EK Gli engine conversion or EK4

Hey guys,
i just wanted to see your opinion on this before i set of to buy my very own car =]
Im thinking that i will me sticking with the Ek series since i like the shape and its newer.. but i cant decide if i want a gli or ek4

Reasons for gli (99-00)
-cheaper <6k
-can get facelifted model
-would get a conversion to a b18c7 whenever i have the money
- would be a very close replica of the ek9
-(bad) no vtec? and i dont think it has enough power? your opinion?

Reasons for ek4
-b16
-pricey (i would only get one under 10 k) very rare or very high KMs
-sunroof
-will also get a b18c7 once engine dies
-(bad) would have to do a facelift conversion

Im tossing between the two as both have their disadvantages and advantages ><

What your opinion? should i get the gli.. stick with the d16y4 for a while.. do cosmetics/handling and minor engine mods ? or save up a longer peiod of time and go with the ek4?


In the end i do want something looking like an ek9.. ish

if you're planning on putting a b18 in either of the cars, EK1 or EK4 then i guess the real question is how important are things to you like being able to say you drive an EK4, sunroof. pretty much consider things the EK4 has that the EK1 doesn't have (not including engine, since you're planning on swapping it anyway).

personally i'd just do this.

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should i get the gli.. stick with the d16y4 for a while.. do cosmetics/handling and minor engine mods

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If ur gonna do swap, why not just go ek1 an do b18c swap later on, few guys have gone this route, an because ur goin for ek1, u can get more mods done than say already buyin a stock ek4 with the extra money as opposed to buyin ek4, an any money says the ek1 would b better condition given the budget...
Dont do a type-r replica, do ur own style, ur own flavor, be a blk sheep lol :D

Vtec or no vtec, its still a honda, so dont kick urself if u dont get one, if ur not happy with the car, make it better :)

lol you say an EK4 is expensive but willing to put in a B18 when the B16 dies?

Yea but that's later on..I just want to get the possible car for me asap :)

Thanks man.. I think i might just do that... Now must find a good one for a low price lol

Go the GLi since if your planning on doing the conversion anyway as stated above you can use the price difference of the EK1 --> EK4 to do the cosmetics since if you got the EK4 you'd have to fork out more cash for the visuals aswell as getting the initial 10ish grand for the EK4 in the first place just seems more logical

I'm a sucker for the sunroof but you rather have a low km car with your own cosmetic mods done and have no sunroof as opposed to having a sunroof with previous-owner's chromes/stock look and rolling with 200,000+ kms then also having to save up for rebuild/new engine soon just my preference anyway :)

ek1, at the end of the day do you really need a sunroof? You obvisiouly want to go fast buying a b18c and the sunroof is just more weight and something that can leak.. EK4 does have better brakes but hey that will give you an excuse to upgrade the rears on the ek1...ek4 does have better seats but hey that wil give you an excuse to put recaros in the ek1..conversion will be more work/money though having d series and going to a b. Facelift looks better also imo

isn't it only cxi that has rear drums :s

go buy sangyz ek1 convert. will save u money in the long term

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Originally Posted by brandonek1

isn't it only cxi that has rear drums :s

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you are right...im only human lol

do what im doing and start from the bottom with an ek1 gli.
there way cheaper and in better nic with lower km's nearly every ek4 has almost 200,000 or more, well they are such nice cars to drive,but price wise settle yourself with a tidy ek1 you know ur gonna b18 it in future.

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Originally Posted by jks24

you are right...im only human lol

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haha aren't we all :D

Thanks for all replys guys ...high chance I'm going with the ek1 ...you guys have made it easier to decide and helped me out heaps . Ty :)

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Originally Posted by dxlmt

Thanks for all replys guys ...high chance I'm going with the ek1 ...you guys have made it easier to decide and helped me out heaps . Ty :)

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anytime...thats what the forums are for :)
Keep us updated with your progress

i had the same problem as u mate. i really wanted an ek4 but so hard to find 1 for decent price and low kms and i was really fussy bout the sunroof i personally thinks mad.. haha
i ended up findin a gli with a b18 in it for less then what most ek4s are going for. i reckon you should take ur time look around for an ek4 because the interior is nicer, you also have sunroof and vtec. instead of saving up for an engine just save up for a facelift and build that car (Y)

also engine conversions and findin a decent motor is alot of money!! lolz goodluck with everything mate ek ftw

Getting a ek1 (99-00) cxi you will eventually do the following: brake upgrade to ek4 or dc2r, power windows, cluster, mirrors depending on your taste. lip kit etc
ek1 gli (99-00) - most you will do is engine than upgrade brakes than lips etc

Ek4 I'm sure you mention you will do engine than facelift etc, brakes and lip kit.

It all comes down to your budget.

i tell you now. be ready to fork out alot of money :p and abit of advice. stay away from replica

Go with a Facelift EK1 GLi

Car = 6k
Sunroof = 1k
B18c = 5k

= 12k~ total and equivalent to a EK4 and even more

one thing that plays on my mind, everyone says engine conversions cost like 5k, fair enough, but when talking about a legit engine swap, with certificate etc etc, how much is the total really? cause my bet is that, its gonna be more like 15k all up

Reason being, few of the guys on here have done the swap, an got defected = no more roady cause the cert was too $$$ or other reason i dunno lol

Dont quote me but in NSW i dont think you need to get certificates as long as the engine displacement isnt more than 15% bigger from stock engine. You just need to notify RTA of the engine change.

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Originally Posted by deezy

i had the same problem as u mate. i really wanted an ek4 but so hard to find 1 for decent price and low kms and i was really fussy bout the sunroof i personally thinks mad.. haha
i ended up findin a gli with a b18 in it for less then what most ek4s are going for. i reckon you should take ur time look around for an ek4 because the interior is nicer, you also have sunroof and vtec. instead of saving up for an engine just save up for a facelift and build that car (Y)

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Hopeflly by the time i can afford to buy one, a nice one pops up =]