need advice/opinions on wat sound system/ brand to put in

Heya, i would jus like to get ppl's opinion as to what brand sound system to go with. The civic ek1 has the original tape deck and speakers and i want to upgrade it obviously. I'm heading towards pioneer but not sure yet. At the moment i don't want subs just basically a decent cd/mp3/dvd player and speakers both 6x9's for the back and another pair for the front. And would just like to know wats the highest watts i can go with without needing an amp or watever to support the speakers. I luv my base in my music so please let me know what u think. i dunno much about power etc so any advice is much appreciated :)

sigh...

budget??

don't have a budget anymore

thats not much in car audio...

id say divide the money like so:

1. $300headunit, $300splits, $3002chan amp, $100wiring. pro: theyll be of decent quality, con: no sub

OR

2. squeeze a headunit, splits, 4chan amp, sub, sub box & wiring all for 1 grand. pro: you'll get everything you want, con: hows the build & sound quality?? what quality?!

id suggest the first route, build your system in 2 stages & add the sub+subbox+(monobloc)amp when funds allow. at least you wont have a garbage system.

and with that budget id forget about getting rear speakers at all.

okies ye the first one sounds good. so i'd need an amp for sure? Also wat brands do u recommend? I dont really know much about the watts n that in regards to speakers, is there a limit also to that? sowi

its preferable you get an amp for speakers, if you dont you're just limiting your speakers potential. we'll talk about wattage after you've made a decision on what gear you wanna buy.

yes there is a limit, but im finishing work. ill get back to ya later, or someone else can help you out.

no worries, thanks for ur opinion though, it helps alot

sooo.. been lookin around at whats avaliable??

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Originally Posted by arverson

sooo.. been lookin around at whats avaliable??

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sorry for the late reply. yes i have been looking around. In regards to the budget that i put down, scrap that. I got a JVC KD AVX44 HU put in which looks sweet and cost me bout $800 lol but it was worth it. In regards to speakers, i'm heading towards Pioneer. I'll be looking at getting splits for the front, 6x9's to replace the stocks ones at the back and an amp. As much as i luv the bass, i probably won't get a sub at this stage, coz they take too much room in the boot. But was looking at the new subs from pioneer that are made for cars that dont have much room, so maybe them.

Get on msn dude, i'll talk to you there!

I thought of recomending you Brax, Mcintosh, Scanspeak/Vifa.... then I saw your budget...

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I thought of recomending you Brax, Mcintosh, Scanspeak/Vifa.... then I saw your budget...

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yes just ignore the budget. i din't realise how much things were and i guessed wrong so i don't have one anymore. i'm basically looking for a really good set up. I've already got the HU so now just looking at speaker set up. I like clarity and quality in my sound so yes i'm open to anything, not too pricey but get value for money. I've never heard those brands before, i'm guessing they're rare in aust?

if you want clarity, get Infinity or Boston Acoustics.

for bass or for the sub, get Cerwin Vega.

If you want a bang for the buck, get a 4 channel amp, 2 channel to power a set of comps for the front, and 2 channel bridge to power a sub. Forget about 6X9 as they sound shitty... you can re-use whatever speaker you have for your rears, and power those with your HU.

If your budget is not that much, you can grab those jaycar amp, speakers and sub. Get some proper car audio shop to make you a proper seal enclosure for you sub (according to its specs). 1 single 10" would do, but I personally prefer a 12".

The sub is not to play loud, but to provide the low frequency to complement the comp speakers.

why is 6x9 not necessary? actually i've been thinking of getting rid of the sub as it takes too much space and replace with 6x9 rears..

boston acoustic one fo the best speakers for sound quality

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why is 6x9 not necessary? actually i've been thinking of getting rid of the sub as it takes too much space and replace with 6x9 rears..

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yes i agree with u. As much as i luv my bass im not lookin at gettin a sub, not just yet anyway. I've seen pics of subs in the boot of the ek hatchback and it takes too much room. I use my car basically all the time and do use the boot.

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yes just ignore the budget. i din't realise how much things were and i guessed wrong so i don't have one anymore. i'm basically looking for a really good set up. I've already got the HU so now just looking at speaker set up. I like clarity and quality in my sound so yes i'm open to anything, not too pricey but get value for money. I've never heard those brands before, i'm guessing they're rare in aust?

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1 item alone from those brands could cost nearly the same as most ozhonda members cars lolz

we cant exactly ignore the budget, i can tell you've raised it but we still cant suggest or give advice on 'open to anything, not too pricey and get value for money'.

a rough figure would do (2g, 5g, 10g, 50g..)

