
i've got the feels header. it's got a air sucking sound when u rev it. does toda and 5 zigen have them sound?
yea its the hissing sound.
toda has it too, basically all aftermarket headers would have it.
a friend of mine is planning to get a set of headers next, but due to the stupid currency, i dont think he will be getting it soon. because he just got a quote for the toda header, it is $3000 now...
oh no! is that quote from the US or toda aust?
toda australia.Quote:
Originally Posted by JunYu
oh that's just bloody great. i just saved up 1.5k for it as well. what a kick in the butt :\
wow should i consider myself lucky :D
maybe i should sell it for 2k and make some money haha
If you guys can wait a while, at least untill the markets settle a bit.
I'm pretty sure our dollar will recover & the price will come back down accordingly.
i certainly hope so, I was trying to organise a group buy offline, or else i would have ordered it a few weeks back :\
yeah dollar/economy sucks...
ive had to cancel orders i had on J32A3 throttle bodies and another RBC manifold :(
Buy Comptech header,approx.1K with the shit exchange rate.Quote:
Originally Posted by JunYu
throw some of it my way :pQuote:
Originally Posted by JunYu
i'm set on toda
LOL same with my friend. However, we just picked up a set of Rays, GGames 77M Time Attack edition for $1.5k instead of the header. Will save up the header next, hopefully by the time we get hold of that much again the price of the header will be lowerQuote:
Originally Posted by JunYu
You can never go wrong with Toda....
+1 For Adrian @ Toda Australia to bring them in for you.
^^^^
+2 to adrian and TODA!
Toda is great but I didn't want to wait until the dollar picks up, not sure how long that will take. So I've just purchased the J's Racing header from JDMConcept and I'll post my thoughts around quality, installation and performance when it's installed. There are some modifications to make for it to fit the CL9 but I have a good place here in Perth to do the work. I also have the J's Test Pipe on the way as well. The header didn't come with that.
A before and after dyno would be awesome as well.
There is already a before and after dyno for the Toda. 14kW gain on a car that already had intake and exhaust. http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showpos...8&postcount=77Quote:
Originally Posted by Euro08Jaz
Don't forget a few of those kw's are gained from the high-flow metal cat and not the header alone.
Still, the Toda exhaust manifold is a proven thing!
Yes, but if you were using the Toda, you would need to splice in an aftermarket cat onto the test pipe section anyway. :thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris_F
You can't use the stock cat with it even if you cut the flange and weld on the test pipe flange and O2 sensor mounting because it would be too long to fit on the header section.
Just saying, the power gain should be compared with other header + cat combinations. If people are quoted 14kw atw as a 'header only' figure then it is slightly inflated. It's still an impressive gain though.Quote:
Originally Posted by aaronng
An exhaust shop would be able to modify the standard cat to fit. For the money though most people will opt for an aftermarket cat anyway, but using the standard cat isn't impossible.
i was referring to this.Quote:
Originally Posted by docker
Oops, yeah, then he will be the first. :thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by Euro08Jaz
How much did you pay for the J's racing header?Quote:
Originally Posted by docker
No worries, I will do a before and after dyno then post the results. Probably won't be for a couple of weeks through as that's the earliest I could get my car booked in to do the work.
I paid $1225 delivered to my doorstep from JDMConcept.
^ Not a bad price at all. I wonder if you getting the hissing like with the Toda.
With the gains with racing headers, its looks like a very worthwhile mod. Im just not keen on increasing noise levels.
that would be great, thankyouQuote:
Originally Posted by docker
The price of the J's Racing Header still the same!? It was $12xx as well... howcome... I beg it will be an awesome header since J's racing always have high quality product!!
I dreamt that the toda headers arrived at my door today. LOL
anyway, glad someone here picked up the j'srcaing, saw it on ebay for quite some time now.!! can't wait to see the gains.
i think i will wait till our exchange rate improves before buying more parts. = [
wanted headers so bad but exchange rate is a dog
My local shop has installed 2 J's CL7 header on 2 CL9s. It is not really a direct fit and it took them 3 hrs banging on the subframe to get it fit. Just a heads up for what you should be expecting to install the J's header on a CL9. Good luck and please post a review on it.Quote:
Originally Posted by docker
That's odd, the CL7 header should fit the CL9 without needed to bang out the subframe. Usually it is the DC5 header that requires some CL9 banging.Quote:
Originally Posted by tsx604
could it be because of the 19.7mm deck height difference between the K24 and K20? :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by aaronng
that would mean the extractors would sit higher...
That's BS.You shouldn't have to pay $1200+ and then have to beat the shit out of the subframe to make the headers fit???:thumbdwn:
If that was true, then the Toda and Maxim headers would also have the same problem and needs the subframe to be banged out.Quote:
Originally Posted by EUR003act
doesn't sound good.....
and from akina's install he didn't need to bang anything.
unless on the CL7 the TODA/Maxim headers sit lower under the subframe?Quote:
Originally Posted by aaronng
Is Feels header good for cl9??
its the same as maxim works (made by maxim works) and is definitely one of the best on the market
Get under your car to measure! :):thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by EUR003act
Yeh maxim = feels. Thought you had maxim already lol...so it must be good! :pQuote:
Originally Posted by CL9R
Could it be because the J's Racing is once piece header and its a bit hard to find the right angle to fit it in?Quote:
Originally Posted by tsx604
It happened to me as well when we were fitting the Toda header to my car. Even the oil filter had to be removed to made it easier to fit in the right angle.
Kitbkk, just wondering, did you notice much improvement with the toda over your topspeed headers?Quote:
Originally Posted by kitbkk
I have the topspeed atm and might go with toda sometime next year. I heard that theres the hissing sound, is it annoying? :)
I am using feels. just wanna know if it good compair to others like toda :p
does other header like toda have that air sucking sound when reving? :confused:
yep! The gain was significant! How can I put it.. Even though I have heavy rims about 12kg per corner, Toda header alone can improve all rev range heaps over top speed or dc sports. The gain from toda header alone, IMO, is even greater than top speed + high flow cat.. definitely worth how much you spent:thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by snYpz
hissing wise, if your using top speed header, the hissing from toda is even louder...but in more aggressive way. you do not notice it at idle but WOT.