Ok basically what i want is a good sound system. Nothing ridicuously expensive but one that gives value for money. I alredy got the HU so it's basically the speaker set up. So the budget id say is bout 2g to 3 g's as i would like good sound/clarity. If a certain brand costs a bit more i will build it in stages. I like my bass but don't want to get a sub as it take too much room in the boot. I want to replace the stock front and rear speakers and will obviously need an amp. With the rear speakers, i want them to replace where the stock speakers are now and want to avoid putting the speakers on the parcel shelf. I read in another thread that a cetain kenwood speaker fits into the original area. is this right? by the way thanks to all the ppl who have given me advice :)

so 3g max for a splits, amp/s & rears? you can get quality stuff with that amount.

splits: look into morel, dyns, bostons, mb, & a bunch of others

2 or 4 channel amp: ALOT on offer at this pricepoint. audison, boston, focal, alpine, tru tech.. too many brands to mention. see what's avaliable in a specialist near you

rears: personally i wouldnt worry or spend much on these. $200 max. doesnt really matter what brand. i guess you could just get a lower-line coaxil version of whatever splits you choose to have the same tonal characteristics thru-out the car. in the end, you can definitely do better than kenwood.

then id spend the rest on SD, wiring, etc.

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so 3g max for a splits, amp/s & rears? you can get quality stuff with that amount.

splits: look into morel, dyns, bostons, mb, & a bunch of others

2 or 4 channel amp: ALOT on offer at this pricepoint. audison, boston, focal, alpine, tru tech.. too many brands to mention. see what's avaliable in a specialist near you

rears: personally i wouldnt worry or spend much on these. $200 max. doesnt really matter what brand. i guess you could just get a lower-line coaxil version of whatever splits you choose to have the same tonal characteristics thru-out the car. in the end, you can definitely do better than kenwood.

then id spend the rest on SD, wiring, etc.

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thanks heaps for the info arverson. i do want an even sound thru out my car. I think i'll have to go to tonkins as they are the main ppl that know their sound. The brands u mentioned, i've never heard of as they must be above the kenwood, pioneer etc i'll look into these as a few other people have recommended them also.:thumbsup:

by tonal characteristics i didnt mean an even sound thru-out the car, but whatever :)

i know what u meant. i'm shyt at explaining myself sometimes :p

go see Angelo at Ang's Car Audio in klemzig hes been around many years and knows his stuff

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go see Angelo at Ang's Car Audio in klemzig hes been around many years and knows his stuff

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okies, thanks. are u from adel?

I would also recommend Focal splits for the front. They have a good range at various price points from about $250 up. (This may be way off, but I bought mine a while ago.) I think they are awesome splits and provide a really good sound. If you get the ones with the 6 inch woofer, it should tide you over until you can find space for a sub. (Nothing can replace a well set up sub though)

to be more specific to help ya out, with your budget of $1000ish for splits you're probably lookin to audition morel elates, dynaudio esotecs, boston acoustic pro60s, mb quart premiums, plus others.

bring a cd you're familiar with and have a listen to those splits with your tunes. happy auditioning :)

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I would also recommend Focal splits for the front. They have a good range at various price points from about $250 up. (This may be way off, but I bought mine a while ago.) I think they are awesome splits and provide a really good sound. If you get the ones with the 6 inch woofer, it should tide you over until you can find space for a sub. (Nothing can replace a well set up sub though)

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thanks for that, i've quite good things about focal so i'll check them out when i have time :)

considering you don't want subs these are the best 6x9s i've tried for a good balance in mid/trele + bass.

only one shop in australia i know sells it for a lot cheaper than the AU$350 i paid to get them imported from germany.

warning though... you need to drive each speaker with at least 100wrms from an amp as each speaker is rated at 350wrms (200wrms of which belongs tot he main big speaker)

i had these on a parcel shelf in my nissan NX.. had to create a new parcel out of 10mm mdf shelf as each one weighs 6kg.. the stocker sagged eventually. These will only produce good bass (as with any 6x9 setup on a parcel shelf) if your parcel shelf seals against the boot completely

These can be rebuilt and the mid/tweeter platform at the top can be unscrewed to turn the entire unit into subs.


Boschmann Audio Labs GIGA ALX-993

SPECIFICATIONS (each speaker)
* Frequency Response: 40 Hz ~ 23 Khz
* Sensitivity: 93db
* Peak Power Output: 1000 Watt
* Continuous Power Input: 350 Watt RMS
* True RMS Rating: 350 Watts
* Recommended Amplifier Power: 5-125 Watt Per Channel RMS
* Impedance: 4 ohm
* Mounting Depth: 96mm
* Mounting Holes C/C: 165mm x 117mm
* Magnet Diameter: 140mm

FEATURES
* Full Cast Aluminium Chassis for superior strength and efficient heat dissipation.
* Multi-layered kapton voice coil for high power handling
* Long-throw acoustic design
* Sensitivity-improved music reproduction
* Built-in crossovers

* Screw down terminals

http://www.boschmann.co.za/media/pro...993GigaMid.jpg
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make sure you get yourself some SD too or else spending that much on splits will be pointless..

get mtx speakers. best quality/dollar value imo.. cleanest sound would definently come from kicker amps.

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okies, thanks. are u from adel?

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no me from NSW, says so just under my nick :)